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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: vRS Carl on February 14, 2011, 06:53:30 pm
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When you get on the bus to go to work, when it seems like everyone else is living off of the dole, but never the less you still power through.
At the end of the month you receive your wage, only to find about 20% of it has been deducted as tax to fund the bankers new Bentley.
You would like to drive to work but due to the crippled economy, VAT rise, budget cuts and the insane rise in fuel prices, your car is modestly parked on your drive way.
Whilst on the bus you spot an incident involving a few Chavs at the back who have started a mini fire on the back seat. Being the good citizen you are you decide to ring the police, but due to job cuts in the public sector the phone just continues to ring.
So you just quietly sit at the front of the bus waiting to get off near your work.
But then an old woman steps on and insists you move and make way for her. Despite your taxes going on the old lady's free bus pass, you paying £4 for your journey and the fact that she is getting off in three stops, you are still obliged to let her sit down!
This is David Cameron's big society!!
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Its great isnt it.... and guess what, its gonna get worse. Just make sure you take a tub of lube everywhere you go... because the inevitable will happen!
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Cameron is a ****. All those wanting the grass that was greener will come to see this soon enough. I don't object to the change of Government as such, more so him. I despise the fact the election was decided by the bloody media, more so Murdoch's agenda.
Banks, hmm.. Gordo pulled a shrewd move IMO that will pay off in time. Remember "we" hold shares in the few banks we had to buy out (you can't condemn them all) and those shares bought for a fraction of their value will mature into much more. "We're" getting a share of profits and when that % is sold back to the banks "we" will see a massive windfall.
Pensioners hopefully have paid their taxes and time to deserve that free busride, I'd never begrudge anyone a seat being fit and able.
The rest you have a point on. We'll suffer and suffer until we break and demand change, then someone else will have to spend years undoing everything. That'll cost even more.
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It wasn't mine Tony.
I saw it on Sickipedia of all places and thought it was quite amusing.
I wouldnt begrudge an OAP/Woman/Disabled person my seat as that's how I was brought up. :happy2:
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Ahh, I didn't think it seemed like your words somehow.
Cameron's still a c*** though :signLOL:
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Couldn't agree more :laugh:
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Did you see the other one from Sickipedia earlier
"what does David Cameron have in common with German pornstars mouth?
They are both full of s***"
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id vote Cameron again I agree hes a smug looking pr!ck but hes doing the things labour never had the guts to do.
i love the fact that he has hit into the benefits fraudsters and spongers. Also they are refusing to allow europe to enforce us to give prisoners votes. I dont doubt he'll lose that one in the high courts, but that will result in us exiting the Human rights act which will be huge step forward in getting rid of this ridiculous culture of blame that it has spawned. You cant fart thesedays without requiring a risk assessment for fear of being liable for damages.
I do think hes gone to far with the defence cuts though.
If labour stayed in power they would still have to be making cuts left right and center just as Cameron has been, but they would be borrowing money to pay for all the dole queue's giro and benefits still.
heres you alternative, i think hes even worse than brown. id maybe consider voting his brother if he was labour leader, he seemed like a 'normal' individual.
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id vote Cameron again I agree hes a smug looking pr!ck but hes doing the things labour never had the guts to do.
i love the fact that he has hit into the benefits fraudsters and spongers. Also they are refusing to allow europe to enforce us to give prisoners votes. I dont doubt he'll lose that one in the high courts, but that will result in us exiting the Human rights act which will be huge step forward in getting rid of this ridiculous culture of blame that it has spawned. You cant fart thesedays without requiring a risk assessment for fear of being liable for damages.
I do think hes gone to far with the defence cuts though.
If labour stayed in power they would still have to be making cuts left right and center just as Cameron has been, but they would be borrowing money to pay for all the dole queue's giro and benefits still.
heres you alternative, i think hes even worse than brown. id maybe consider voting his brother if he was labour leader, he seemed like a 'normal' individual.
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I 100% agree on everything youve said, hes had to make big cuts but if its good for the country in the long run then everyone will just have to deal with it.
Labour are a complete joke in my eyes they pretty much f**ked everything up while they were in power and it would only be getting worse if tey were still in.
This counrty deffinatly needs to start turning a blind eye to the EU muppets that are obsessed with human rights.
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Hey we have all seen Equilibrium and Demolition man right???
Father and Dr Cocteau are coming :scared: :scared:
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The labour support the lazy (I have used this term as there are some people that need help in society) and provide them with everything they need to have a life equivalent to those that work is part of the reason we ended up with such a crippled economy, if you ignore the large amount of money that was borrowed for the banking crisis the largest expenditure in this country is the welfare state and there are always figures being banded around that imply 40-50% of that could be saved by removing fraud, red tape and getting those that could to start working.
Its a little bit Marxis's but I feel that able bodied people on benefits should be given community service to tidy up the country litter picking cleaning graffiti since our taxes have to be used to pay a private contractor to do these jobs and pay for someone else to sit on their bum.
As mentioned earlier the bail-out money at least got us shares in the banks, my only concern is will we sell the shares at the right time for the country or will we throw the opportunity away. And if we do as a country profit from the sale will we see a return to the lower VAT and reduced duty and increased public services or will it dissapear into a war chest while the general public get bleed dry in taxes and duty.
I think I might leave it there :sick:
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I have never bothered to vote in all my years, so i cant really moan about who is in power, my early years were shaped by my father being on strike half his working life, trying to fight with Thatcher, so the Conservatives dont quite hold a place in my heart. But i have to say i agree 100% in them making drastic cuts.
I think all of our society should be feeling this pain. To teach us all a lesson. For the last 8 or 9 years every advert on tele was about credit cards, it was the norm to carry 7 or 8 of them paying off one with the other, basically nearly every man and his dog spending money they didn't have. But of course we all felt very rich as our property prices were sky rocketing. every other program on tele was a property development program telling us to paint our walls cream for a 50,000 squid prophet on a quick sale.
The labour goverment should have cooled down this growth to prevent going over the edge like we did, but they were happy to ride the crest of the wave. :fighting:
Look after the vunerable in our society, and bring on the pain for the rest of us i say. And hopefully in 10 years when we start to grow fast again we might all think twice about buying BMW with a credit card because our neighbour who works in Tesco's has just bought a Merc. :scared:
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Why should we all feel the pain?, you know some people actually are not responsible for this mess!
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Why should we all feel the pain?, you know some people actually are not responsible for this mess!
Yep i count myself as one of them, but we are all responsible when it comes to stopping it happen. I know next time when my friends start borrowing themselves into a hole i will be pointing out to them how stupid they are being. And i wont be moaning if the goverment puts up property tax to cool things down, where i might have moaned if i was not effected by the cuts this time round.
I am very lucky, i have kept my very good job and can still lead a good life. But my property is worth less now than what i paid for it, my endowment's have no doubt took a big hit, the council have cut right back on services i took for granted around my home, but i still feel some responsability for the situation we are all in. :happy2:
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Cameron & his crew telling everyone to tighten there belts etc & everything we buy is going through the roof & that smug bast**d is sitting on a personal fortune of over 30 million!!!!!!!!. All politicians should try & live in the real world like the people who vote for them.Trouble with them is most of them come from very rich backgrounds & have no idea the true cost of paying for thing like we all have to do. :mad:
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well the Government have at last made a decent appointment in Larry the cat who is chief rat catcher, so if i was Nick Clegg i'd be worried :party:
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Wow!! A political discussion on this forum! I don't think I've ever read one here before.
Those who have a strong belief in one political party over another one will never reach agreement about whose fault it is etc. I think it's always a matter of choosing the lesser of two (or three?) evils. Like TC I never voted for years but I did vote for Cameron this time and have no regrets. I think the LibDems are keeping them honest (just!) and I don't have faith in how Labour would have handled the current situation if they were in power, nor the LibDems.
Whoever is in political power we ain't ever going to be that happy. I tend to rather selfishly carry on living in my own bubble and not let myself get stressed by what's going on or whose fault it might be. Within my bubble I treat others as I would wish to be treated myself, which means I try to be a good human being and help those around me.
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I've probably told this story before but one of the directors of my limited company was a true gentleman called Richard Cooper-Driver, R.I.P., (and yes he was a car enthusiast and his father had raced old Bentleys). Educated at public school and Cambridge, he was a true blue Tory and he religiously read the newspapers and listened to the news every single day and had strong opinions. He suddenly became ill with Leukemia and I went to visit him at St.Thomas's hospital. He had a private room and the most stupendous view of the Houses of Parliament across the river. When I commented on the view and joked that now he could see where it was all going on, he said: "You know, Robin, all that interest I've had in politics now means diddlysquat".
I'm not suggesting that no-one should take an interest but only to keep it all in perspective and not get wound up.
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Wow!! A political discussion on this forum! I don't think I've ever read one here before.
Those who have a strong belief in one political party over another one will never reach agreement about whose fault it is etc. I think it's always a matter of choosing the lesser of two (or three?) evils. Like TC I never voted for years but I did vote for Cameron this time and have no regrets. I think the LibDems are keeping them honest (just!) and I don't have faith in how Labour would have handled the current situation if they were in power, nor the LibDems.
Whoever is in political power we ain't ever going to be that happy. I tend to rather selfishly carry on living in my own bubble and not let myself get stressed by what's going on or whose fault it might be. Within my bubble I treat others as I would wish to be treated myself, which means I try to be a good human being and help those around me.
..........i do go along with most of this Robin & '' yes'' treat others as i would like/expect to be treated BUT it makes my p**s boil when people tell me it's tough & you won't get a pay rise this year & my take home pay is worth less & less & these rich MP's are not effected by any of it. I bet not one of them will refuse there expence account to help repay the defecit quicker?.
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Completely agree with the comment about them needing to live in the real world to appreciate the affect there decisions have on real people, some examples would be:
Commuting between there house and place of work under there own finances from the wage they get paid for said job (not expenses) would also force some of them to use public transport so they can appreciate the terrible state that most of it is in.
Stay in hotels in London or B&B's rather than buying an overly expensive house on expenses (giving money to local businesses and reducing unnecessary cost to tax payer and not profiteering.
Its a good philosophy Robin and im sure most of us are or want to be in the same place, I certainly used to bubble along happily not caring but I find I am increasingly enraged by the whole thing either the amount of taxation on everything and the messed up housing market with years of over inflated prices due to easy credit and lending restrictions which means I now cant get a mortgage without saving up £30k is very infuriating! :fighting:
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The MPs are on around 60k per year, about the same as most mid range company executives would be on. The PM is on £142k per year iirc. Now considering his job and role i think he should be on a lot more when you consider what other CEO's of many companies etc are on. Ultimately hes in charge of running the country after all
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..........i do go along with most of this Robin & '' yes'' treat others as i would like/expect to be treated BUT it makes my p**s boil when people tell me it's tough & you won't get a pay rise this year & my take home pay is worth less & less & these rich MP's are not effected by any of it. I bet not one of them will refuse there expence account to help repay the defecit quicker?.
....Although I am very lucky and am less effected than you and many others I do appreciate your predicament. Through it all though it's helpful to understand that no matter how well off you are, there'll always be those who are better off, be it materially or in health. And also always those who are worse off. Boiling your piss hurts you more than anyone else. There are things which make my piss boil too but not politics - It's things like registered blind people having to pay a TV licence even if reduced, the shocking treatment of some of those leaving the armed services, etc.
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..........i do go along with most of this Robin & '' yes'' treat others as i would like/expect to be treated BUT it makes my p**s boil when people tell me it's tough & you won't get a pay rise this year & my take home pay is worth less & less & these rich MP's are not effected by any of it. I bet not one of them will refuse there expence account to help repay the defecit quicker?.
....Although I am very lucky and am less effected than you and many others I do appreciate your predicament. Through it all though it's helpful to understand that no matter how well off you are, there'll always be those who are better off, be it materially or in health. And also always those who are worse off. Boiling your piss hurts you more than anyone else. There are things which make my piss boil too but not politics - It's things like registered blind people having to pay a TV licence even if reduced, the shocking treatment of some of those leaving the armed services, etc.
....... :smiley: :happy2: :congrats: :congrats:
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The MPs are on around 60k per year, about the same as most mid range company executives would be on. The PM is on £142k per year iirc. Now considering his job and role i think he should be on a lot more when you consider what other CEO's of many companies etc are on. Ultimately hes in charge of running the country after all
....Agreed. And it's a 24/7 job too with enormous pressures. Extremely physically demanding and a very diminished private life. Even risk of being shot at or rotten eggs/tomatoes thrown at you. Whoever is Prime Minister is the figurehead and the one whom the populus view as responsible for most of their grievances. Again, I'm not saying don't get angry or don't express your views - It is a democracy, or as close to one as we can get.
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I agree cuts have to be made and we'll all benefit further down the line... just how long is the line, will I see the end of it.
Lets keep it simple, if they would just drop fuel prices back 20p I'd be happier LOL
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i think if they did that they would get a huge amount of support.
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paint it like you will but...
i know someone on benefits who was given a four bedroom house in a postcode i cant afford because she pushes out kids by her unemployed husband.
she's currently pregnant with her eighth and is set to move into a new build in an even more prestigious postcode with larger houses so they can all have space.
she drives a 3 month old minivan paid for by disability allowance due to a weak pelvis from pushing the kids out and gets more per week into her bank account than i get in a whole month.
this isnt something im making up either :mad:
theres quite a few new cars in the school run car park, the owners living in very nice houses and have never worked a day in their life. Mrs cherry is good friends with one woman who has four kids, a brand new house and car and wont work as she would get less a month if she did so doesnt see the point.
like TC i dont vote, but thats because i dont see anything worth voting for not because i dont want to
and by the way, those that know me also knows that my dad is a lib dem MP..... and i dont see eye to eye with him either
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well the Government have at last made a decent appointment in Larry the cat who is chief rat catcher, so if i was Nick Clegg i'd be worried :party:
I hear the cat is a Liberal.
I hear that the cat is also an excellent ratter; one must wonder whether he will will also chase the two-legged kind.
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Don't disagree with a lot of the comments but the main gripe I have is the BS they spouted at election time and almost immediately dropped their manifesto and went on with what appears to be their true plans. Lib Dems are almost like a timid cat never mind that ratter! I don't see Cleggy doing much to keep em in check...WTF is with the wholesale of the forests and despite petition they are going ahead. They are only dropping 15% of the original planned sale, but even that is on retention following consultion which will no doubt still go through. Where will our heritage and national treasures be? In the pockets of the rich and don't forget we bailed several banking elements out which means we sunk a huge deficit into them and yet they still go relatively unregulated from huge bonuses at the top. And we ALL must suffer?
Like it means summat. And when you say the vulnerable should be taken care of I work in the social care field Nd the cuts are huge. Manchester is losing 2000 jobs. Salford is hit, an these places have some of the biggest amounts of elderly and vulnerable children about. Plus all the disability cuts affecting disability kids...expect to see a load of them be placed in care as families crumble without their support networks
:mad: rant over!!
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Too much too fast .. we're all doomed (in the voice of John Laurie / Pte Fraser from Dad's army) :scared: