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Title: DSG and Snow
Post by: rsreid2000 on December 23, 2010, 09:47:54 am
Been laid up for the last week because of the snow, but tomorrow I have to go out.
I was wondering how people with DSG were getting on in the snow. This will be my first drive in snow/ice conditions in an "automatic".
Any tips/advice would be welcomed.
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: markymark on December 23, 2010, 09:50:49 am
I too will be breaking my DSG/snow virginity shortly! :scared:
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: tony_danza on December 23, 2010, 09:53:19 am
Dead easy, just keep it in drive and slowly take your foot off the brake with no throttle. Once it starts creeping, gently give it more. I had no issues last year, even on PS2s and the ungritted country lanes around my house.

If you get stuck, ESP/traction off helps. Reversing up hills can be easier if you're in real schtuk. A quick left foot dab of the brake will stop a single spinning wheel, transfers power to the other briefly and the resulting jolt can bounce you free.
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on December 23, 2010, 09:59:31 am
As Mike says, DSG is probably easier to drive on snow than manual. The creep definately helps when moving off as you very very rarely get any wheel spin..
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: Richn83 on December 23, 2010, 10:05:53 am
Its all been said above but I have found the DSG very very easy to drive in the snow and ice always perfectly smooth clutch control and very early gear shifts up to a higher gear in D make for easy going on the ice and creep is perfect for moving away  :driver:
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: coolhandluke on December 23, 2010, 10:12:07 am
I got well stuck the other nite & none of the above options helped and ended up having to get a friend to pull me free with his Discovery  :ashamed:
One thing i did find out is that the screw in towing eye has a left hand thread,what would be the reason for that? :confused:
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: markymark on December 23, 2010, 10:14:26 am
Thanks for the words of wisdom guy, certainly put my mind at rest! :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: vRS Carl on December 23, 2010, 10:14:50 am
Ive had no problems with DSG. Definitely easier than a manual.

One thing i did find out is that the screw in towing eye has a left hand thread,what would be the reason for that? :confused:

Harder for it to work loose apparently :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: QD MBE on December 23, 2010, 10:17:06 am
Feet up and steer - does just nice! :driver: :driver:
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: amr_rm on December 23, 2010, 10:17:33 am
Ive had no problems with DSG. Definitely easier than a manual.

One thing i did find out is that the screw in towing eye has a left hand thread,what would be the reason for that? :confused:

Harder for it to work loose apparently :happy2:


True

the load pulling on the eye, will cause the towing eye to want to turn in, instead of out so staying tight all of the time

Suprizing how tight one will get if pulling or being towed for a long distance
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: chowgar on December 23, 2010, 10:21:25 am
I found that with no pressure on the gas it pulled away so easy on the snow and ice were as most manuals on our toad have been spinning all over the show... Told one young lad in a fiat the other day to pull away in 2nd as he was wheel spinning it all over the show... He just looked at me daft...
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: S2 Ant on December 23, 2010, 10:24:05 am
Another DSG virgin here and its been nice and easy getting around anywhere, DSG in conjunction with the ESP on and ive not got stuck yet, its been perfect.
As said, just having no feet on the pedals to get things moving then gently applying the throttle and away you go, even when going thru deep stuff its been great
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: rsreid2000 on December 23, 2010, 10:25:18 am
Starting to feel a lot better about my drive tomorrow.
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: rich83 on December 23, 2010, 10:27:38 am
Ive had no problems with DSG. Definitely easier than a manual.

One thing i did find out is that the screw in towing eye has a left hand thread,what would be the reason for that? :confused:

Harder for it to work loose apparently :happy2:


True

the load pulling on the eye, will cause the towing eye to want to turn in, instead of out so staying tight all of the time

Suprizing how tight one will get if pulling or being towed for a long distance

Just looked this up.... and its to do with the way that the rope is bound.
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: mo on December 23, 2010, 10:29:15 am
As said put car into D and let it pull itself away. But on side roads or any icy surfaces where you may need to crawl along in 1st gear just push your gear selecter into manual mode and when your speed gets slow enough it will go into 1st gear.As far as ive seen in D it wont go lower than 2nd gear when slowing down or crawling.
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: Richn83 on December 23, 2010, 10:33:47 am
As said put car into D and let it pull itself away. But on side roads or any icy surfaces where you may need to crawl along in 1st gear just push your gear selecter into manual mode and when your speed gets slow enough it will go into 1st gear.As far as ive seen in D it wont go lower than 2nd gear when slowing down or crawling.

If the engine is prepared to be in second I would leave it there as you always want to be in the highest gear possible to reduce chances of wheel spin, just a personal opinion though. were you using first for a particular reason?

Interesting Rich so they thread the eye the other way to the way they weave the rope so the unwinding rope fibres tighten the tow eye under strain.  :congrats:
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: rich83 on December 23, 2010, 10:40:03 am
Exactly!! Clever eh?  :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: mo on December 23, 2010, 11:34:44 am
As said put car into D and let it pull itself away. But on side roads or any icy surfaces where you may need to crawl along in 1st gear just push your gear selecter into manual mode and when your speed gets slow enough it will go into 1st gear.As far as ive seen in D it wont go lower than 2nd gear when slowing down or crawling.

If the engine is prepared to be in second I would leave it there as you always want to be in the highest gear possible to reduce chances of wheel spin, just a personal opinion though. were you using first for a particular reason?


Forgot to mention it was an icy slope i was driving down with a bend at the bottom, 2nd gear was a too fast for my liking and more chance of having to use the brakes which i was doing my best to avoid. :driver:
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: rich83 on December 23, 2010, 11:38:34 am
I found that using M mode going down hill, you can select the best gear to brake the car with the engine!
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: Richn83 on December 23, 2010, 11:47:25 am
As said put car into D and let it pull itself away. But on side roads or any icy surfaces where you may need to crawl along in 1st gear just push your gear selecter into manual mode and when your speed gets slow enough it will go into 1st gear.As far as ive seen in D it wont go lower than 2nd gear when slowing down or crawling.

If the engine is prepared to be in second I would leave it there as you always want to be in the highest gear possible to reduce chances of wheel spin, just a personal opinion though. were you using first for a particular reason?


Forgot to mention it was an icy slope i was driving down with a bend at the bottom, 2nd gear was a too fast for my liking and more chance of having to use the brakes which i was doing my best to avoid. :driver:

In that case completely agree with you then, use M and first  :grin:  as discussed in another thread with RR M mode and engine braking down hill is the way forward!
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: stumk5 on December 23, 2010, 04:28:43 pm
ESP off for me, definately if going up hill as you may get stuck due to the ESP reducing power to the wheels.  Other than that DSG has been spot on.
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: rsreid2000 on December 24, 2010, 02:10:23 pm
Well, been out today for the first time and the car was brilliant and the conditions are terrible.
Far better than any manual I have driven.
Well pleased.
Title: Re: DSG and Snow
Post by: LouCyffer on December 26, 2010, 08:34:49 am
Mo, that's true, but you can, when travelling very slowly, override on the paddle shift down to first gear.

DSG in snow is great. Add winter tyres and it's nigh on unstoppable :grin: