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Title: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: ruffrydaz on January 04, 2011, 11:16:54 pm
 VW dealer just changed my cambelt today me and my friend realised it doesnt feel the same. At idle, You can feel the seat moving every few seconds like the engines shaking. Seems to be fine when driven. It was definately no like this before they changed it. I cant believe they did it wrong, It was done by Volkswagen leeds.

Any ideas greatly appreciated before i phone them tomorrow

i have a gt tdi 2.0 mk5 btw

 
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: telewebby on January 04, 2011, 11:21:47 pm
my jetta does the same as this at idle and so did my mates golf, once you put a few revs on does it go?

alex
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: ruffrydaz on January 04, 2011, 11:26:43 pm
Yeah but when i took it to vw before the cambelt this morning it didnt do it at all
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: rich83 on January 04, 2011, 11:28:18 pm
Could be the cambelt torsion value!


Do you have VCDS?
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: ruffrydaz on January 04, 2011, 11:30:56 pm
Dont wanna act stupid but whats that? vagcom?
if so no i dont.
Shall i mention the torsion value when i go tomorrow rich?
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: ruffrydaz on January 04, 2011, 11:38:27 pm
I cant believe volkwagen can change th cambelt wrong.
Its really annoyed me, i payed extra to go to vw for no headache and i got the opposite!!
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: rich83 on January 04, 2011, 11:39:42 pm
Yeah VCDS is vagcom!

You can log the torsion value... it should be as close to ZERO as possible!
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: ruffrydaz on January 05, 2011, 12:00:40 am
How can vw make such a big mistake????
Do you think i should mention that to them?
It cant be anything else can it?
thanks for the replies btw
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: rich83 on January 05, 2011, 12:07:36 am
Pass..... its worth a shot tho!
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: ruffrydaz on January 05, 2011, 12:08:36 am
Yeah thanks ill let you know how it goes tomorrow
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: ruffrydaz on January 06, 2011, 12:04:52 am
Dealer said its not them, its due to the emissions light but thats always been there and it only happened after the cambelt change.
Its only slight vibration at idle but it wasnt there nonetheless
They havnt heard of the torsion adjustment
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: rich83 on January 06, 2011, 12:06:46 am
Where are you based? Try and find someone local with Vagcom who can check this value for you!

Some dealers are complete noobs!
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: ruffrydaz on January 06, 2011, 12:07:33 am
Tell me about it. just posted in the vagcom forum. im from leeds
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: rich83 on January 06, 2011, 12:12:30 am
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/273493/1940259.aspx

Check out that thread!
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: ruffrydaz on January 06, 2011, 12:14:19 am
i checked it. Could this happen with a new cambelt installtion. I will show them it tomorrow thanks
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: bacillus on January 06, 2011, 03:49:17 pm
I believe that they loosen/remove the engine mount when changing the cam belt so it could be feasible that the mount bolts have not been torqued to the correct value.
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: KRL on January 06, 2011, 03:51:39 pm
I believe that they loosen/remove the engine mount when changing the cam belt so it could be feasible that the mount bolts have not been torqued to the correct value.

Good point, I was wondering if the engine mounts got played with as part of this.
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: MattPoss on January 06, 2011, 06:05:41 pm
Could be the dual mass flywheel on it's way out causing the engine to shake and could just be a complete coincidence?!

Matt
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: ruffrydaz on January 07, 2011, 12:12:19 am
They checked the torsion value and it seems to be exactly zero so the timing belt is fine.
Could be a mount or dmf but its very very unoticable and comes sometimes and ive read alot of people with tdis have it.
It seems better
Thanks for the reply guys guys!!
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: mortygttdi on January 07, 2011, 04:26:16 am
unfortunately it is a trait of the tdi's and it can be sorted to an extent but its always there...I had the feeling like it was miss firing but when I put the bluefin map onto it it went away but I still get the odd little shake now and again.

The EGR valve at the front of the engine is one of the culprits it has a flap inside and after time if not cleaned will clog up and cause starting and running problems, also the threads in the manifold at the top of the EGR valve are very fragile and once threaded are a pain cos the EGR will be the weak spot for pressure leaks.

The only other thing ive noticed with these engines is the lower coolant pipe can break down due to oil and road grime and then the coolant loss starts.

Darren
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: daboy3000 on January 07, 2011, 09:05:12 pm
I am having the same problem, only had the car a few weeks so hoping to get it fixed under the warranty. I have a 2.0 gt tdi and it has had the cambelt changed by vw.
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: dnLcal on January 07, 2011, 10:24:43 pm
Could be the dual mass flywheel on it's way out causing the engine to shake and could just be a complete coincidence?!

Matt
This shake would get worse with acceleration but almost disapear when the clutch is depressed. so i doubt this is the problem.

Sounds like cam timing to me.

Cal
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: ruffrydaz on January 07, 2011, 11:06:33 pm
Well it goes straight away when moving..
I only feel it on idle
The timing torsion value is exactly zero..
I have the coolant temp sensor and egr valve error. It must be caused from that.
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: PDT on January 07, 2011, 11:36:14 pm
Find someone with vagcom, raise the idle by 80-100 rpm and the problem usually dissapears. Ive seen this problem many times and found this is the easiest way to solve it.
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: PDT on January 07, 2011, 11:38:45 pm
Could be the dual mass flywheel on it's way out causing the engine to shake and could just be a complete coincidence?!

Matt
This shake would get worse with acceleration but almost disapear when the clutch is depressed. so i doubt this is the problem.

Sounds like cam timing to me.

Cal



A faulty dual mass flywheel is more likely to show symptoms (juddering) under acceleration/load and will dissapear with the clutch presses
Title: Re: Engine shaking seat when idle after CAMBELT CHANGE BY VW
Post by: ruffrydaz on January 07, 2011, 11:39:38 pm
Thanks guys