MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: Gtiain on January 13, 2011, 05:34:11 pm
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I know it's nothing new but I'm going to go down this route, and put an r32 bumper on my gti. This obviously means I'll need a new exhaust and considering I know nothing about them then I'm after some help! :smiley:
My car isn't mapped YET and I'd like a setup to go on now but then one that can still perform when I get the map done. I also don't want it to sound like a 16yr olds Saxo! Maybe a little louder than stock but not much.
So if anyone can recommend me a setup that it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks :happy2:
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YOU WILL FIND THAT PROBABALY 3 KEEP COMING UP..oops caps lock!! :ashamed:
blueflame- i have this and i,m chuffed with it.-see my car thread
millitek - lots had this joe had this-read his build
pipewerx - i believe big al is going this route
hope that helps a little bit- someone who knows what he is talking about will follow shortly i,m sure :innocent:
matsu
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Thanks :happy2:
I've heard people talking about cat backs and sport cats and all sorts of cats! It's all :stupid: to me! What are my options here?
And are prices similar between the 3?
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My car isn't mapped YET and I'd like a setup to go on now but then one that can still perform when I get the map done. I also don't want it to sound like a 16yr olds Saxo! Maybe a little louder than stock but not much.
....Then I would recommend Milltek and Resonated version. Non-Resonated version (changeable centre pipe section) is a bit louder but only when on the throttle. Hi-flow turbo-back will best suit remapping when you do it. But get a remap which Milltek approve rather than something which subjects your system to too much heat.
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My car isn't mapped YET and I'd like a setup to go on now but then one that can still perform when I get the map done. I also don't want it to sound like a 16yr olds Saxo! Maybe a little louder than stock but not much.
....Then I would recommend Milltek and Resonated version. Non-Resonated version (changeable centre pipe section) is a bit louder but only when on the throttle. Hi-flow turbo-back will best suit remapping when you do it. But get a remap which Milltek approve rather than something which subjects your system to too much heat.
Thanks robin. Is Revo milltek approved? As this is the route im going to go down I Think.
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I would say don't go blueflame if your not after alot of noise iv just fitted a tbe de-cat and it's pretty loud I love it but it's anything but quite!!!!
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Thanks robin. Is Revo milltek approved? As this is the route im going to go down I Think.
....Yes, Milltek collaborate with all the major established tuners. It's the guys offering mapping codes off eBay etc that you would need to be careful of. That's not to say that they're all bad but the more proven the better and Revo is major for VAG cars. APR have effectively withdrawn from the UK at the moment but are also good tuners. Bluefin/Superchips are well established but there appear to more negative reports than from the others.
Other tuning alternatives can be posted here by others with experience of them.
PDT is very experienced and helpful. JKM down south (Portsmouth).
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I also don't want it to sound like a 16yr olds Saxo! Maybe a little louder than stock but not much.
So if anyone can recommend me a setup that it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks :happy2:
This is the same sort of sound i like on a car. on my vRS i found that with a 3" downpipe, the engine noise wasnt increased that much, but the tone of the exhaust note was alot deeper. When i fitted my cat back to it after a year or so, it sounded awesome when booting it, but a bit to much for daily use
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I also don't want it to sound like a 16yr olds Saxo! Maybe a little louder than stock but not much.
So if anyone can recommend me a setup that it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks :happy2:
This is the same sort of sound i like on a car. on my vRS i found that with a 3" downpipe, the engine noise wasnt increased that much, but the tone of the exhaust note was alot deeper. When i fitted my cat back to it after a year or so, it sounded awesome when booting it, but a bit to much for daily use
That is exactly the noise I'm after thanks :happy2:
So the setup robin suggested with a 3" downpipe is what I should be looking for? :happy2:
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i was on about the standard cat back exhaust mated to a 3" performance downpipe
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i was on about the standard cat back exhaust mated to a 3" performance downpipe
....I've never quite understood the mix and match approach for an exhaust. It might cost a little more but I'd rather have the comfort of a stainless steel performance exhaust throughout and fully backed up by the manufacturer. You can't expect back up if you mix products - Milltek, for example, design their exhaust systems in their entiretity to accommodate back pressure etc etc.
Please correct me if I've misunderstood your post. :happy2:
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i was on about the standard cat back exhaust mated to a 3" performance downpipe
....I've never quite understood the mix and match approach for an exhaust. It might cost a little more but I'd rather have the comfort of a stainless steel performance exhaust throughout and fully backed up by the manufacturer. You can't expect back up if you mix products - Milltek, for example, design their exhaust systems in their entiretity to accommodate back pressure etc etc.
Please correct me if I've misunderstood your post. :happy2:
i think you have :happy2:. The exhaust has two parts. one is really restrictive to flow(the DP), one is really restrictive for sound(the cat back). you can change both and go for a free flowing better sounding exhaust but @ a cost of around £1000+, or you could do just the downpipe, release the back pressure, get a nicer burble and have £500 in your back burner to spend on other things.
Could you explain why miltek or any other exhaust manufacturer for that matter wouldn't offer any form of back up(which they do!!) if you were only to fit one half of the exhaust system. if this were true they wouldn't sell them like that at all, they would come as a whole TBE system. Also if your exhaust breaks whether full TBE, Cat back or downpipe, they are still covered by a warranty should they fail. So miltek under the consumer rights act would have to support/replace or repair anything that is down to their workmanship or product.
Also reference back pressure for the whole system. Myself along with many others on here, SCN and briskoda etc have all found the cat back gave naff all gains, so that would rubbish the back pressure claim ,IMO of course.
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Well I'm really confused now! :signLOL: :stupid:
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Well I'm really confused now! :signLOL: :stupid:
lol. Its simple, you can buy the exhaust and fit it however you want,and still have back up from the manufacturer.
If your after power and a change in exhaust note-Get the downpipe £500
If your after more noise get the cat back £500
if your after both get a full system £1000.
simples :happy2:
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So if I decide to get a new downpipe will I just need to get one that will fit a gti with an r32 rear?! :happy2: or am I missing something. Thanks chaps
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The downpipe will be a GTI one, then you need to find out what size DP your going to order, and what size the R32 rear is. then get a connector/reducer to fit them together. they are available on ebay for a pittance
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The downpipe will be a GTI one, then you need to find out what size DP your going to order, and what size the R32 rear is. then get a connector/reducer to fit them together. they are available on ebay for a pittance
Thanks for your help. :happy2:
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I have very recently done this conversion, and like yourself i didnt want Eddy to sound like a boy racer saxo, so i went for cat-back resonated miltek. There wasnt much difference in sound when it was fitted but its gotten slightly louder(as they do) not loud enough to be classed as a boy/girl racer but enough to put a grin like a cheshire cat on my face every day :-D
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I can't wait. I've had a look at your build thread and it looks great. :happy2:
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I love it, makes me smile each time i look at Eddy :-D do u need part numbers for the bumper?
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Yes please :happy2: have you got pn for reflectors and tow jobby? Thanks
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I dont have them to hand and im off work tomorrow but ill txt one of the boys in work, he could get me all PN's required for the bumper mod inc reflectors and towing eye cover. Would you like prices too? (i could pm prices to you if youd rather)
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I dont have them to hand and im off work tomorrow but ill txt one of the boys in work, he could get me all PN's required for the bumper mod inc reflectors and towing eye cover. Would you like prices too? (i could pm prices to you if youd rather)
Yes that would be great! Thanks very much. Hope to hear from you soon then! :happy2: