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Title: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: antonis42 on February 16, 2011, 11:26:29 am
k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
http://etuners.gr/index.php?s=12&t=220 (http://etuners.gr/index.php?s=12&t=220)
tuners claim culprit was N75 valve.
english version here: http://etuners.gr/en/index.php?s=12&t=220 (http://etuners.gr/en/index.php?s=12&t=220)


Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: muckipup on February 16, 2011, 11:51:13 am
k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
http://etuners.gr/index.php?s=12&t=220 (http://etuners.gr/index.php?s=12&t=220)
tuners claim culprit was N75 valve.
english version here: http://etuners.gr/en/index.php?s=12&t=220 (http://etuners.gr/en/index.php?s=12&t=220)




Interesting read!  I also like the way these guys go forensic on a problem like CSI Athens  :happy2:
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: MPS on February 16, 2011, 12:10:04 pm
ouch... such a simple thing leads to such catastrophe!  :scared:
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: RedRobin on February 16, 2011, 12:48:33 pm
^^^^
Scary!  :scared:
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 16, 2011, 12:57:50 pm
one word (oops) i bet the guy who fitted the turbo got told off  :fighting:
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: mo on February 16, 2011, 01:17:02 pm
Something doesnt quite sit right here......
The thing i find hard to believe tho is that the ecu didnt cut the engine once max boost was exceeded.
Also doesnt the N75 just stop boost from hitting the standard wastegate, ie if the N75 fails then the spring on the wastegate will just open at the 0.6 bar or whatever its set to ?
Sounds more like a stuck wastgate to me or a dodgy map?
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: neg on February 16, 2011, 02:05:02 pm
I had a dodgy N75 once on a 1.8T - just kept causing limp mode.  Maybe its different when its working but broken off rather than just not working correctly.  Expensive mistake though.
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: mo on February 16, 2011, 02:09:36 pm
Yeah very.
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: GTIjames on February 16, 2011, 02:33:21 pm
good read, interesting on what they say about tampering with the wastegate..

i fitted for the forge ko4 actuator on mine and it must have been done up to tite as I was seeing boost hit 28-30psi and higher which eventually ended in this

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fu347%2Fjnewby99%2Fd849c550.jpg&hash=7bc4b86900f165228d1c554df4cdc76423724bbe)

was fooking quick though  :innocent:
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: Saint Steve on February 16, 2011, 02:54:45 pm
Very interesting read.  :happy2:
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: neg on February 16, 2011, 02:54:53 pm
was fooking quick though  :innocent:

 :laugh:
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: ongoing on February 16, 2011, 03:34:16 pm
good read, interesting on what they say about tampering with the wastegate..

i fitted for the forge ko4 actuator on mine and it must have been done up to tite as I was seeing boost hit 28-30psi and higher which eventually ended in this

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fu347%2Fjnewby99%2Fd849c550.jpg&hash=7bc4b86900f165228d1c554df4cdc76423724bbe)

was fooking quick though  :innocent:

Ouch that don't look good.

Bet it was quick though  :driver:
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: muckipup on February 16, 2011, 05:12:24 pm
Yeah, the first thing I thought of was a stuck actuator and my thoughts went to Hurdy and others with the Forge product. Most folks seem to have set them up carefully and sensibly though. This is the first I have heard where damage was done...nice boost levels though  :laugh:
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: danishmkvgti on February 16, 2011, 06:32:50 pm
Must be a SW fault rather than N75 fault IMO
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: Hurdy on February 16, 2011, 07:05:22 pm
Yeah, the first thing I thought of was a stuck actuator and my thoughts went to Hurdy and others with the Forge product. Most folks seem to have set them up carefully and sensibly though. This is the first I have heard where damage was done...nice boost levels though  :laugh:

Took a while to get mine set up correctly at Statllers, but although it took some time I wanted it right. Literally a single turn either way on the actuator thread with the locking nut can give poor boost or too much. :happy2:
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: edd666999 on February 16, 2011, 07:42:37 pm
thank god i replaced my n75 valve when i did the cam follower!
Title: Re: k04 upgrade on 2.0TFSI AXX gone bad
Post by: chungster on February 16, 2011, 08:51:48 pm
no mention of what boost the map was requesting then?? "very aggressive spark settings" tho.

i'm also with the view that should the N75 fail it can only run WG Actuator pressure...and hence won't do any damage. I mean N75 can easily fail on a standard road car. Are they saying that one small item failing can cause the car to run max boost of the turbo with no ECU control?

that'ss complete BS i think. There's the MAP sensor for starters..and the ECU still has the DV to use to relieve boost pressure should it exceed the requested level.  and hence the ECU will always have control unless there is a catastrophic failure of multiple control components in one go.

It's the easy way out. The map is never at fault is it (like on testing accidentally whacking boost upto 2+ bar or something)

but who knows.