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All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Track Day Technical => Topic started by: Daemon on February 10, 2011, 03:50:40 pm

Title: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: Daemon on February 10, 2011, 03:50:40 pm
Hi guys,

So I bought the bilstein b16 coilover kit wich I think is  :love:  but now I need some adjustable front top mounts to get some negative camber. The only ones I can buy in my country are KW's but I think they wont fit because KW's have an smaller spring on the clubsports.I see that Hurdy has some on his bilsteins but I cant find what brand they are  :ashamed:

Are there any other brands that will fit bilsteins?

Thank's
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: Daemon on February 15, 2011, 03:03:41 pm
Anyone??  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: laurent.d on February 15, 2011, 05:44:32 pm
Bilstein are upside down designed (like AST, Ohlins) coilover the upper shaft is pretty bulky.

I was considering Ohlins Road and track coilover (since I find out that spring are not adustable for MKV platform) and I asked a company to design custom adjustable top mount for those coilover.
After some research they told me it wasn't possible as the upper shaft is too big and there is no room enought for adjustability.

It is possible with KW because their shaft is much thinner
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: tony_danza on February 16, 2011, 09:54:31 am
AST make topmounts for use with other people's suspension. It's custom made to order, but very good stuff. You'd have to email/ring them.
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: vRSAlex on February 22, 2011, 08:39:36 pm
H+R also do adjustabe top mounts to use with standard dampers.
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: Daemon on February 24, 2011, 05:25:02 pm
Thank's a lot that is some good info. I think I will go with TT arms or the h&r top mounts
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: Carrera2RS on March 03, 2011, 10:24:13 pm
Hi guys,

So I bought the bilstein b16 coilover kit wich I think is  :love:  but now I need some adjustable front top mounts to get some negative camber. The only ones I can buy in my country are KW's but I think they wont fit because KW's have an smaller spring on the clubsports.I see that Hurdy has some on his bilsteins but I cant find what brand they are  :ashamed:

Are there any other brands that will fit bilsteins?

Thank's

What settings and ride heights are you at for the road. I am 335F, 320R (about to be 325R) and 4F, FR and in the process of experimenting. I do find the suspension a little crashy to be honest. I have yet to experiment with tyre pressures
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: the bruce on July 09, 2011, 03:49:43 pm
Anyone tried the H2Sport?

 :drinking:
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: RobH on July 31, 2012, 01:00:11 pm
Update needed did anyone fit top mounts to there bilstiens?
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: h4rdy on August 10, 2012, 09:28:31 am
I enquired about top mounts with my B14's but they soooo expensive I just didn't bother.

More stuff to fiddle with that I know nothing about.

Thats why I stuck to B14.

Alex has the solution though.
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: DFish on August 10, 2012, 01:47:29 pm
I looked at the ground controls when I have mine installed recently, just couldn't afford the $$$'s at the time.

FIsh
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: h4rdy on August 10, 2012, 03:03:41 pm
Take a look at Alex's build thread.

I think he has some alongside TfsiMike.
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 10, 2012, 03:18:05 pm
Take a look at Alex's build thread.

I think he has some alongside TfsiMike.

Mine are sat in customs  :sad1:
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: the bruce on August 10, 2012, 03:27:45 pm
H&R make two kinds of adjustable top mounts. One for 60 mm race springs
and one for the use with stock diameter springs (about 80 mm on top).
Keep care to get the correct mounts which match your springs !!!

To make things even more complicated there are older versions and since
late 2011 a newer one which is praised to be less noisy:


old:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg155.imageshack.us%2Fimg155%2F3127%2Fdsc004276lm1.jpg&hash=20295d5c2f07355979736b0151ef52f6592a5ed5)

new 2011:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abload.de%2Fimg%2F550969_41620204508066xwe6q.jpg&hash=c0229e432d27da2630fdbb6bee9694fd76981099)


The blue color will match blue Bilstein/Sachs/Driver Gear/VWR springs nicely,
but you won't see much of them.  :wink:
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: h4rdy on August 10, 2012, 03:28:53 pm
Take a look at Alex's build thread.

I think he has some alongside TfsiMike.

Mine are sat in customs  :sad1:

Still? They will be a two minute walk from my desk :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: h4rdy on August 10, 2012, 03:29:53 pm
H&R make two kinds of adjustable top mounts. One for 60 mm race springs
and one for the use with stock diameter springs (about 80 mm on top).
Keep care to get the correct mounts which match your springs !!!

To make things even more complicated there are older versions and since
late 2011 a newer one which is praised to be less noisy:


old:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg155.imageshack.us%2Fimg155%2F3127%2Fdsc004276lm1.jpg&hash=20295d5c2f07355979736b0151ef52f6592a5ed5)

new 2011:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abload.de%2Fimg%2F550969_41620204508066xwe6q.jpg&hash=c0229e432d27da2630fdbb6bee9694fd76981099)


The blue color will match blue Bilstein springs nicely.  :wink:

I want the 2011 ones?

Will they fit my B14's and how much?
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: DFish on August 10, 2012, 03:38:13 pm
Screw 14's do they fit 16's.  :wink:

Fish
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 10, 2012, 03:39:15 pm
Take a look at Alex's build thread.

I think he has some alongside TfsiMike.

Mine are sat in customs  :sad1:

Still? They will be a two minute walk from my desk :evilgrin:

 :fighting: :fighting:
Title: Re: Bilstein B16 on adjustable top mounts
Post by: the bruce on August 10, 2012, 05:34:20 pm
I want the 2011 ones?

You want the 2011 stock spring ones. Your Bilstein B14 springs are made to work
with stock mounts.

Will they fit my B14's and how much?

Yes, they will. In Germany they are about 400,-- €. Unfortunately H&R made them more
expensive than it's predecessors.
Keep in mind you will notice some increase in harshness. They still have no rubber inside.