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Title: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: joesgti on January 12, 2011, 02:10:00 pm
Vote for your fave tyre's  :smiley:

Personally i think the Avon ZZ3's perform awesome in all conditions and are a very decent price. Almost half the price of some others up there, and they last a long time, so thats where my vote goes.
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: liver on January 12, 2011, 02:15:54 pm
pilot sport 3's for me
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: joesgti on January 12, 2011, 02:19:56 pm
pilot sport 3's for me

how much are they??
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: liver on January 12, 2011, 02:24:20 pm
paid £140 a corner from costco
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: S2 Ant on January 12, 2011, 02:26:09 pm
I liked my Conti 3's but have Vreds now, but havent had them on long enough in non icy weather to get a proper feel for them.
As for the Avons, they make v good bike tyres as thats what i use on the Ninja, no reason why they shouldnt make good road car tyres too IMO!
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: the bruce on January 12, 2011, 02:27:26 pm
Next will be Michelin Pilot SuperSport (not PS2 or PS3) for street and Dunlop Direzza 03G for track.

 :driver:

Think both are best money can buy for its application.
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: tony_danza on January 12, 2011, 02:36:53 pm
I would absolutely agree with what Bruce has said, I'd be waiting on the new Supersports.

Shame DZ03Gs are so expensive over here and my favourite, Pilot Sport Cups are near impossible to come by.
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: gti265 on January 12, 2011, 02:39:33 pm
i had conti 3's and thought they where crap, have vreds on now and there great :)
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: Kiwi on January 12, 2011, 02:41:25 pm
Loving my Pilot Sport 3's, just amazing grip in the wet.

Before the PS3's were fitted in Dec 2010, I had a set of each below

Yoko's
Goodyear G3's

By far the PS3's are miles better,oohhh and to boot the road noise has drop alot also, by running these.
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: Hurdy on January 12, 2011, 02:44:05 pm
No Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta's Joe?  or was it that you left it out until someone wrote it out for you :P
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: joesgti on January 12, 2011, 03:00:39 pm
 :P
il add now!! i couldnt spell it!  :ashamed: :signLOL:
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: danishmkvgti on January 12, 2011, 03:42:33 pm
Of tried rubber on the mk 5 I would say the Toyo R1R  :driver: , not on the list yet Joe  :P
But if not overpriced like the rest of the Michelins i would try their supersports.
Next tyre to be fitted for road use is the Toyo T1 Sport (Not the T1S) in 19"
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: Poppa Dom on January 12, 2011, 04:20:19 pm
Pilot PS2's for me over the 3's definitely. With regard to the super sports they will be coming in the following sizes:

225/35 ZR19 88Y XL
225/40 ZR19 93Y XL
225/45 ZR18 95Y XL
235/30 ZR22
235/35 ZR19 91Y XL (Front: Porsche Turbo S)
235/35 ZR20 92Y XL K1 (Front: Ferrari 458 Italia)
245/35 ZR19 93Y XL
245/40 ZR18 97Y XL
245/45 ZR18 100Y XL
255/30 ZR21 93Y XL
255/35 ZR19 96Y XL
255/35 ZR20
265/30 ZR19 93Y XL
265/30 ZR21
265/30 ZR22
265/35 ZR19 98Y (Front: Koenigsegg Agera)
265/40 ZR18 101Y XL
275/30 ZR19 96Y XL
275/30 ZR20
275/35 ZR19 100Y XL
275/35 ZR20
285/25 ZR20 93Y XL
285/30 ZR20
285/30 ZR20 99Y XL K1 (Front: Ferrari 599 GTO)
295/25 ZR20 95Y XL
295/25 ZR21 96Y XL
295/30 ZR19 100Y XL
295/30 ZR21
295/35 ZR20 101Y K1 (Rear: Ferrari 458 Italia)
305/30 ZR19 102Y XL (Rear: Porsche Turbo S)
315/35 ZR20 110Y XL K1 (Rear: Ferrari 599 GTO)
345/30 ZR20 106Y (Rear: Koenigsegg Agera)


Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: rich83 on January 12, 2011, 04:25:25 pm
Im surprised there not doing 225 40 18
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: Poppa Dom on January 12, 2011, 04:26:10 pm
Me too :surprised:
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: GTIjames on January 12, 2011, 04:35:34 pm
im with dom - pilot sports 2 for me both on my old golf and now on the cayman :happy2:

they don't even make the ps3 in porsche fitment (n0/1/2/3/4)

supersports look good but im sure it will be a wait before they are available on our shores and having just spent £1k on 4 new ps2's i dread too think how much they will cost..
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: vRS Carl on January 12, 2011, 04:37:33 pm
PS3 for me.

Gutted they aren't doing SS in 17's  :sad1:

Next car will just have to have 18's :party:
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 12, 2011, 04:45:37 pm
On my last  vRS

Michelin pilot exaltos-great mileage, low road noise, good dry grip, poor wet grip.

Toyo T1R-Worst tyre ive ever used.  took ages to scrub in and provide grip, up until then it was an understeer nightmare.  I actually thought there must be an issue with my car @ first.

Vredestein Sessantas.  yearsahead of the toyo's in terms of grip, which after only a 92 mile wear in ride to the ring were already giving more grip than the toyo's.

Best tyre ive ever had on a car was the michelin PS2.  excellent @ everything.  However they were alot more expensive then the vredesteins, and i wouldnt have put the vreds that much behind in performance
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: Hurdy on January 12, 2011, 06:30:14 pm
Best tyre for me is the R888 - for summer ONLY.

The R1R's are better in wet weather and 95% of the grip of the R888's in the dry - again a summer tyre only!

I found that the wear on the R1R's was very good and would easily last 6k miles with just road use and the odd 1/4 mile run.

Pricey though :smiley:
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: rich83 on January 12, 2011, 06:33:04 pm
Best tyre for me is the R888 - for summer ONLY.

The R1R's are better in wet weather and 95% of the grip of the R888's in the dry - again a summer tyre only!

I found that the wear on the R1R's was very good and would easily last 6k miles with just road use and the odd 1/4 mile run.

Pricey though :smiley:

Just a bit... 190 odd a corner!  :scared:
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: Thor on January 12, 2011, 07:12:32 pm
PS2 for me, not cheap but you can find them for a good price if you shop around.

Have to say i'm very impressed with the Vredestein Wintrac Xtreme tyres were running on the Mk6, the grip in the wet and ride quality is excellent, very little road noise from them, oh yeah and the braking performance in the snow has to be experienced to be believed :happy2:.  Slight reduction in fuel ecomony due i imagine to the open tread pattern but you can't have everything.
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: Hurdy on January 12, 2011, 07:33:43 pm


Yeah I know - I've had both R888's and R1R's and they are pricey - but worth it :happy2:

2 sets of  TDPR 1.2 alloys to put them on was a bonus too  :jumpmove:

I'm sure they designed the boot to fit 4 alloys and tyres in.
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: danishmkvgti on January 12, 2011, 08:10:29 pm
PS2 for me, not cheap but you can find them for a good price if you shop around.

Have to say i'm very impressed with the Vredestein Wintrac Xtreme tyres were running on the Mk6, the grip in the wet and ride quality is excellent, very little road noise from them, oh yeah and the braking performance in the snow has to be experienced to be believed :happy2:.  Slight reduction in fuel ecomony due i imagine to the open tread pattern but you can't have everything.

X2 on the wintrac extreme, they struggle a bit with grip when accelerating and cornering but brake and you won't believe how good they are on snow and ice.
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: Andy on January 12, 2011, 08:14:07 pm
found the avon zz5 very good..Next time round i will try the ps3
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: SteveS on January 18, 2011, 08:24:28 pm
Im shocked at this read, Got the PS2s on and i dont get any grip with them at all in this weather!
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: TrickGTI on January 18, 2011, 08:27:46 pm
Im shocked at this read, Got the PS2s on and i dont get any grip with them at all in this weather!

Me neither bloody useless in this weather any thing but bone dry is no good iv found  :ashamed:
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: danishmkvgti on January 18, 2011, 08:31:07 pm
Im shocked at this read, Got the PS2s on and i dont get any grip with them at all in this weather!

Me neither bloody useless in this weather any thing but bone dry is no good iv found  :ashamed:

all i can say to you both, below 7-8 degrees celsius you need wintertyres to drive safely. And they are cheaper than a new front on the  :wink:car
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: vRS Carl on January 18, 2011, 09:20:15 pm
all i can say to you both, below 7-8 degrees celsius you need wintertyres to drive safely. And they are cheaper than a new front on the  :wink:car

Surely it's cheaper to just slow down and be more careful  :confused: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: vRSAlex on January 18, 2011, 09:40:36 pm
Im almost at the point of needing some new fronts.  Currently running the Hankook V12 Evo's.  They are good in the wet and dry, but they have worn so fast.  Lasted only 6k on the fronts and the rears are not far behind with maybe 3mm left.

I was thinking of some Conti 3's, PS2's or PS3's.  I recently did a load of work on a new Focus RS which came with Conti 3's.  The grip was amazing in the wet.  Loads more straight line grip with zero wheel spin compared to the vRS.  Cornering speeds were much higher than the vRS too in the wet with the Focus taking a good flick to get any under or oversteer.  It could be the setup of the focus that was doing most of the work, but I drive a sh*t load of different cars and can usually tell if the tyres are crap or not.  What are the Conti's like in the dry?

I always ran R888's on the Ibiza all year round and loved the feel and grip of them, but the fronts would only last a couple of thou.  Crap in standing water, but they still gripped really well in the damp and rain.

As Janner Sy stated, the Toyo t1r's are sh*t.  Feels like you are driving on ice until they eventually scrub in.

My old runabout had some stretched Dunlop SP9000's on which were amazing in the wet, but had too much movement in the dry mainly due to the stretch on them.

After using a X-Bow a few times that had the Dunlop Direzza 03G's fitted I will stay well clear of them.  Scared me how bad they were.  Way too hard and took and age to warm up.  Great if you like to hang the back end out, but the lightest touch of the brakes would lock the wheels.  Same car with R888's or slicks was a great drive.

So with all the mixed opinions its hard for me to come to a conclusion.  Conti 3's, PS2 or PS3's?  Im leaning to the Conti's, but Ive not driven them in the dry.  The Conti 2's in the dry just seemed average with alot of sidewall and block movement.

Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: danishmkvgti on January 19, 2011, 07:03:43 am
all i can say to you both, below 7-8 degrees celsius you need wintertyres to drive safely. And they are cheaper than a new front on the  :wink:car

Surely it's cheaper to just slow down and be more careful  :confused: :evilgrin:

That's the sencible thing to do, like pay ones car insurance (which i understand is a problem in the UK) or always wear a condom during sexual intercourse.
reality is somewhat different. On a really bad winterday Falck (equal to the german ADAC) assists about 5000 people, 90% of those are on summertyres, so even though we know better, we still can't foresee the conditions we will encounter during winter.  :wink:
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: vRS Carl on January 19, 2011, 08:14:35 am
all i can say to you both, below 7-8 degrees celsius you need wintertyres to drive safely. And they are cheaper than a new front on the  :wink:car

Surely it's cheaper to just slow down and be more careful  :confused: :evilgrin:

That's the sencible thing to do, like pay ones car insurance (which i understand is a problem in the UK) or always wear a condom during sexual intercourse.
reality is somewhat different. On a really bad winterday Falck (equal to the german ADAC) assists about 5000 people, 90% of those are on summertyres, so even though we know better, we still can't foresee the conditions we will encounter during winter.  :wink:

I fully agree with you I was just being sarcastic mate :drinking:
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: danishmkvgti on January 19, 2011, 08:25:59 am
 :drinking:  @ VRsCarl
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: Aaron_RJ on January 19, 2011, 07:02:34 pm
i have falkens on at the minute and there crap understeer like mad  :driver:
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: danishmkvgti on January 19, 2011, 07:18:08 pm
The reason i use winter tyres

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi715.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww160%2Fjakethemoss%2FIMG_0237.jpg&hash=03c2e7e02c5aeff4cf42e61ead427323492c49b2)

Look how much they grip in the snow
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: richtung on January 20, 2011, 10:04:26 am
Hi Folks,

Ive decided to go for the vredestein ultrac sessantas for the Edition 30 but the cheapest i can find is £100 delivered . That seems to be a a jump from £80 odd from before christmas!  :surprised:

can anywhere suggest any other retailers that do mail order or stockists in the manchester area?

Thanks guys

Rich
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: vRS Carl on January 20, 2011, 10:05:44 am
Don't forget VAT went up to 20% on Jan 4th so that is probably why the price hike.

Try ringing around your local tyre fitters and play them off against each other. :happy2:
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: apollo13 on January 20, 2011, 10:19:35 am
Hi Folks,

Ive decided to go for the vredestein ultrac sessantas for the Edition 30 but the cheapest i can find is £100 delivered . That seems to be a a jump from £80 odd from before christmas!  :surprised:

can anywhere suggest any other retailers that do mail order or stockists in the manchester area?

Thanks guys

Rich

£100 each fitted is a good price! I paid £75 each last time I had a set but I think the good reviews and vat have pushed the prices up. Even on Camskill their £114 I think delivered.

Your lucky you can find them in stock at all! Most places are sold out. I manged to get 4 delivered for £360 but still had to pay £40 fitting.

Lee
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: richtung on January 20, 2011, 10:56:45 am
Hi Folks,

Ive decided to go for the vredestein ultrac sessantas for the Edition 30 but the cheapest i can find is £100 delivered . That seems to be a a jump from £80 odd from before christmas!  :surprised:

can anywhere suggest any other retailers that do mail order or stockists in the manchester area?

Thanks guys

Rich

£100 each fitted is a good price! I paid £75 each last time I had a set but I think the good reviews and vat have pushed the prices up. Even on Camskill their £114 I think delivered.

Your lucky you can find them in stock at all! Most places are sold out. I manged to get 4 delivered for £360 but still had to pay £40 fitting.

Lee

Thats £100 delivered Lee, i still have to factor in fitting, balancing etc. Where did you get 4@ £360 delivered from?

Thanks

Richard
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: apollo13 on January 20, 2011, 11:41:49 am
Private seller on eBay listed as 'vredstein' not 'vredestein' although I had the last 4.

I always alter the spelling of things, that's how you get eBay bargains.

Mate of mine bought some OEM 'zenons' for his golf for the starting bid of £100!
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: cat69uk on January 20, 2011, 11:53:28 am
I got 4 Vredestein delivered yesterday for 17", £83 each from here: http://www.clickontyres.com/Vredestein/22545_ZR17_Vredestein_Ultrac_Sessanta_XL_94Y

Could not stomach the cost of Conti or Michelin.  Only used one day, pretty good so far, even in the icy north.
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: richtung on January 21, 2011, 06:10:45 pm
just ordered 4 Vredestein sentantas :happy2: - i was only going to get 2 but thought i may as well do them all.
 Currently running Federals on the front and BF Goodrich on the rears (they came with the car).

Hopefully the Vreds will make a positive difference  :wink:

Rich
Title: Re: TYRE THRED... what are your preference's
Post by: rich83 on January 25, 2011, 12:11:47 pm
i have falkens on at the minute and there crap understeer like mad  :driver:

Yep... shocking!
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: danishmkvgti on January 25, 2011, 01:02:36 pm
Just ordered and paid for 4 of these bad boys

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fww160%2Fjakethemoss%2Ftiretest-michelin-pilot-super-sport-002_gallery_image_large.jpg&hash=efd0169c518671b4e06e638f3fcfa610bbbee89c)

through here

http://www.tyretraders.com/tyreInformation.aspx?CID=1&ItemID=MIC23535R1991YPSS&OrderType=1 (http://www.tyretraders.com/tyreInformation.aspx?CID=1&ItemID=MIC23535R1991YPSS&OrderType=1)

got a 25£ discount also

 :happy2:
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 25, 2011, 02:40:17 pm
got a 25£ discount also

 :happy2:

you need one @ £215 per tyre :surprised:
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: GTIjames on January 25, 2011, 03:35:29 pm
Its not a bad price for 19s - I paid around that for ps2's in the same fitment about a month ago, the price for 265 35 19 will make you wince

though that website looks a little dubious, Ive searched the internet for these and none of the big sellers (tyre pneus/mytyres/camskill/blackcircles) are stocking them yet so it makes me wander how these chaps have got them in when their website looks like its from 1990s  :confused:
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: Saint Steve on January 25, 2011, 03:53:32 pm
over a grand for a set of 4!!!!

You have too much money obviously! :signLOL:
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: vRS Carl on January 25, 2011, 04:09:54 pm
Over a grand for a set of 4 :surprised: :surprised:

I'd want the tyres to enable me to be Sebastien Vettel and suck me off afterwards for that :laugh: (the tyres not Vettel)
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: rich83 on January 25, 2011, 04:11:35 pm
Over a grand for a set of 4 :surprised: :surprised:

I'd want the tyres to enable me to be Sebastien Vettel and suck me off afterwards for that :laugh: (the tyres not Vettel)

Phew....  :scared: but unless youve got an 18" girth i doubt the tyre will give much gratification!
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: vRS Carl on January 25, 2011, 04:16:24 pm
That's a lack of imagination.


Your forgetting the tread :wink: :signLOL:
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: rich83 on January 25, 2011, 04:22:41 pm
Good job there are summer tyres... winters tyres would chafe like crazy!
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: danishmkvgti on January 25, 2011, 05:14:04 pm
Its not a bad price for 19s - I paid around that for ps2's in the same fitment about a month ago, the price for 265 35 19 will make you wince

though that website looks a little dubious, Ive searched the internet for these and none of the big sellers (tyre pneus/mytyres/camskill/blackcircles) are stocking them yet so it makes me wander how these chaps have got them in when their website looks like its from 1990s  :confused:

well i ordered the tyres about noon, and just got a mail with this:

Hi Jake Seneca,
     We would just like to update you on the status of your order. Your order has now been Shipped. You can track your order by going to the DHL tracking service and copying your Ident code, which is jjd000229017920124 into the relevany box.
 
     Thank you for using Tyretraders and we hope to do business with you again soon.
 
Kind Regards,
The Tyretraders Team

So aparently they had these in stock  :party:

This info is in the mail:

TyreTraders.com Ltd, Registered in England and Wales, Unit 17 Radius Industrial Estate, Heath Road, Darlaston, Walsall, West Midlands, WS10 8XE Company No: 45244443.
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 25, 2011, 05:18:07 pm
might be a set of PS2's in the post  to you lol.  Keen to see how these tyres are actually.  they dont do them in fitment for the little vRS ive ordered :stupid: come to think of it, alot of tyres arent available in the size i need. 
205/40R17 or 215/40 R17.  Might be a wheel swap in order i think to a 7.5" rim for some better tyre availability
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: GTIjames on January 25, 2011, 05:20:56 pm
Its not a bad price for 19s - I paid around that for ps2's in the same fitment about a month ago, the price for 265 35 19 will make you wince

though that website looks a little dubious, Ive searched the internet for these and none of the big sellers (tyre pneus/mytyres/camskill/blackcircles) are stocking them yet so it makes me wander how these chaps have got them in when their website looks like its from 1990s  :confused:

well i ordered the tyres about noon, and just got a mail with this:

Hi Jake Seneca,
     We would just like to update you on the status of your order. Your order has now been Shipped. You can track your order by going to the DHL tracking service and copying your Ident code, which is jjd000229017920124 into the relevany box.
 
     Thank you for using Tyretraders and we hope to do business with you again soon.
 
Kind Regards,
The Tyretraders Team

So aparently they had these in stock  :party:

This info is in the mail:

TyreTraders.com Ltd, Registered in England and Wales, Unit 17 Radius Industrial Estate, Heath Road, Darlaston, Walsall, West Midlands, WS10 8XE Company No: 45244443.

 :happy2: you cant get much better service than that,

full review required :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: john_o on January 25, 2011, 07:24:32 pm
I'd want the tyres to enable me to be Sebastien Vettel and suck me off afterwards for that :laugh: (the tyres not Vettel)

that was funny Carl  :signLOL:, would make for an interesting review article 'great tyre, but failed to satisfy fully'
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: Beddie on January 25, 2011, 07:49:18 pm
The Michelin Pilot super sports are now available from your local Costco  :happy2:

My nearest one (Chester) fitted a set to a Focus RS at the weekend, sounds expensive!
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: the bruce on January 26, 2011, 04:44:19 pm
Good choice, Jake !!

 :happy2:
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: SteveS on January 26, 2011, 06:53:55 pm
would love to know your thoughts on these tyres when u have them
Title: Re: TYRE THREAD... what are your preference's
Post by: the bruce on January 26, 2011, 08:57:40 pm
would love to know your thoughts on these tyres when u have them


I'm sure he's gonna tell us. But snow should have gone first I think.