MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: StephenED30 on February 12, 2011, 06:15:48 pm
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Need a bit of help if possible, have installed Bluetooth phone kit today and went to code it got the following.
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H07 0052
Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 100907F1001462
Coding: ED817F064006020003
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3065F88ADAA5
2 Faults Found:
00469 - Infotainment Databus in Single Wire Operation
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 227
Reset counter: 219
Mileage: 37569 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 05:00:50
01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 219
Mileage: 37569 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 05:00:54
Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 C HW: 1T0 035 680 C
Component: RNS-MID H04 2680
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7J9320057
Coding: 080100400100001200
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 2E59E6F2C091
2 Faults Found:
00859 - Line-Output; Front Right
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 4
Mileage: 37568 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 05:07:32
01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 219
Mileage: 37569 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 05:07:27
Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 C HW: 1T0 035 680 C
Component: RNS-MID H04 2680
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7J9320057
Coding: 080100400100001200
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 2E59E6F2C091
2 Faults Found:
00859 - Line-Output; Front Right
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 4
Mileage: 37568 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 05:07:32
01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 219
Mileage: 37569 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 05:07:27
Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached
Anybody have any ideas.
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Which phone kit is it model number and what wiring loom have you used??
Cheers
Darren
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This one.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,23177.0.html
Used the wiring loom supplied + parts from SteveP
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Thats the one I have in mine, so upto now what have you done in the way of wiring, Is Steve's loom a plug and play? or one that needs the wires crimping into the headunit loom?
Darren
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Steve’s loom was just a 2 wire plug in to the green connector for the microphone, pins 1 and 7, microphone in; all the grey wires were marked with the pin numbers. The only two that were not marked were for the microphone out low these traced back to the Bluetooth module under the driver’s seat, pins 11 and 12. Its only this or the can bus wiring high and low the wrong way around but I’m sure its right. :scared:
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That's sounds like the original loom is missing one or more of the 12v, earth or CAN Hi / Low connections.
How did you connect into the power and can connections on the quadlock connector?
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You've got a break in the CAN wires on the infotainment Bus, likely caused by when you've made the connection to the telephone. You'll need to sort that first as the Gateway won't 'see' the Telephone if the CAN isn't connected.
The line output I would say is possibly a speaker wire disturbed during the install.
When you made the connections were you referring to the sticker on the headunit?
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Can high pin 9 orange/lilac
Can low pin 10 orange/brown
Earth pin 12 brown
power either pin 15 or 16 red
That should be fine, make sure the can high and low is twisted together upto the quadlock otherwise you may get communication problems
Darren
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Eddie supplied the wire connector and it was just take out
Remove Earth Wire (Pin 12) from Radio Housing Plug and insert into PIN2 on plug
Remove Power Wire (Pin 15) from Radio Housing Plug and insert into PIN1 on plug
Remove CAN Hi Wire (Pin9) from Radio Housing Plug and insert into PIN3 on plug
Remove CAN Lo wire (pin10) from Radio Housing Plug and insert into PIN4 on plug
This was already wired into the loom, there were 2 wires left which I was not sure about but had to go into the green plug as they were the right size pins. These were pin 4 and pin 9, microphone out. Too dark now, but will take pictures tomorrow. Thanks for the help guys.
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Sounds like you're along the right lines.
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Have been out this morning and double checked the wiring and it is wired correctly for can high and can low, the + and – are in the correct place and as far as I can tell all the wiring in the green plug is correct. Have now disconnected all the wiring that I have fitted so am now back to where I was before fitting the Bluetooth kit. Think I am going to have to remove all the wiring and check through the connections. Not today as its persistently raining. :fighting:
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Right, with everything to do with the Bluetooth disconnected and VCDS on the car after clearing the fault codes it comes back with this:
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
Will remove the wiring loom from the car for the Bluetooth and check all the connections next. :confused:
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I think you ought to be able to check the cable without removing it to be honest.
I'd start in the region of the headunit end and make sure the pass through connections are intact and correct. Once you've done that use a multimeter to check from the large (telephone) plug back to the respective pin at the headunit end.
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Edd has been in contact about this and has pointed me in the direction of the connections that he made, so will start there first. Have left the car so that I can just remove the dash panel and get to the loom through there as it will be quicker than removing the sat/nav. :happy2:
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Right this is where the connections are going from the green plug on the back of the sat/nav.
Green plug number BT Plug under driver’s seat (Blue)
1 Mic -
2 Empty
3 Empty
4 12
5 3
6 9
7 Mic +
8 Empty
9 11
10 16
11 4
12 8
Plug split into loom (Terminals removed from existing loom)
Edd’s connector BT Plug under driver’s seat (Blue)
1 1 Power
2 2 Earth
3 18 Can High
4 17 Can Low
All connections are good and have continuity.
Do I need to move some of the connections around as the grey wires are marked with the pin numbers for going in to the green plug,
but checking here
http://www.my-gti.com/173/volkswagen-skoda-bluetooth-pinouts
these numbers do not seam to tie up. :scared:
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I have -
1 V+ to pin 16
2 V- to pin 12
3 Telephone ON
8 Audio LF Signal out + connected to be connected to pin 12 con 3
9 Audio LF Signal Out - connected to be connected to pin 6 con 3
10 Screening Term 31
11 Mic in +
12 Mic in -
15 K Line
16 Mute
17 CAN Hi to pin 9
18 CAN Lo to pin 10
37 Switched positive term for phone charging
39 Term 31 -ve
41 Interface to mob phone Term 30
42 Mic Out +
43 Mic out -
44 Screening Term 31
45 Audio LF Sig input +
46 Audio LF Sig Input -
47 Wakeup lead to phone bracket
49 Serial Tx comms with tele bracket +ve
50 Serial Tx comms with tele bracket -ve
51 Serial Rx comms with tele bracket +ve
52 Serial Rx comms with tele bracket -ve
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Thanks for all the help so far, I ended up buying this
http://cgi.ebay.pl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180605717424
as could not figure out the wiring. When I checked this to the loom I had it turned out that the existing loom only had a plug with 2 rows of connections on where the one from e-bay had 3, only 1 wire on the third row at position 41 Interface to mob phone Term 30 (may be wrong but will check later). Have now fitted the new loom into the car and have
Address 77: Telephone Labels: 3C0-035-730.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 730 C HW: 5N0 035 730 C
Component: J412 8506
Revision: 00019000 Serial number: 0000A07751228
Coding: 0021141
Shop #: WSC 00152 210 91233
VCID: 285510EAE275
1 Fault Found:
01524 - Antenna for Telephone
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 233
Mileage: 37803 km
Time Indication: 0
Did some recoding and now have this
Address 77: Telephone Labels: 3C0-035-730.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 730 C HW: 5N0 035 730 C
Component: J412 8506
Revision: 00019000 Serial number: 0000A07751228
Coding: 0013241
Shop #: WSC 00152 210 91233
VCID: 285510EAE275
Still have a couple of minor problems in that when I turn the ignition on the highline display will display Telefone and I can only transfer 1 name to the car from the phone address book but it will read all the messages. And on the phone screen on the RNS510 I have preset 1 as Mobile Box and cannot seem to change it in any of the settings.
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And on the phone screen on the RNS510 I have preset 1 as Mobile Box and cannot seem to change it in any of the settings.
I have that on my 7P6 phone controller. I think it's a feature :wink:
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Thanks for that, but can’t see the point of making it so that you cannot edit it like the rest. :happy2:
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What phone you using Steven? the preset 1 is for the voice mail and can be preset with your chosen number by pressing setup and going into the telephone and then speed dial.
Darren
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Hi Darren, just a old Samsung Tocco (SGH-F480). Just set Mobil Box so I can just phone home.
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Have now played with the phone settings and copied the address book to the sim card, gone to car and updated contacts and now have 45 names to scroll through. Just need to get the star button working correctly now, when I press it, it comes up on the RNS 510 as language not supported, must be to do with the coding? :confused:
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Been a while since I have done anything to this so this is an update. Have played with a few things and have now got the voice dialling to work when I press the star button on the steering wheel. Also have managed to get the star button on the sat/nav to work so that I can program the nav by saying new destination, media, radio etc. What I want to know is why the steering wheel star button when pressed will not control the sat/nav. If I press the star button on the sat/nav I can control everything. Hope this all makes sense.
Coding is as follows
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AQ HW: 1K0 953 549 AQ
Component: J0527 036 0070
Coding: 0013142
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 8103ED4EA199
Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0010
No fault code found.
Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 C HW: 1T0 035 680 C
Component: RNS-MID H04 2680
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7J9320057
Coding: 080100420100001000
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 2E59E6F2C087
No fault code found.
Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 C HW: 1T0 035 680 C
Component: RNS-MID H04 2680
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7J9320057
Coding: 080100420100001000
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 2E59E6F2C087
No fault code found.
Address 77: Telephone Labels: 3C0-035-730.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 730 C HW: 5N0 035 730 C
Component: J412 8506
Revision: 00019000 Serial number: 0000A07751228
Coding: 0013242
Shop #: WSC 00152 210 91233
VCID: 285510EAE263
No fault code found.
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Try - 0013202 in 77.
It might need tweaking again but I'm working from a different label file at the moment. :happy2:
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Thanks for that Stu. Will give it a try a bit later. Updated the firmware from 2680 to 2760 and have now got a different problem to solve, reverse camera has stopped working.
Monday,25,April,2011,19:33:31:54527
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.4
Data version: 20110418
Address 37: Navigation Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Control Module Part Number: 1T0 035 680 C HW: 1T0 035 680 C
Component and/or Version: RNS-MID H04 2760
Software Coding: 080100420100001000
Work Shop Code: WSC 05314 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------ ()
VCID: 2E59E6F2C087
1 Fault Found:
02873 - Control Module for Back-Up Camera (J772)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 54
Mileage: 39607 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 19:29:59
Just sent a PM to SteveP about it as I’m sure someone on here has had the same problem, one step forward and one back.
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Have you got the reverse camera coded on the can gateway??
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Took this at the last scan
Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72 77
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8W120078 Mileage: 39600km/24606miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
Have cleared all of the faults and the one with the camera is the only one that keeps coming back.
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Where did you get the firmware from?
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Link from here,
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,23779.0.html
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Does the reverse camera have a control module? You might need to change thlong coding to Backup Camera (low) installed
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It’s installed as per this guide,
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,10027.0.html
been no problem at all up until I did the firmware update. Have now taken the √ from the box under the 37 nav menu and fault code is now gone. Will see if I can check fuses tomorrow just in case one has blown, don’t see how though. Thanks for all the help. :happy2:
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Firmware updates can remove coding.
This is the part I'm referring to
Open the Navigation (37) controller and select coding, then long coding helper, then in the forth block set bit 6 to on (shown as "Backup Camera Low"), close the long coding and saving the new coding. Reboot the RNS-510 by pressing the "<" & ">" & "i" button.
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Thanks Alex, that’s where I have removed the √ from, the reverse camera is just showing a fault with the box √ and not displaying on the sat/nav. Hope that makes sense.
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Ah I get ya. Interesting that. It could be a bug in the firmware thats causing that. There was a bug in 3810 that wouldnt let me code it to the gateway!