MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: tony_danza on February 25, 2009, 09:55:39 am
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Well, after the farce with the custom APs I was on the hunt for new stoppers. I was either going for the VWR kit or the new AP 6pots off the Scirocco race cars (but in road spec)...
Then I got the curve ball of being offered JonnyC's wheels, so I looked at Alcons again and did some research. So, I could afford both and I've got exactly what I wanted. Turinis and sticky tyres and some serious stopping power.
Getting fitted on Friday, then they'll be bedded in on Sunday's Woodhead/Snake pass Curry Gumball.. so hopefully a final end to months of messing about and running around on knackered pads!
Got them from Regal, there was a bit of faffing around with getting them due to some delays over bells but they've kindly thrown in some rear braided hoses to sweeten it up... plus they were miles cheaper than any of the other suppliers.
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ohhhh brake porn! lovely mike!
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hee hee.
They've got their first 'real' outing at Club GTi's track day at Curborough in April, so I'll give a full review then.
Anything is going to feel better than my cooked crap at the minute, so I can't really give a good impression of their power straight away. But if someone on (good) 312mms want to do a brake test for stopping distance comparisons, that'd be cool, let me know.
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Hmmm very very nice.
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A much needed mod on any GTI in my opinion! Not only will they perform great they will look great behind the turinis
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they look :drool: :drool:
i need new brakes :sad:
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:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Am i ther only one wondering why Waitrose Lentils keep appearing in Brake posts !! :laugh:
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I'm sure as hell not eating them, so I had to find a use for the can :happy2:
I propose that all brake threads have them in from now on.
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very nice tony, like the design that doesnt have fully drilled holes or large grooves. just half U shapes,
hopefully keeps the integrity of the disc to prevent cracking?
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Yeah, the half moons have been their version of grooved for a while, much less chance of cracking as you say.
AP have moved to this design now too, so there must be something in it?
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Lets hope these go on no probs 8) 8) Are you leaving the Callies silver MR track slag. :innocent:
And i will gladley do a brake comparison with you as its something i would really like to know. :drinking:
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I have been assured and assured they bolt straight on, plus there's plenty of clearance behind the Speedlines too.
Can't be bothered painting them red, I'll just match up the R32/S3 rears when I lay my hands on some instead. I just want them on and smashing my face into the windscreen like yesterday.
Yes, we need to get a brew and have a good listen to your 'zorst too. I'll work out a crude, non scientific test plan - something involving a sprayed line and a trundle wheel maybe?
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Nice lentils there tony, brakes are ok too :drool: :grin:
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I have been assured and assured they bolt straight on, plus there's plenty of clearance behind the Speedlines too.
Can't be bothered painting them red, I'll just match up the R32/S3 rears when I lay my hands on some instead. I just want them on and smashing my face into the windscreen like yesterday.
Yes, we need to get a brew and have a good listen to your 'zorst too. I'll work out a crude, non scientific test plan - something involving a sprayed line and a trundle wheel maybe?
Yeh give us a shout when there on, i am heading your way soon visiting MR Votex maybe :wink:
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LOL - what's all the MRs?
My day off is Thursday next week, so if it happens to be then you can call in to mine if you like.
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LOL - what's all the MRs?
My day off is Thursday next week, so if it happens to be then you can call in to mine if you like.
I call everybody MR usually followed with their sir name, its something i have always done.
I iz busy most of next week, Hmm i will have to take a look at what i have got on. :happy2:
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They're on - off to bed them in now....pedal is already MUCH improved!!
Will report on stoppies later.
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Aesthetically (bet you can't spell that MR TC! It's "surname" not "sir name"!!) those new AlcoStoppies look very good with your speedline alloys - You don't need red calipers imo.
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Aesthetically (bet you can't spell that MR TC! It's "surname" not "sir name"!!) those new AlcoStoppies look very good with your speedline alloys - You don't need red calipers imo.
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No but i can spell this :angry015: :angry015: :angry015: :signLOL:
They are looking sweet Mike. :party: :rolleye:
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They look great! I think they would look good painted blue - to match the colour of the text in the centre cap of the wheels.
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Charcoal grey, I like the design of the discs, different :happy2:
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Leave them colour as is - They look far more functional and purposeful IMO.
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Charcoal grey, I like the design of the discs, different :happy2:
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I'm most likely six minutes away from chundering warringtons finest.... But f*** me do they stop hard! They'll get better apparently too..
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But f*** me do they stop hard! They'll get better apparently too..
....Meaning that they grab? Or that you haven't got used to more direct pedal response?
What do you mean "they'll get better"?
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I'm most likely six minutes away from chundering warringtons finest.... But f*** me do they stop hard! They'll get better apparently too..
why did you post this at 4 am and what does it mean :laugh:
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I'm most likely six minutes away from chundering warringtons finest....
....I really do hope that you're saying you'll be drinking Warrington's finest AFTER you're home and not driving having already consumed a skinful which you are soon about to chunder :sick:
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Apologies if I've misinterpreted your post but it wasn't clear. :smiley:
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God no, I don't drink and drive.
I'd been out on the lash and had a quick nosy at the forum on the iphone when I got in whilst eating... well, I think it was a burger? I don't make sense at the best of times, never mind when drunk.
I've bedded them in yesterday somewhere nice and quiet, and to do so you have to make 6 stops from 60 pressing increasingly harder on the pedal. Then drive for a few minutes at 50 to cool them down. On the last stop which was as hard as I could press the pedal I was pulling on the locked seatbelt, such was the force.
Pedal is very progressive indeed, not hard to use them in traffic at all. Power is very strong though. The instructions state I have to wait for around 250 miles for the build up of material on the new discs to be fully ready for hard (track) usage, so they can only get better.
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Sounds exactly what good brakes should do!
VW just haven't gone that extra mile on the GTI and especially the Ed30 - Wouldn't drivers have preferred better brakes to red stitching!?
I guess their thinking is that there's a healthy aftermarket out there for such options. Actually we get better choices in the aftermarket imo.
Apologies again on any suggestion you drink-drive - I would hope that absolutely no-one on this forum does so.
Have Fun,
Robin :happy2:
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No need to apologise.
Just heading out now for a drive over the Debyshire peaks, Snake and Woodhead pass. Should help get the miles up!!
Pics later of the meet.
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brakes looking GREAT, blue calipers would look 8) 8) IMO of course :happy2:
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Love the look of the Alcons 8)
Whatever happens....DO NOT PAINT THEM!!!! they look great just as they are. I'd be tempted to paint the rears to match the colour if it was me. :happy2:
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looking great mike, they look great the colour they are too! ;)
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No need to apologise.
Just heading out now for a drive over the Debyshire peaks, Snake and Woodhead pass. Should help get the miles up!!
Pics later of the meet.
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Are you going to tell us a bit more about these brakes then, now there bedded in. :happy2:
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In the words of my mate with a TTS, who came out for the Peaks Cannonball this weekend - "I see brake lights, and then a second later it's panic and I have to slam on before I run up your arse!!"
They're possibly the best road orientated BBK I have used, and I'm very thankful as I was a bit worried about buying them, knowing nothing about them. Track action remains the final test, but if Regal have run them for the past 2 years on their VW Cup winning car, they can't be that bad!
So progressive, so iron fist in a silk glove, so perfect for the car.
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I was having a chat with Mike from Votex about them,he gave them a big thumbs up. he was also telling me about the last set you sent back. :scared:
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ahh, I bet I know why you were there! Is it good?
Yes, it'll be the last of my money that particular supplier will ever have, a full story for Sunday. mike was pulling his hair out over them and some of their other handiwork.
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With a good BBK on roads (not track) you really have to watch who's behind you and that your braking doesn't deposit them in your back seat!
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They are looking sweet :drool:. What size of disc are they?
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They're a 343mm/4-pot caliper.
I've also got braided hoses and track pads all round (no squeaking either, thankfully) plus Motul RBF600 fluid. It still seems pretty 'flat' on braking, unless it's from very high speed and then it can get a little nose down, no fade whatsoever so far. As the rear discs come to end of life, I'll change them for some R32/S3 ones to bring the balance back... but I don't feel the need to rush yet.
You can get a 365mm/6-pot MKII Audi TT kit (about a £240 premium), but I couldn't find out if it would fit a Golf properly. I don't see why not though?
I think if I'd have gone for the bigger fronts, I'd have had to do the rears straight away. Just personal preference, but I don't like tail happy cars under braking... some people find this a plus point though, depends on your style I suppose?
Oh, and I'm not painting them - can't be bothered!! Might match up the rears when I get them though.