MK5 Golf GTI
General => Product Reviews => Topic started by: RedRobin on November 04, 2008, 04:50:35 pm
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KW have just launched this ubercool product : -
http://www.kwsuspensions.de/HLS-Special/video.html (http://www.kwsuspensions.de/HLS-Special/video.html)
But!! It's currently only for a few supercars and costs anything from £2,800 - £6,000.
However, I had a long chat with KW today and their German team is currently developing their HLS system for other than expensive supercars. They fully realise that there is a healthy market for 'lesser' cars and that the price needs to be reduced dramatically. Currently there is all sorts of electronic wizardry which needn't be included in the wider market.
Our beloved Mk5 GTI suffers on ramps etc from having a relatively long front overhang and so the problem in indoor carparks etc is very real.
I was assured that once their HLS had been developed for the GTI (on their list), VW Racing (who are tailor making my KW suspension) can easily swop springs to the same ratings I will have so I could have HLS and still retain my handling characteristics. It would be a simple toggle switch operated manually - Perfect! Yet another reason why I'm glad I have gone to VWR - I invariably have to wait weeks and weeks for a workshop slot and dates change at the last minute but it's always been soooo worth it!
Of course it remains to be seen how affordable the HLS will be for us mortals who don't drive supercars but KW know they need to price it right to achieve the sales.
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As i'm idle, how much are these hydro lift kits inc coilovers ?
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As i'm idle, how much are these hydro lift kits inc coilovers ?
....Er, I'm not wishing to be rude, but your question suggests that you haven't read my post. :rolleye:
£2,800 - £6,000 for the likes of Porsches and Lambo's.
£unknown for the Mk5 GTI until the product version is further developed.
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lol - that'll be a no then :P ...... been having a blonde day
Cheap then............ :scared: :evilgrin:
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I saw these advertized a while back and eilbach i think have got them for Mk5 already could be wrong on that one though.
I think only you can afford the pimp mod. :grin:
Lets hope TinyDave sees this, :innocent: have you seen how low his car is on the front check out his ride in the members ride section. :rolleye:
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Lets hope TinyDave sees this, :innocent: have you seen how low his car is on the front check out his ride in the members ride section. :rolleye:
just had a look at the video, its a good idea but i wonder do you have to be stopped to raise it, could you imagine driving down the road and having to stop dead to raise it up and then go over and stop and lower it again? bit of a pain id say but i would say thats just the first round of ideas that they are doing, just do what i do drive up slow and crawl over :grin:
on another note isnt she just bet into them tight ass jeans :love:
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Lets hope TinyDave sees this, :innocent: have you seen how low his car is on the front check out his ride in the members ride section. :rolleye:
just had a look at the video, its a good idea but i wonder do you have to be stopped to raise it, could you imagine driving down the road and having to stop dead to raise it up and then go over and stop and lower it again? bit of a pain id say but i would say thats just the first round of ideas that they are doing, just do what i do drive up slow and crawl over :grin:
on another note isnt she just bet into them tight ass jeans :love:
I think you can adjust them on the move as you say it would be pointless to do otherwise.
Ps i am only jelous that i dont dare go that low with mine i dont think it would be suitable to my type of driving. :smiley:
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just had a look at the video, its a good idea but i wonder do you have to be stopped to raise it, could you imagine driving down the road and having to stop dead to raise it up and then go over and stop and lower it again? bit of a pain id say but i would say thats just the first round of ideas that they are doing, just do what i do drive up slow and crawl over :grin:
on another note isnt she just bet into them tight ass jeans :love:
....No, you can operate them on the move but only below a certain speed.
Also, they are more valuable for ramps than speed bumps. You can't negotiate a ramp.
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this looks like a cool bit of kit BUT would you really change the susspension on your 997 turbo?? can KW make better susspension than porsche? would you swap your audi R8 susspension for an aftermarken KW coilover?? im not sure as i dont own a super car, so i asked my dad, he said no :rolleye:
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Well, apparently quite a few people already do change their suspension on their Porsches etc, be it to Bilstein or KW.
I don't know who makes Porsche suspension so can't meaningfully comment about whether KW's would be an improvement or not. But given KW's adjustability and spec I wouldn't be at all surprised if their product is better than stock - People in motorsport seem to think so.
KW are aftermarket specialists and therefore must offer suspensions which are supposed to be an improvement.
Quite apart from that, HLS is an extremely desirable feature = Cool bit of kit - Not for cosmetic reasons but for functional reasons.
I'd much rather have the useful functionality of HLS than a K04 upgrade.
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That would be really handy for me , as i scrape the bottom of my OEM splitter on the small ramp that leads into my garage - it also means that I cannot colourcode or switch to carbon as I am too scared of causing damage , its just a shame that it costs so much!
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Ben from AMD has this kit on his RS http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=125160
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this looks like a cool bit of kit BUT would you really change the susspension on your 997 turbo?? can KW make better susspension than porsche? would you swap your audi R8 susspension for an aftermarken KW coilover?? im not sure as i dont own a super car, so i asked my dad, he said no :rolleye:
people do, thats why they run em on the race cars, i agree though, i would leave it, but then again i would not be taking a 997 turbo on track, too busy licking it :signLOL: is a cool piece of kit :happy2:
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I had a go in a Scirocco fitted with these at Inters in 2009 and wasn't very impressed: It only raises the car a small measurement and imo it's not worth it for the amount of money they're asking.
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Bilstein do a similar product - again only for certain cars - and remember what they said about their monotube construction against KW's when we were at the 'ring and the demo they showed us Robin :wink:
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and remember what they said about their monotube construction against KW's when we were at the 'ring and the demo they showed us Robin :wink:
Would you care to elaborate for the benefit of those of us who weren't there?
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and remember what they said about their monotube construction against KW's when we were at the 'ring and the demo they showed us Robin :wink:
Would you care to elaborate for the benefit of those of us who weren't there?
Yep,
Bilstein had a mock up of their monotube construction of their coilovers and also a mock up of other manufacturers constuction that allows you to see what is happening to the fluid inside the tube. The Bilstein coliover was then subjected to repetetive pushing and pulling and the fluid stayed clear and pure. The other one they showed us was then subjected to the same treatment and within a short period the fluid mixed freely with the air and this leads to degredation of the damper the longer it is used. Bilstein swear by their monotube construction and ease of adjustment of the damping and say it is the best combination by far. :happy2:
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Thanks for reminding me about that! I had just managed to forget! :P
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Thanks for reminding me about that! I had just managed to forget! :P
:signLOL:
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do tell, dont keep us in the dark
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do tell, dont keep us in the dark
Let's just say Robin left the show truck wanting Bilstein Coilovers :laugh:
Oh and I just checked - the Bilsteins are only electronic damper control and not ride height control :ashamed: