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Title: I have just hit a pothole - Now with photos of the Monster !
Post by: Britishlion on January 09, 2011, 06:32:15 pm
Hi All

Just need a bit of advice, driving home tonight I was going along at 30 and hit an almighty pothole ! It must have been recent as I drive the road everyday, after it happened I turned around and had a proper look and it is enormous, it was pitch black so going back tomorrow morning to take photographs.

But, my question is, if it has caused damage (which by the sound of it, it has) is the claim against the highways agency, as surely that is what our road tax is partly towards ? Or is it just tough luck ?

Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.


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Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: bacillus on January 09, 2011, 07:23:56 pm
http://www.potholes.co.uk
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: Saint Steve on January 09, 2011, 07:36:49 pm
Claim off the council.
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: simonp on January 09, 2011, 08:15:06 pm
Ditto. Get pics asap, as they'll fill it in as soon as someone complains. Ask for a claim form and you send that back with a receipt for any work you had done  (they only pay you back afterwards on proof of repairs).
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: Britishlion on January 09, 2011, 10:05:55 pm
Thanks everyone ! Getting photos tomorrow morning at 0700 so they should not have time


 :happy2:
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: simonp on January 09, 2011, 10:35:05 pm
Take something to put in the hole for scale.
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: v2brett on January 09, 2011, 11:03:20 pm
as above mate, take some pics with a measure to show depth/width.     the roads round my way are shockingly bad at the min, its like driving on the moon with all the craters
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: ub7rm on January 10, 2011, 10:27:18 am
I think if its that new, and no one has reported it you will be out of luck as they will say they didn't know about it and so didn't have the chance to fix it.  Which is sensible enough.  I think there is a reasonable timeframe allowed for them to fix it.

You should NOT consider reporting it and adjusting your claim to suit ...  :innocent:
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: Nick S on January 10, 2011, 11:37:54 am
Don't know if it was reported already or not but last year I hit a pothole and damaged 2 tyres.  Notified the council they sent a claim form and I had a full reimbursement within 6 weeks
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: simonp on January 10, 2011, 12:58:46 pm
I think if its that new, and no one has reported it you will be out of luck as they will say they didn't know about it and so didn't have the chance to fix it.  Which is sensible enough.  I think there is a reasonable timeframe allowed for them to fix it.

You should NOT consider reporting it and adjusting your claim to suit ...  :innocent:

What a load of tosh! How can you put a claim in without telling them about the hole?!
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: ub7rm on January 10, 2011, 02:41:38 pm
I think if its that new, and no one has reported it you will be out of luck as they will say they didn't know about it and so didn't have the chance to fix it.  Which is sensible enough.  I think there is a reasonable timeframe allowed for them to fix it.

You should NOT consider reporting it and adjusting your claim to suit ...  :innocent:

What a load of tosh! How can you put a claim in without telling them about the hole?!

I think you have missed my point ...

If the pothole has not been reported, the council or whoever will have a defense in court that they could not have reasonably know about the hole hence why they didn't fix it.  This defence might be weakened if it can be proved the road had not been inspected for a long time.

To ensure this is not a suitable defence, an enterprising claimant might ensure that the pothole was reported prior to making his claim.  Obviously a period of time should elapse between reportage and submitting claim.  This would of course be fradulant and why you shouldn't do it.

Comprendo?
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: simonp on January 10, 2011, 03:04:19 pm
No. You still make no sense. The hole wouldn't be there if they did know about it, as they would've mended it! Not knowing about something isn't a defence!
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: vRS Carl on January 10, 2011, 03:15:17 pm
What he is saying is that if Stefan wanted to he could:

Report the hole Today. Then claim for his car on Friday. However as has been pointed out by both of you:

1 - That would be fraudulent.
2 - The hole would get filled in potentially leaving Stefan without a claim.

You both make a vaild point but can we keep it from turning into an argument  :drinking:


Stefan,

If i were you i would just follow the course of action you are i.e take pics, report the hole and make a claim. :happy2:
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: simonp on January 10, 2011, 03:32:36 pm
No argument, boss. The OP asked for advice and I'm merely pointing out that some of it is incorrect.  :happy2:

I've claimed off councils before, you get your evidence first (photos), report the hole, ask for a claim form at the same time and then get your car looked at. Any damage you send off the form with receipts for the work done, no damage form can go in the bin.
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: Britishlion on January 10, 2011, 05:51:33 pm
Thanks everyone for the replies, got photographs today ! see below if your interested


(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh4.ggpht.com%2F_xu65o13o8jw%2FTStGsj8muTI%2FAAAAAAAAALs%2Fpg7YfAOAmjw%2Fs512%2FIMG_0090.JPG&hash=f70b3e0b4f5f32a095c46ddcee630166c7bb9f53)


(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh6.ggpht.com%2F_xu65o13o8jw%2FTStGVMm2QaI%2FAAAAAAAAALk%2FZ3KO-iftCKw%2Fs512%2FIMG_0096.JPG&hash=124be38aa8e751c14eb5e632191f5d5ed477525a)


So what do reckon ?
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Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - Now with photos of the Monster !
Post by: VC on January 10, 2011, 05:57:15 pm
you need to demonstrate depth too dude... back you go...  :P

camera down low, tape measure distance from road surface to base of hole, photo  :happy2:
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - Now with photos of the Monster !
Post by: JPC on January 10, 2011, 06:00:23 pm
i was just about to say, your going to need evidence of the depth! lol
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - Now with photos of the Monster !
Post by: Britishlion on January 10, 2011, 06:01:23 pm


Bugg*r !

back to the scene of crime tomorrow then !

I did not get one of those !



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Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - advice anyone ?
Post by: ub7rm on January 10, 2011, 06:11:02 pm
..... Not knowing about something isn't a defence!

It is.  If the council can prove in court that they have taken reasonable means to maintain the road such as periodic inspection as deemed appropriate for the type of road / traffic etc and no one has reported the pothole then what can you realistically expect them to do about it?  Is it reasonable that they should have a crystal ball?

With the scheme I wouldn't advocate there is the danger that the council is efficient and fill it in quickly thereby denying you the ability to claim.  Round these parts they seem to take ages to sort them out, and I know they have been reported, but I guess its down to how busy the road is / individual councils etc.

Its unfair because if the road fell apart that quickly then the chances are it in a pretty bad state to begin with, but that doesn't really help the claim unless it was extreme.
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - Now with photos of the Monster !
Post by: Oli on January 10, 2011, 06:43:34 pm
West sussex say its got to be deeper than 10cm for a claim, and yours doesnt look that deep.

Good luck
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - Now with photos of the Monster !
Post by: Rich on January 10, 2011, 10:49:34 pm
 :signLOL:
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - Now with photos of the Monster !
Post by: mortygttdi on January 11, 2011, 06:29:19 pm
The public highways are nothing to do with the local councils and if you contact them they will put you in touch with the Highways Agency, 

They usually sort the roads out quite quick now to get out of any claims,  basically if the road is fixed in a reasonable time frame they are not liable for and claims?

Darren
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - Now with photos of the Monster !
Post by: S2 Ant on January 12, 2011, 10:46:16 am
Thats actually not that big by the looks of it, i sometimes wonder if i've woken up on the moon sometimes with the size of some of the craters around here! Its a wonder i've not been pulled over on suspicion of drink driving as i often weave all over the lane to avoid the holes!
That said, i hope you get somethign sorted mate, nothing worse than the roads ruining your wheels given the cost of keeping the car on the road these days!
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - Now with photos of the Monster !
Post by: GTIjames on January 12, 2011, 11:59:53 am
yeah looks pretty tame that hole to me, I would consider it a normal road in london  :confused:

have you ascertained if it has done any damage yet? as if it hasn't I wouldn't waste my time

Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - Now with photos of the Monster !
Post by: rich83 on January 12, 2011, 12:05:58 pm
yeah looks pretty tame that hole to me, I would consider it a normal road in london  :confused:

have you ascertained if it has done any damage yet? as if it hasn't I wouldn't waste my time



So true.... theres a road near me that has about 20 patches just like the one you have photographed
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - Now with photos of the Monster !
Post by: Hendo on January 13, 2011, 09:43:13 am
That's no a pothole that's just a little bump in the road!!  You should see the one's I have to dodge on a daily basis!
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - Now with photos of the Monster !
Post by: joesgti on January 13, 2011, 11:28:39 am
i need two new tyers, hummmmmmm, theres loads of pot holes round here  :innocent:
Title: Re: I have just hit a pothole - Now with photos of the Tame Monster !
Post by: Britishlion on January 13, 2011, 12:37:33 pm


Sorry my hole is not as big as yours  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:


The problem with it, as hopefully the photo shows is there is a sheer edge where i hit it !


car in the garage at the moment seems it has knocked out the alignment and bent a wheel ? but find out for definite later