MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Gene Hunt on February 01, 2011, 07:33:40 pm

Title: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: Gene Hunt on February 01, 2011, 07:33:40 pm
First off i don't need any but what are you'r thoughts please ?. When i was younger & skint with yong kids etc i used these all the time on my mk2 GTI & never had a problem with any of them,reasons were i would rarther have a trusted brand part worn than some unknown brand for the same sort of money.
The garage i used were great & i could sort through & get the best ones.
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: bodger00 on February 01, 2011, 07:39:25 pm
Tyres are your only contact point on the.road. IMO you should buy new and from a good brand.
I would not skimp on tyres.
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: TrickGTI on February 01, 2011, 08:14:29 pm
Imo unless id known where they came from i.e a friend or some i knew then i wouldn't as they may have being curbed badly causing weakening to the sidewall or something like that... i just fitted two new verds today so thats my pocket money gone for this month  :sad1:

if i had a banger to drive about in then yea any old crap would do ha
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: rich83 on February 01, 2011, 08:18:25 pm
I got a part worn tyre when i got a 16" full sized spare for my old car, but i dont think id run the risk of using them on my GTI day in day out.
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: roamer1711 on February 01, 2011, 08:29:15 pm
At a potential speed of 70 I would not trust a bit of kit with no history second hand. You pays your money and takes your chance.
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: Gene Hunt on February 01, 2011, 09:56:11 pm
As in my first post don't need any as i have decent Vredestein fitted now.Just wondered what peoples thoughts were as there seem to be some honest garages/tyre fitters selling some decent rubber.
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: Nasir on February 01, 2011, 10:10:32 pm
I've dealt in part worn tyres so I'm pretty sure I know how it works. It's all down to the tyre, most tyres are old (usually 3+ years) so peak grip has gone and then they're worn down to around 4-5 mm if you're lucky. Not something for a performance car but for a runabout it would do the trick.

If you're lucky enough to get some decent part worn tyres, the price will reflect that as tyre garages know what it's worth. So you may aswell go for new ones as in the long run they do pay for themselves. Bottom line, not something for a GTI unless you're selling up.
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: Andy on February 01, 2011, 10:38:47 pm
i still get customers in m garage who have fitted 2nd hand tyre with punctures that have been repaired on the side wall..
As Nasir said a 2nd hand tyre can be 3+ years old..Anew tyre has a shelf live of 4 years,if it hasn't sold in that time it gets holes drilled in the side wall and scrapped by us
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: RedRobin on February 01, 2011, 10:51:04 pm
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I bought some used Dunlop Maxx from Mandy on here with 5 mm tread left. I bought them when there was a shortage of Goodyear-Dunlop asymmetric tyres. I have trusted her and so far so good. It's the first time I haven't bought tyres new. I don't plan to buy previously used tyres in the future though.
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: richtung on February 01, 2011, 10:59:17 pm
ok, an extreme example but proves the point - would you buy a used condom? i know, i know, its minging to think about   :sick: but illustrates the point (i think)

Rich
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: RedRobin on February 01, 2011, 11:03:11 pm

ok, an extreme example but proves the point - would you buy a used condom? i know, i know, its minging to think about   :sick: but illustrates the point (i think)

Rich

....I understand and wholeheartedly agree with your point about tyres being your only contact with the road but I really can't see the used condom analogy. Perhaps you meant to ask if anyone would use the same condom twice?
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: richtung on February 01, 2011, 11:09:25 pm

ok, an extreme example but proves the point - would you buy a used condom? i know, i know, its minging to think about   :sick: but illustrates the point (i think)

Rich

....I understand and wholeheartedly agree with your point about tyres being your only contact with the road but I really can't see the used condom analogy. Perhaps you meant to ask if anyone would use the same condom twice?

sorry, i was just trying to highlight the whole unknown history of the tyres, potential weakened areas through kerbing, age of the tyres etc etc. Perhaps the condom analagy wasnt the best one to use.. sorry, im just knackered!!

rich
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: RedRobin on February 01, 2011, 11:11:58 pm
^^^^
No need to apologise, Rich, your condom analogy was quite amusing.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: Greeners on February 01, 2011, 11:40:10 pm
As long as the part worn has been thoroughly checked over by a professional and they have an idea about the history I don't see a problem. I'm sure i read about someone recently who fitted brand brand new tyres only for them to bulge on a long journey!!
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: scotta on February 01, 2011, 11:44:43 pm
ETTO but not for me im afraid.

Im very much a premium brand tyre buyer as well. Bought cheapo tyres in the past and ended up just binning them and buying the Goodyears that i should have bought in the first place!
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: Greeners on February 02, 2011, 12:05:52 am
The op didn't ask about budget tyres, just part worn. I have 2 x virtually brand new Pirelli P-Zero Nero (around 7mm) on my car and they are superb and you would cry if I told you what I paid for them!!  :wink:

Surely its exactly the same as buying a set of second hand wheels with tyres on them. Would you throw the tyres away because they had been 'used'?  :stupid:
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: Nasir on February 02, 2011, 12:49:26 am
It's all down to the condition of the tyre which you can check yourself. The age can be checked with the DOT index and generally just by looking at the rubber (grey and hard with cracks  = avoid). But sometimes you may come across a bargain newer set.
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: Gene Hunt on February 02, 2011, 03:09:43 am
The op didn't ask about budget tyres, just part worn. I have 2 x virtually brand new Pirelli P-Zero Nero (around 7mm) on my car and they are superb and you would cry if I told you what I paid for them!!  :wink:

Surely its exactly the same as buying a set of second hand wheels with tyres on them. Would you throw the tyres away because they had been 'used'?  :stupid:
........as before in my orginal post,thats why i used them on my mk2. I got on great with the tyre place owner & i could always pick the best & never had any problems with them. :smiley:
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: RedRobin on February 02, 2011, 09:28:08 am

Surely its exactly the same as buying a set of second hand wheels with tyres on them. Would you throw the tyres away because they had been 'used'? :stupid:


....I would scrap the tyres if they weren't premium brands suitable for the car or were imitations.
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: Greeners on February 02, 2011, 09:45:31 am

Surely its exactly the same as buying a set of second hand wheels with tyres on them. Would you throw the tyres away because they had been 'used'? :stupid:


....I would scrap the tyres if they weren't premium brands suitable for the car or were imitations.

Obviously........................
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: winrya on February 02, 2011, 09:55:57 am
If its a good quality tyre I don't see the issue.  It's pretty easy to inspect for any sidewall damage and easy to spot any repairs.  We've done it a couple of times on our mini with run flats and its turned out an absolute bargain both times.

Just recently purchased 2 part worn dunlop sp01 run flat tyres (17") for the mini (considered the best run flat tyres available so far).   7mm of tread, perfect condition, worn evenly.  Mytyres will deliver me 2 for £320 plus £30 to fit.  I paid £55 for both off an ebay buyer with 100% feedback on all tyre sales.   

Would I do it for the gti?  Probably not, but that is only because i can get goodyear f1 assymetrics for £74 fitted a corner (18") :smiley: so the savings will be quite small
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: seiko on February 02, 2011, 10:11:49 am
I would never buy part worn, my reasons are when I bought my Nissan skyline gtr in 2006 it had good quality bridgestone tyres all round loads of tread, but handled like it was on ice into round abouts and corners, would lose grip and control at quite low speeds, when I took them to be replaced the tyre fitter had a hell of a job taking them off the rim, he explained they had probably been on the car for years and the compound had gone and hard, put new tyres on and the car was transformed, if you do intend buying some be sure you know how old they are and how long the have been in storage
Title: Re: Part worn or new tyres?.
Post by: danishmkvgti on February 02, 2011, 01:45:43 pm
As i'm a geek especially with the tyres that in the end will save me my car and or life. I don't compromise with these things, as above bought a Bike new in 91, turned out to be a 89 model from Japan with factory fitted Bridgestones, after 3 month of ownership i had to make an emergency stop on the hottest day of the year, front tyre slipped and i did a Superman along the tarmac, (first and only time without leathersuit and gloves), Had my skin peeled off 13 places, the palms of my hands was flat not normally curved. Always check the tyres on your newly bought vehicle for age.
Tought me to always put the best tyres on my vehicle whether bike or car.
Tyres are the only thing you shouldn't compromise on, and besides why in the he** buy a car with muscles and the take it to the road without grip to match???  :stupid:
In short: Buy tyres after what they are to be used for  :happy2: