MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: damoegan on January 25, 2011, 08:20:28 pm
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Anyone running a oil temp gauge?
Just looking for a place to plumb the sender into..
On my old Ibiza there was a grub screw in the oil filter housing that you could remove and fit the sender to...
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yes, factory fitted lol :wink:
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yes, factory fitted lol :wink:
:booty: :booty:
:signLOL:
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sure thier is some where you can get adaptor wire so it shows in the dash of a mk 5..
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That would be cool if you can :happy2:
Any more info, Andy
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here you go
http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1329_E-MFA-DIS-Add-On---Display-Boost--Oil--Battery.html
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here is a member on here who has done it bout 1/2 way down the first page
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1167.45.html
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:notworthy:
Pricey, but awsome :jumping:
I'll just stick with the oil temp gauge that I've already got for now as I've just been made redundant :sad1:
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:notworthy:
Pricey, but awsome :jumping:
I'll just stick with the oil temp gauge that I've already got for now as I've just been made redundant :sad1:
i was going to get that mod until i saw the price...eSorry to hear you have been made redundant mate
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:notworthy:
Pricey, but awsome :jumping:
I'll just stick with the oil temp gauge that I've already got for now as I've just been made redundant :sad1:
sorry to hear that mate :surprised:
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Cheers guys, I'm sure I'll get a job soon enough.
Afterall, everyone needs a engineer, right :happy2:
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Cheers guys, I'm sure I'll get a job soon enough.
Afterall, everyone needs a engineer, right :happy2:
what do you do pal???
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Multi skilled maintenance engineer, Gaz..
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plant type stuff??
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More factory type stuff, but I'll do anything :laugh:
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thats the attitude :happy2: somethin will turn up :smiley:
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Cheers Gaz :love:
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Sorry to go back to oil temp. but has anyone else installed the Kufatec EMFA? It implies that it wont work if the MFA is used to display phone info anyone know if thats true as oil temp or pressure is something I would really like to have to know when the engine is fully up to temp.
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Its something I'd like to know too, Rich :smiley:
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Its something I'd like to know too, Rich :smiley:
PS sorry to hear about the job Damoegan hope you had enough years in to at least provide a lump to keep you going till you find your new job :drinking:
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Thanks Rich :smiley:
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mines the car in the link fellas but i cant help as i dont have a phone kit installed, but im sure theres a version with phone/bluetooth for approx 300 euros ish., any more pics or info you need just ask :happy2:
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Thanks for the input, Brett :happy2:
Fancy putting up a few more pics and what options you can actualy view :wink:
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yeah i can no probs Damo, it will be tomorrow though as my cars tucked up in its bed/ garage. ill take a few pics to show what you can see.
The only slight draw back is that the boost option doesnt work on the Gti`s :mad:
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Coolio, cheers Brett :happy2:
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Awesome sell a sump plug which has a 1/8" NPT threaded hole thru the centre for gauge fitting. Fairly cheap and I'd look into that option if fitting a oil temp gauge to mine
http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=13757&xSec=151 (http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=13757&xSec=151)
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Yea, I knew that Awsome did those, I just didn't realy want to do it that way. Will do though if theres no other way.
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mines the car in the link fellas but i cant help as i dont have a phone kit installed, but im sure theres a version with phone/bluetooth for approx 300 euros ish., any more pics or info you need just ask :happy2:
Hope yoy didn't mind me putting the link to your car Brett...just one question did it need coding in when you fitted the kit
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i dont mind at all fella, its why we're all here :happy2:
And no coding at all, its plug and play. it just piggy backs on to the radio wiring plug
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Ahh ok cheers Brett, interested to see the pictures as integrated oil temp or even oil pressure would be really good to have. had even been considering the little screen that some yanks have put together that goes in the air vent if they developed the software for oil info it runs off the OBD port so isn't really very OEM which is what I like.
Pictures will be interesting of the operation.
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heres a few pics and vid for y`all, excuse the quality as its quite hard to get a good pic of the screen
visible things on the gti are: Battery Volts ~ Oil Temp ~ Speed Mph ~ Water Temp ~ Rpm ~ Fuel (litres).
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw199%2Fv2brett%2FSDC10620.jpg&hash=04d04c570d11311bc64cb32166822b2280efe16d)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw199%2Fv2brett%2FSDC10619.jpg&hash=2be7dc50eee668b96a54fdc938363cbcc93f7018)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw199%2Fv2brett%2FSDC10618.jpg&hash=3bea2b2434037e335c002b02d13185a930734f16)
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Brett, am I right in thinking that the Kufatec E-MFA does not report back boost on petrol trubo'd cars, only soot chuckers?
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Brett, am I right in thinking that the Kufatec E-MFA does not report back boost on petrol trubo'd cars, only soot chuckers?
yeah your right Dom, its such a shame it doesnt
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Cheers Brett, useful pics and vid, need to have a look if the E-MFA is in the same position as the phone screen, wonder if they use the telephone display section of the MFD to display the figures.
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Cheers Brett, useful pics and vid, need to have a look if the E-MFA is in the same position as the phone screen, wonder if they use the telephone display section of the MFD to display the figures.
i think it must Rich
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You cannot use the E-MFA in conjunction with a bluetooth kit, that is one thing I know - says it on the Kufatec website
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Three important facts:
The E-MFA is included in the Fiscon Basic and basic plus kits.
The E-MFA is compatible with the more simple VW phone kit.
The E-MFA does not work with the Volkswagen premium phone kit because the E-MFA
uses its place in the central display.
My opinion:
The best bang for the bug (paid 90,-- €) !!
:happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.golfvigti.com%2Fupload%2Favatars%2Futool_f_1296129819_14.jpg&hash=7f905358504c050766c4f1dde670e54273393a1b)
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what's your SW version? (your clock is on the right)
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ps:
what's your SW version? (your clock is on the right)
not sure on my SW version but my car has Sat-Nav so when the stereos On theres a compass to the left of the clock :happy2:
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Where is the cheapest place to get the E-MFA in the UK at the moment?
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Three important facts:
The E-MFA is included in the Fiscon Basic and basic plus kits.
The E-MFA is compatible with the more simple VW phone kit.
The E-MFA does not work with the Volkswagen premium phone kit because the E-MFA
uses its place in the central display.
My opinion:
The best bang for the bug (paid 90,-- €) !!
:happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.golfvigti.com%2Fupload%2Favatars%2Futool_f_1296129819_14.jpg&hash=7f905358504c050766c4f1dde670e54273393a1b)
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what's your SW version? (your clock is on the right)
Ahh ok cheers Bruce, so it uses the position of the VW premium Bluetooth on the MFD, so I assume this would also be the case for a bluetooth only module like the Skoda 729B that I have. Which is a shame, but since it works through the RNS as well I wonder which would win the battle for space on the MFD, or can the bluetooth kit be programmed not to display on the MFD so I can have E-MFA and phone!!! ouch my head now hurts!
Anyone any ideas?
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Firstly I'm really sorry to hear of your redundancy, Damo. Hang on in there - As one door closes, another door opens. So it might turn out for the best longer term. Think positive, mate.
On the subject of oil gauges, I'm told that it's much more important to have an oil pressure gauge than oil temperature. By monitoring the oil pressure, it's apparently a much better early warning system.
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Where does the loom fit ? And will it work on midline clocks
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Thanks Robin :ashamed:
Yea, I know that a oil pressure gauge is more important than a oil temp gauge (also important in its own right) but.... as I have the oil temp gauge left over from my last car it would be daft not to use it :happy2:
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Where does the loom fit ? And will it work on midline clocks
No, I regret, it doesn't. You need the large display.
@ Rich: no idea, would be a costly try
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Where does it fit tho ? I have some highlines to fit anyway
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Not sure if anyone has tryed this before....
1. depress ECON and hold
2. while holding ECON, depress the VENT with the 'UP' arrow
3. release
4. turn drivers side adjustment until 19.0 shows in the window (this is KPH)
5. turn the center (dial) adjuster ONE click clockwise (to the right) and 19.1 will be in the Driver's side window, and MPH will be displayed in the Passenger side window
6. repeat step 5 until 19.3 is displayed on the Driver's side, and RPM will show on the passenger side.
7. depress ECON to exit.
Other readings are:
1.0 : Temp as read by sensor in middle fan speed knob
1.4 : light intesity falling on same sensor
4.0 : Outside temp - front bumper
4.1 : Outside temp - roof
4.2 : Outside temp - rear bumper
15.0 : Oil temp
19.0 : Uncorrected speed (Kmh)
19.1 : Uncorrected speed (Mph)
19.2 : Coolant temp
19.3 : RPM (x100)
19.4 : Oil Pressure
25.0 : Voltage
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Where does it fit tho ? I have some highlines to fit anyway
it fits into the back of the stereo, eg. RADIO ~ EMFA harness (fits inbetween) ~ Original Radio wiring.
Not sure if anyone has tryed this before....
i tried that once Damo in my last 2 Vw`s but its a bit of chore to do everytime you get in the car, plus i needed a list of what channel means what :signLOL:
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Ive tried that Damo, some things seemed to display the right kind of information but oil temp just said 900 constantly didnt change and the car was cold. Yeah it could be an expensive test although sure I can always sell it on, wont be in the next month or so as I have some other commitments.
@Robin, I would love something that showed both oil pressure and temp, but my main interest is to know when the car is fully warm and protected as the oil temp is correct and will be at the right viscosity to be doing its job. Will also give me something to entertain me when driving other than the mpg figures :rolleye:
Its a bit like the tyre monitor youve got I really want it as I like the real-time monitoring just not sure where I would put it in the car to keep it looking OEM.....
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Ive tried that Damo, some things seemed to display the right kind of information but oil temp just said 900 constantly didnt change and the car was cold. Yeah it could be an expensive test although sure I can always sell it on, wont be in the next month or so as I have some other commitments.
@Robin, I would love something that showed both oil pressure and temp, but my main interest is to know when the car is fully warm and protected as the oil temp is correct and will be at the right viscosity to be doing its job. Will also give me something to entertain me when driving other than the mpg figures :rolleye:
Its a bit like the tyre monitor youve got I really want it as I like the real-time monitoring just not sure where I would put it in the car to keep it looking OEM.....
How about one of these setups, as you can have it set to display oil pressure and temp on 1 display. :happy2:
http://www.podi.ca/ExtraDualDisplay.aspx?ProductId=40&CarId=&GroupId=1 (http://www.podi.ca/ExtraDualDisplay.aspx?ProductId=40&CarId=&GroupId=1)
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What an ugly gauge that is!
I like the adapter to change the Highline display as its inkeeping with the cars layout as it is. I'm also interested in seeing how long the oil takes to get up to temp and want to try that thing out above using the climate control to see what happens
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i tried that once Damo in my last 2 Vw`s but its a bit of chore to do everytime you get in the car, plus i needed a list of what channel means what :signLOL:
....I tried it too. I'm glad it's not just me that found it tedious - I was worried it was just an age thing.
Highline is probably the only option I most regret not ticking.
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How about one of these setups, as you can have it set to display oil pressure and temp on 1 display. :happy2:
http://www.podi.ca/ExtraDualDisplay.aspx?ProductId=40&CarId=&GroupId=1 (http://www.podi.ca/ExtraDualDisplay.aspx?ProductId=40&CarId=&GroupId=1)
Thanks for the suggestion Thor, they would do the job, really looking for something that reads off the car data as I dont want to be installing sensors in the engine/engine bay so off the OBD port or through internal canbus data, this is the other option ive considered but no oil pressure or temp as yet :sad1:
http://www.p3cars.com/mk5/ (http://www.p3cars.com/mk5/)
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i tried that once Damo in my last 2 Vw`s but its a bit of chore to do everytime you get in the car, plus i needed a list of what channel means what :signLOL:
....I tried it too. I'm glad it's not just me that found it tedious - I was worried it was just an age thing.
Highline is probably the only option I most regret not ticking.
Hi Robin,
You can retrofit a highline into your car quite easily :happy2:
@Rich
You could do away with your skoda BT and fit fiscon, then you'll get the best of both.
I was going to get fiscon BT before the 729B because I wanted the extra boost info. After reading a few reviews it turned out the extra display was a bit unreliable and prone to crashing so I opted for the 729B.
Not sure if this was a derv thing or just the unit in general though.
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Hi Robin,
You can retrofit a highline into your car quite easily :happy2:
....Really? Is there a How-To guide anywhere?
Not on my list of priorities and after 90k miles I've grown used the Midline's DSG gear display, but if I keep the car...
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Hi Robin,
You can retrofit a highline into your car quite easily :happy2:
....Really? Is there a How-To guide anywhere?
Not on my list of priorities and after 90k miles I've grown used the Midline's DSG gear display, but if I keep the car...
Yes its easy if you have the right software (which I have :wink:) and the correct dash insert for your car, yours being a 2005 is one of the easier ones to do as it doesnt mean a trip to the dealers or specialist. :happy2:
Have a read through this http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,18021.0.html
I would expect your car to have a 1K6 920 962 midline insert so you would need a 1K6 920 972 highline insert.
I have retrofitted the highline into my car and have done it for a few other too.
Oh just to add, you will still get your DSG gear indication on the highline :happy2:
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@ Lee:
I was gonna click ya a Thank You but there ain't none in this section :sad1:
Yes, I know about the DSG display: Horizontal numerals and bigger in Highline; Vertical dis in Midline.
Have now read Stu's VCDS info. How tricky is it to physically swap? I'd have to go to a member of The Friendly To Females Garages (yes, they do exist!)
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I can do it in about 15 mins. Physically swapping the clocks takes 1 minute its the immobiliser coding and resetting the sensors that takes the extra time.
Most dealers run a mile when you ask for a dash swap but some will do it. Also some dealers will only fit a new dash which is costly around £350ish plus labour plus possibly a surcharge as your midline is not a like for like replacement. There are some specialists that will do it but your looking at roughly the same money.
You can pick them up used for between £80-£250 it really depends on how hard you hunt for one.
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Going back to OP, I've fitted a DEFI oil pressure gauge to my car. I used that instead of an oil temp gauge as you can infer oil temp from oil pressure (through viscosity - pressure will be higher with cold thick oil and will decrease as the oil warms up and gets more fluid).
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3001%2F3113998341_2f75ff2143_b.jpg&hash=ed2520651e7022487720492181cbe3411c3c5c8e).
The location to install the sender (for either pressure or temperature) is behind the engine block, IIRC roughly above where the turbo is. Requires removal of the intake and any heatshield you may have fitted.
There's a banjobolt going through a union back there.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3196%2F2876046103_9dd58cf70c_b.jpg&hash=167f66f0f98c3b89e2da5ad6ce0292589c35afbe)
NewSouth sell a kit with a three-port banjobolt and two crush washers (one on either side of the union, so one on the banjobolt and the other up against the block).
Set of the install here.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cmdrfire/sets/72157607417478887/with/2876046103/
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I've seen cmdrfire's DEFI gauges and they look and operate very cool indeed. If I was starting again I'd go for his Defi installation.
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I'll just stick with the oil temp gauge that I've already got for now as I've just been made redundant :sad1:
Multi skilled maintenance engineer
Sorry to hear that. If i hear of anything i will let you know.
www.reed.co.uk is a good site to keep an eye on for jobs in our area for engineers.
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Thanks for the input, CMD :happy2:
Thanks Geof, I'm already with Reed :wink: