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Title: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: rich83 on February 08, 2011, 06:25:29 pm
As above... and is it any good?

:happy2:
Rich

Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: vRS Carl on February 08, 2011, 06:34:54 pm
PDT has   :wink:

I hope it's better than his ability with VCDS  :laugh:
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: RedRobin on February 08, 2011, 06:38:40 pm
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Doesn't 'heavyd' have a PDT map?

PDT have helped a lot of folks out.
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: rich83 on February 08, 2011, 06:45:50 pm
Scrap that... cant afford it anyway!  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: Janner_Sy on February 08, 2011, 08:16:01 pm
PDT has REVO on his own car :laugh:  have a look at the remap thread poll.

theres 3 people iirc
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: Andy on February 08, 2011, 08:29:04 pm
heavyd has a custom map by pdt as do i :happy2:
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: vRS Carl on February 08, 2011, 08:30:56 pm
PDT has REVO on his own car :laugh:  have a look at the remap thread poll.

theres 3 people iirc

That's a good advert then  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: ScrupesGTI on February 08, 2011, 09:14:15 pm
I have one! I'm well happy with mine despite hearing a couple of horror stories that have been circulating with regard to PDT's remaps, service and conduct  :confused:

I found them easy to approach, seemed very knowledgable about what he was doing, saying that, i dont know much but he was enthusiastic about it all. the workshop was nicely set out and there were other customers there who were also happy with his previous work so my mind was immediately at ease handing him my car to work on.  I'd never met him before and had intended only on having the car rolling roaded but decided on the remap on impulse after asking about his own custom remap.

I've never driven another gti with a remap from other tuning houses but this one seems good, no issues what so ever, pulls very stong and feels great.


The fact he has a Revo map on his own car does look odd but it could be that his own map wont suit the demands of the additional equipment fitted to his engine??? who knows???

My opinion:   the best £300 i ever spent on a car!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: damoegan on February 08, 2011, 09:15:34 pm
I believe Trick GTI also has a PDT map..
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: Andy on February 08, 2011, 09:30:02 pm
PDT has REVO on his own car :laugh:  have a look at the remap thread poll.

theres 3 people iirc

That's a good advert then  :signLOL:
Doesn't the owner of awesome (jim) have revo on is audi --so good advert for them
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: vRS Carl on February 08, 2011, 09:35:42 pm
PDT has REVO on his own car :laugh:  have a look at the remap thread poll.

theres 3 people iirc

That's a good advert then  :signLOL:
Doesn't the owner of awesome (jim) have revo on is audi --so good advert for them


I was actually being sarcastic hence the smileys.

However awesome don't do their own remaps  :wink:
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: Andy on February 08, 2011, 09:39:26 pm
PDT has REVO on his own car :laugh:  have a look at the remap thread poll.

theres 3 people iirc

That's a good advert then  :signLOL:
Doesn't the owner of awesome (jim) have revo on is audi --so good advert for them


I was actually being sarcastic hence the smileys.

However awesome don't do their own remaps  :wink:
oops sorry Carl..Awesome used to do thier own custom maps for tdi,s thou as i had one done when Geoff worked thier
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: PDT on February 08, 2011, 09:43:52 pm
Our own (Daves) ED30 did have Revo stg2+ on for a while, mainly as an advert for Revo and at the time we had not developed an equivalent.

The car is now on a custom stage2 PDT map (same as Heavy D's car) and making 334bhp and 340ish ft/lb.

We did a quick audit recently and found that we have tuned over 1200 cars in the last 4 years at our workshop near Newcastle and supplied over 3000 individual tuned software versions to our dealers and other tuners that use us for their map files, infact many people will have a PDT map on their car without knowing it.

As far as someone mentioning stories regarding 'service and conduct' then they are probably just that, stories. We have a huge customer base which is constantly growing, we did have an issue with a local 'rival' company that started up just down the road from us and their method of gaining business was to spread malicious rumour and mistruths, even making up fake reviews on some of the forums that we used, however most people saw through this.

My advice is to take notice of the people that have used our products and services and you wont go far wrong. Our ECU software guy (Dave) spends a lot of time working for various other tuners, and supports customers in over 36 countries so he is always stupidly busy, at the moment he is on his way down to London to help finish a map for a diesel thats competing in this years BTCC, thats after spending 8 hours today in the workshop on the dyno, we are in the process of taking on more staff to take away a lot of his work load and hopefully this will help out with the everyday customer service side of things.

We offer tech support and customer contact options (phone and email) from 10am -10pm 7 days a week, not many other tuners can offer this but we will do our best to continue to invest so that we can keep this service open so if anyone has any questions or comments, feel free to call or email us.

Frank@PDT    
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: vRS Carl on February 08, 2011, 09:44:50 pm
PDT has REVO on his own car :laugh:  have a look at the remap thread poll.

theres 3 people iirc

That's a good advert then  :signLOL:
Doesn't the owner of awesome (jim) have revo on is audi --so good advert for them


I was actually being sarcastic hence the smileys.

However awesome don't do their own remaps  :wink:
oops sorry Carl..Awesome used to do thier own custom maps for tdi,s thou as i had one done when Geoff worked thier

No worries mate  :drinking:
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: heavyd on February 09, 2011, 01:32:12 am
Welll.....
I've had superchips stage 1,2,3, revo stage 2+, and am now onto Daves stage 2 file.
I can honestly say I prefer it out of the other 2.
The superchips seemed to take too long to to come onto boost and too laggy, the revo came in late, and just gave a sudden surge of power, giving loads of wheelspin, was good, but considering the price inc the sps, and the engine light kept coming on with it. I go a refund.
Whereas the custom PDT map seems a lot more driveable, and has power lower down the rev range, and dont feel the lag, and also keeps pulling until the redline
I have loads of RR graphs now of the other 2 brands, and its by far better than the superchips, it holds the torque much better, as superchips backs straight off as soon as it has peaked, whereas this one stays constant. Personally, I think Revo stage 2+ is too much for a front wheel drive car withotl an LSD, but thats just my opinion.
I was dubious about moving away from the big names, but for the price, you cant go wrong. There was another member on here that had a stage 2+ file for his K03 that was there when I was, and that made good power aswell.
If its a K04 turbo'd car, youre  welcome to have a test drive.

I think the reason he had revo on his car was the fact that most revo dealers have revo software on their car, probably a freebie, plus theres another 3 revo dealers in the area, and if people are after a revo remap on their car, it makes sense for him to have some advertising on here
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: Hedge on February 09, 2011, 06:43:42 am

I have loads of RR graphs now of the other 2 brands, and its by far better than the superchips, it holds the torque much better, as superchips backs straight off as soon as it has peaked, whereas this one stays constant.

This is my Superchips stage 3 graph.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FCar%2FGolf%2FBluefinSt3edited.jpg&hash=98718a048807779f95940bd1ac0d618040fd8852)

I would say it is fairly healthy without any backing off anywhere.  :confused:
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: heavyd on February 09, 2011, 09:47:15 am
I'm just giving my opinion on my own car. The torque on mine should be a little higher, but the logs show that I am getting a fuel cut at 3000rpm which is where I should be making peak torque. If you lookat the torque curve below, the pdt map holds the torque steadily compared to the bluefin.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb150%2Fheavyd123%2FPicture.jpg&hash=4ed9c74f78265fe61ddcb5c10a4cf1d31e5cc42a)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb150%2Fheavyd123%2Feccff641.jpg&hash=90524cbab99433bcb082597642637097a3bfc6bd)
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: PDT on February 09, 2011, 02:54:30 pm
on your last screenshot Dom, you didnt blank off the reg numbers, but did in the first one  :wink:
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: damoegan on February 09, 2011, 07:47:57 pm
This is my Superchips stage 3 graph.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FCar%2FGolf%2FBluefinSt3edited.jpg&hash=98718a048807779f95940bd1ac0d618040fd8852)

I would say it is fairly healthy without any backing off anywhere.  :confused:

Thats a great looking graph but very low numbers for stage 3.....
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: Hedge on February 09, 2011, 08:02:50 pm
This is my Superchips stage 3 graph.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FCar%2FGolf%2FBluefinSt3edited.jpg&hash=98718a048807779f95940bd1ac0d618040fd8852)

I would say it is fairly healthy without any backing off anywhere.  :confused:

Thats a great looking graph but very low numbers for stage 3.....

Actually on the day it was comparable in bhp to some Revo stage 2+ cars on the same dyno. :wink:

Yes it's a bit low on torque in comparison but the end of the day just how much do you want to try and put through the front wheels.
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: vRS Carl on February 09, 2011, 08:03:53 pm
Having been in the car I can assure you those numbers may "low" on the dyne but on the road that car flew.

Peak numbers are just for pub talk. I've embarresed quite a few cars with a lot more bhp than me.
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: Janner_Sy on February 09, 2011, 08:12:43 pm
the key thing is this was JKMs dyno not superchips or AMDs so figures are not inflated.  And as said by Ian, it was in amongst the REVO stage 2+ cars highest ever stage 2+ iirc on JKM'S rollers was 330Hp
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: rich83 on February 09, 2011, 08:17:26 pm
the key thing is this was JKMs dyno not superchips or AMDs so figures are not inflated.  And as said by Ian, it was in amongst the REVO stage 2+ cars highest ever stage 2+ iirc on JKM'S rollers was 330Hp

I was going to say... JKMs read fairly true! Hedge.. that power graph is A-Mazingly smooth :congrats:
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: Hedge on February 09, 2011, 08:24:17 pm
the key thing is this was JKMs dyno not superchips or AMDs so figures are not inflated.  And as said by Ian, it was in amongst the REVO stage 2+ cars highest ever stage 2+ iirc on JKM'S rollers was 330Hp

I was going to say... JKMs read fairly true! Hedge.. that power graph is A-Mazingly smooth :congrats:

Thing is it was at Surrey Rolling Road.....  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: rich83 on February 09, 2011, 08:26:14 pm
Oops... same make of RR though.
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: damoegan on February 09, 2011, 08:29:04 pm
Oops... same make of RR though.

Same as PDT, RS Tuning and many many others  :wink:
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: Janner_Sy on February 09, 2011, 08:29:08 pm
what i meant to say was thats a Dyno Dynamics rolling road and not the high reading alternatives like MAHA or Dastek....
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: Janner_Sy on February 09, 2011, 08:29:55 pm
Oops... same make of RR though.

Same as PDT, RS Tuning and many many others  :wink:
same rollers, same day, same operator with comparable figures to the REVO. simple as that
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: chungster on February 09, 2011, 09:26:02 pm
In reality I reckon the SC 3 map on hedge's car had more than 327bhp that day IF he had the DSG map to allow it to rev further up. You can see the power line is still climbing when it got cut off by the auto change.

So imo it could have achieved 335/340bhp at something nearer 7k rpm.

Still the map on the car looks good tho per that dyno run.
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: PDT on February 09, 2011, 09:41:17 pm
In reality I reckon the SC 3 map on hedge's car had more than 327bhp that day IF he had the DSG map to allow it to rev further up. You can see the power line is still climbing when it got cut off by the auto change.

So imo it could have achieved 335/340bhp at something nearer 7k rpm.

Still the map on the car looks good tho per that dyno run.


Very true, we had the exact same issue with Heavyd's car, shifted far too early :sad1:
Title: Re: Has anyone got a PDT map??
Post by: heavyd on February 10, 2011, 12:32:58 am
In reality I reckon the SC 3 map on hedge's car had more than 327bhp that day IF he had the DSG map to allow it to rev further up. You can see the power line is still climbing when it got cut off by the auto change.

So imo it could have achieved 335/340bhp at something nearer 7k rpm.

Still the map on the car looks good tho per that dyno run.

I smell a Revo DSG group buy coming on :popcornsoda:
Nice graph Hedge :happy2: