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All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: liver on January 12, 2011, 01:27:21 pm

Title: Stage 2, your intakes
Post by: liver on January 12, 2011, 01:27:21 pm

I've currently got Stage 1 bluefin and I'm looking at going stage 2 on my car, i have a 3" milltek non res cat back and im getting a 3" sports cat made too to suite

the only other thing required for stage too is an uprated intake, i currently have a carbonio with pipercross panel filter,

will this be suffice for stage 2 or will i have to upgrade this also to move up?

any info would be appreciated and i would like to know what stage 2 people are running intake wise
Title: Re: Stage 2, your intakes
Post by: NB07 on January 12, 2011, 01:57:25 pm
you can use your carbonio but wont see much gains. i would get a proper CAI if i was you tbut you may need a HPFP as you can occasionally get fuel cuts with full turbo back and intake. the slippery slope!  :signLOL:

as covered many times before best intakes generally speaking.. ITG Maxogen, Evoms & Forge Twintake, there are other cheaper ones that some people rate, personally i love my ITG, sounds good and has proven the highest gains :happy2:
Title: Re: Stage 2, your intakes
Post by: NB07 on January 12, 2011, 02:01:56 pm
actually its all said 2 threads down! have a go on the search function dude  :happy2:
Title: Re: Stage 2, your intakes
Post by: liver on January 12, 2011, 02:04:59 pm
cheers for the info

i was more specific rather than just intakes was wanting to know if i could use the carbonio really for stage 2

thought it was stage 2+ when the fuel pump was needed etc

cheers for the info
Title: Re: Stage 2, your intakes
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 12, 2011, 04:38:10 pm
YOU DO NOT NEED AN INTAKE FOR STAGE 2 OR STAGE 2+.  The only thing required is a performance downpipe for stage 2, (stage 2+ is the downpipe and HPFP, everything else is a nice to have for more gains)
The stock intake will be fine. the carbonio ever so slightly better.

 You will run slightly less peak power as a result if you keep your carbonio as they are about as much use as a chocolate fireguard.  With an good air intake you could maybe add 10-15Hp to your stage 2.

Reference the HPFP, with REVO i would agree @ stage 2 sometimes its needed.  Bluefin is much more conservative and doesnt request the fuel pressure as much as REVO.

FWIW my stage 1 was good, i found the stage 2 was really poor(very on/off with its delivery) with a huge drop in power of about 35hp at 5krpm.  When i fitted stage 2+ it solved all the issues.  (all ill say is dont expect to make huge figures with the bluefin, its not in the same league as the others, however it is a lot cheaper and more conserved, so better for longevity, so they are all reasons to stay i guess)

Any Qs mate, just ask.  I had it @ stage 1, 2, 2+ and then swapped to another tuner where i went from stage 2+, 2, 1 then back to stock before selling.  So i have a good base for comparison. :happy2:
Title: Re: Stage 2, your intakes
Post by: ni-coilovers.co.uk on January 13, 2011, 01:31:33 am
I have the Neuspeed P-Flo on mine.  Waiting to fit downpipe then get it mapped.  Cambelt kit is going on first tho as it hasnt been changed yet June 06 car 55k miles!!
Title: Re: Stage 2, your intakes
Post by: RagingKileak on January 14, 2011, 09:06:36 am
I'm running Revo Stage 2+ on my car (Hurdy's old ED30) and I use an ITG Maxogen filter.

Car made just over 370 bhp on conservative rollers (so should make the usual 380 ish elsewhere I guess) of which I dunno how much can be attributed to the ITG.

Before the Stage 2+, the car made 330 bhp with only the ITG and a Stage 1 Revo map (optimized using SPS+) which I thought was stronger than I could have hoped for!

Matt
Title: Re: Stage 2, your intakes
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 14, 2011, 01:57:25 pm
I'm running Revo Stage 2+ on my car (Hurdy's old ED30) and I use an ITG Maxogen filter.

Car made just over 370 bhp on conservative rollers (so should make the usual 380 ish elsewhere I guess) of which I dunno how much can be attributed to the ITG.

Before the Stage 2+, the car made 330 bhp with only the ITG and a Stage 1 Revo map (optimized using SPS+) which I thought was stronger than I could have hoped for!

Matt

hurdy when he had it made about 350hp on conservative rollers, and about 370hp on generous rollers.  which rollers were these?
Title: Re: Stage 2, your intakes
Post by: RagingKileak on January 16, 2011, 08:48:58 pm
I'm running Revo Stage 2+ on my car (Hurdy's old ED30) and I use an ITG Maxogen filter.

Car made just over 370 bhp on conservative rollers (so should make the usual 380 ish elsewhere I guess) of which I dunno how much can be attributed to the ITG.

Before the Stage 2+, the car made 330 bhp with only the ITG and a Stage 1 Revo map (optimized using SPS+) which I thought was stronger than I could have hoped for!

Matt

hurdy when he had it made about 350hp on conservative rollers, and about 370hp on generous rollers.  which rollers were these?

Same ones ;)

Matt