MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Homer on February 28, 2011, 12:12:56 pm
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Hi all, well after my first week I have spent £100 pound worth of fuel... :scared: I do about 45 miles per day. On my last car vectra 1.9TDI I spent £70 every 2 weeks so its quite a jump! I was just wondering how you guys/gals afford the fuel every week?? Does anyone do these type of miles? Is there anyway to reduce this cost? Thanks a lot
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Take the lead out of your boot! :laugh:
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go stage 2+ :driver: :signLOL:
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sell your body, or start robbing from hitch hikers!
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Perhaps a question you should have asked about 2 weeks ago :laugh:
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Perhaps a question you should have asked about 2 weeks ago :laugh:
+1 :laugh:
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get yourself classed as a 'homeworker' with the company you work for so all mileage goes through expenses :smiley:
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lol, I have decided to start cycling to work... :laugh:
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get a soot chucker
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Step one... Dont think about it
Step two... Never check you bank balance
Step three... :driver:
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drive slower :),
i do about 300 miles a week and thats a tankfull at about 80 quid a week
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i dont talk mpg :innocent:
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i dont talk mpg :innocent:
:innocent:
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i dont talk mpg :innocent:
You gone metric then... :laugh:
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i dont talk mpg :innocent:
You gone metric then... :laugh:
What... smiles per miles?
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The GTI isn't renowned nor bought for its mpg. On average you get around 320 miles depending kn driving style. 45x7=315 miles. You'd do better if all of those miles were motorway at steady 60mph. Look up on how to hypermile.
In all honesty you could have remapped a gt tdi and got more power as well as good mpg.
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I can think of a perfectly easy way to remove all thoughts of doubt; merely think about the fact that you no longer have to drive a diesel Vectra! :happy2:
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In all honesty you could have remapped a gt tdi and got more power as well as good mpg.
I had one (remapped GT TDI) before I got my GTI and the handling and driving experience wasn't a patch on the GTI, The soot burner felt very nose heavy and the handling didn't sparkle, felt very blunt, but LOADS torque. Good for motorway driving but otherwise give me the GTI anyday! The GTI has poise, balance and excellent feel, the GT TDI was a sledgehammer by comparison, so I just ignore the cost and enjoy - Drove back from La Plagne on Saturday, 870 miles one way, averaged 28mpg -= stage 2+ but was doing between 100 and 120 on the French motorways, so that was painful in fuel cost :(
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street corner lol
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In all honesty you could have remapped a gt tdi and got more power as well as good mpg.
I had one (remapped GT TDI) before I got my GTI and the handling and driving experience wasn't a patch on the GTI, The soot burner felt very nose heavy and the handling didn't sparkle, felt very blunt, but LOADS torque. Good for motorway driving but otherwise give me the GTI anyday! The GTI has poise, balance and excellent feel, the GT TDI was a sledgehammer by comparison, so I just ignore the cost and enjoy - Drove back from La Plagne on Saturday, 870 miles one way, averaged 28mpg -= stage 2+ but was doing between 100 and 120 on the French motorways, so that was painful in fuel cost :(
Ouch !
How was the snow conditions?
Stayed in Belle Plange last year.
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I'm doing about 70-80 miles a day, 5 days a week and have been for the last three years and have just hit 105k on the odometer. When I fill up these days I very rarely pay any attention to the cost, otherwise I think I might think twice. Trouble is, I love the car too much to get rid... well that and new cars cost a (not so) small fortune these days.
By driving carefully (or like a boring old fart, take your pick) I can usually manage about 350-400 miles from a tank, which means that I can "get by" only filling up once a week...
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Hi all, well after my first week I have spent £100 pound worth of fuel... :scared: I do about 45 miles per day. On my last car vectra 1.9TDI I spent £70 every 2 weeks so its quite a jump! I was just wondering how you guys/gals afford the fuel every week?? Does anyone do these type of miles? Is there anyway to reduce this cost? Thanks a lot
£100 should be over 500 miles of driving.... so I think you've been out enjoying your new car! :driver:
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Thanks for the input folks, I did not trade the Vectra in as wouldnt have gotten much for it so I still have use of it, I am going to use it for the long commute and use the GTI for playtime! :happy2:
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get a soot chucker
:grin: lol! Soot chucker :)
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get a soot chucker
:grin: lol! Soot chucker :)
Noooooooooooooooooo :P
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Why don't you be the first and convert the gti to LPG :happy2:
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Why don't you be the first and convert the gti to LPG :happy2:
^^^^ Ban him!! Sacrilege! Ban him and then burn him!
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Just think everytime your filling it up it could be worse it could be a r32
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last time i checked the price of petrol was when it used to be around 89p few years ago now, now i just dont bother, it's simple i need petrol to run the car to get me A to B so when it's empty, full tank is it's replacement :smiley:
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Just think everytime your filling it up it could be worse it could be a r32
:grin: .................. oh wait ....... :chicken: ........... Doh! :grin:
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Why don't you be the first and convert the gti to LPG :happy2:
^^^^ Ban him!! Sacrilege! Ban him and then burn him!
Diseasal yes, battery power yes but not for LPG. :stupid:
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Just think everytime your filling it up it could be worse it could be a r32
:grin: .................. oh wait ....... :chicken: ........... Doh! :grin:
yeah but the soundtrack!!! :evilgrin:
i hit the m25 last weds and couldnt resist winding down the windows and giving it some beans.cant imagine what vc's sounds like in same tunnel woop!!!!
and i have decided to keep the midline off of the fuel function so i dont notice how much less mpg i get when my foot feels the urge to get heavy :booty:
matsu
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Why don't you be the first and convert the gti to LPG :happy2:
^^^^ Ban him!! Sacrilege! Ban him and then burn him!
Diseasal yes, battery power yes but not for LPG. :stupid:
....Who are you calling "stupid"? If you found your R32 expensive on fuel, try LPG. It's also heavier than petrol in weight. It's been around since the 1940s apparently but for some reason hasn't taken off as a motor fuel. It's more enviro friendly though.
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But £2K on an LPG conversion will take some time pay for itself never mind save money. And dont forget that if a lot of people start using LPG, the cost of it will sky rocket just like petrol has.
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But £2K on an LPG conversion will take some time pay for itself never mind save money. And dont forget that if a lot of people start using LPG, the cost of it will sky rocket just like petrol has.
....Plus there's the infrastructure needed at fuelling stations. Being based on fossil fuels it ain't gonna happen for as long as there is the belief that they are the bad guys.
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^^ True.
They will bleed us no matter what. If electric cars take off, they will just find another way of taxing the amount you use it.
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Yeh I nearly bought an R32! My mate has just moved to Dubai to work and he has bough a big engine sports car, costs him next to nothing to fill up the lucky git! There is a site I have found petrol prices.com it shows cheapest filling stations near you, its free site. Can save you at least a fiver every time you fill up, might be helpful to many of us.
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Sounds to me like a typical case of you driving the car to much as you're enjoying it.. :wink: As there's no way the Vectra will do 3 X the MPG of the Golf.. In fact if driven well, I bet there's not that much between them on a run..
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I was under the impression the GTI Injector spray pattern was wrong for LPG or it could be something to do with direct injection, anyway not sure its so easy on the Tfsi.
I tend to drive quite slowly on the way to and from work, not above 70mph on motorway and stick to the limits as not in a rush(get up earlier) and I get 38mpg!
Mrs H4rdys Touran Tdi sport gets 52mpg with this style of driving so thats get used if she doesn't need it.
Take it easy and lay off the boot or..................don't complain about the cost :signLOL:
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There is a site I have found petrol prices.com it shows cheapest filling stations near you, its free site. Can save you at least a fiver every time you fill up, might be helpful to many of us.
....Be aware, very aware, that although the 2.0T FSI engine will run on 95 RON petrol it is NOT recommended by Volkswagen. There should be a label inside your fuel cap saying so. Always run on higher octane fuel such as Shell V-Power except in emergency.
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My old BMW 320D 2003 used to average 36 mpg. On the same journeys and usage the GTI does 29-30. So not exactly a massive difference and A LOT MORE FUN...... :driver:
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There is a site I have found petrol prices.com it shows cheapest filling stations near you, its free site. Can save you at least a fiver every time you fill up, might be helpful to many of us.
....Be aware, very aware, that although the 2.0T FSI engine will run on 95 RON petrol it is NOT recommended by Volkswagen. There should be a label inside your fuel cap saying so. Always run on higher octane fuel such as Shell V-Power except in emergency.
My 2007 GTI say 95 octane in the fuel cap :P
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Interesting points, to be honest at this stage it is only the second week of owning the car so I cant bring myself to drive at 60MPH or motorways :smiley: However this shall be done in the future. And yes I have been driving more than usual and fast so this may explain the two petrol tanks I went through in a week..
RedRobin and others- The site I mentioned tells prices of Super-Unleaded as well and it highlights many of the supermarkets are cheaper which leads me onto my next point- is the super unleaded at the supermarkets okay to use and is it same as say V power? Thanks
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vpower is vpower, you need to read up on it before you attempt to compare it with detergent filled supermarket fuels :happy2:
its an age old topic on here :innocent:
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Why don't you be the first and convert the gti to LPG :happy2:
^^^^ Ban him!! Sacrilege! Ban him and then burn him!
Diseasal yes, battery power yes but not for LPG. :stupid:
....Who are you calling "stupid"? If you found your R32 expensive on fuel, try LPG. It's also heavier than petrol in weight. It's been around since the 1940s apparently but for some reason hasn't taken off as a motor fuel. It's more enviro friendly though.
So you want to ban and burn him for suggesting a GTI LPG conversion?
Makes perfect sense if you can stump up for the initial outlay. Cake and eat it. :confused:
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Interesting points, to be honest at this stage it is only the second week of owning the car so I cant bring myself to drive at 60MPH or motorways :smiley: However this shall be done in the future. And yes I have been driving more than usual and fast so this may explain the two petrol tanks I went through in a week..
RedRobin and others- The site I mentioned tells prices of Super-Unleaded as well and it highlights many of the supermarkets are cheaper which leads me onto my next point- is the super unleaded at the supermarkets okay to use and is it same as say V power? Thanks
What website was it? I cant find it
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So you want to ban and burn him for suggesting a GTI LPG conversion?
Makes perfect sense if you can stump up for the initial outlay. Cake and eat it. :confused:
....I was joking when I said ban him etc :rolleye:
I'd rather spend that kind of LPG conversion money on some mods.
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....Be aware, very aware, that although the 2.0T FSI engine will run on 95 RON petrol it is NOT recommended by Volkswagen. There should be a label inside your fuel cap saying so. Always run on higher octane fuel such as Shell V-Power except in emergency.
My 2007 GTI say 95 octane in the fuel cap :P
....Really? :surprised: My 2005 GTI says:
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And IIRC the Handbook recommends 98 rather than 95. But it's your car and up to you how you want to look after it.
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There is a site I have found petrol prices.com it shows cheapest filling stations near you, its free site. Can save you at least a fiver every time you fill up, might be helpful to many of us.
....Be aware, very aware, that although the 2.0T FSI engine will run on 95 RON petrol it is NOT recommended by Volkswagen. There should be a label inside your fuel cap saying so. Always run on higher octane fuel such as Shell V-Power except in emergency.
Super Unleaded is normally 97 ron, V Power and Tesco Momentum are 99 ron. 98 Ron is what's recommended. So I suppose 97 is better than 95, and I'm sure that it wouldn't actually make a massive difference in reality. Me? I used V Power almost exculsivley.
I changed job about 6 months ago, and started doing a lot of motorway miles, and my average over about 16000 miles went up to 34.7 mpg with about 38+ on the purely motorway parts, that's travelling at 70 mph plus a some leeway with the cruise on. I reckon that's pretty awesome considering the performance. Incidentally my car was an 2005 car, which I'm told were more economical than later cars.
I swapped it for a 2006 B7 Audi A4 2.0 tdi quattro manual, and get about 41mpg on the same jorney. Now that is rubbish...
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Will cruise control improve my MPG on a motorway run? Anyone tried a little test? :P
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I found that it did for me, as it meant that my speed didn't drift around.
I'm sure that you could get better economy by slowing for the hills and speeding up on the downs, but on a long journey I find it more relaxing to set the cruise at 77 mph then concentrate on not getting annoyed by all the middle lane drivers.
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Thanks bud :happy2:
Are they worth a punt then? Would I be spending more than £100 to have it fitted? :chicken:
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Interesting points, to be honest at this stage it is only the second week of owning the car so I cant bring myself to drive at 60MPH or motorways :smiley: However this shall be done in the future. And yes I have been driving more than usual and fast so this may explain the two petrol tanks I went through in a week..
RedRobin and others- The site I mentioned tells prices of Super-Unleaded as well and it highlights many of the supermarkets are cheaper which leads me onto my next point- is the super unleaded at the supermarkets okay to use and is it same as say V power? Thanks
What website was it? I cant find it
http://www.petrolprices.com/
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Thanks bud :happy2:
Are they worth a punt then? Would I be spending more than £100 to have it fitted? :chicken:
The dealer did mine for £150 all in.
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....Be aware, very aware, that although the 2.0T FSI engine will run on 95 RON petrol it is NOT recommended by Volkswagen. There should be a label inside your fuel cap saying so. Always run on higher octane fuel such as Shell V-Power except in emergency.
My 2007 GTI say 95 octane in the fuel cap :P
....Really? :surprised: My 2005 GTI says:
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And IIRC the Handbook recommends 98 rather than 95. But it's your car and up to you how you want to look after it.
This has come up before and when the part no for the 95 ron label was checked it was actually for a different model golf!
But there is no technical issue in using 95 ron other than you will not get the stated fuel consumption / power output. I believe there has been some issues in the US attributed to lower ron fuel but the 'standard' unleaded there is lower than our - around 87 iirc and their premium unleaded is only around 91.
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This has come up before and when the part no for the 95 ron label was checked it was actually for a different model golf!
But there is no technical issue in using 95 ron other than you will not get the stated fuel consumption / power output. I believe there has been some issues in the US attributed to lower ron fuel but the 'standard' unleaded there is lower than our - around 87 iirc and their premium unleaded is only around 91.
....The U S of A petrol is a different animal and hence the VW's across the pond are different.
As I do recall, in the UK when the ECU is confronted with 95 RON fuel it compensates but compromises smoothness(?) in doing so. It might be Timing which is effected and so if you are remapped you should definitely avoid any petrol less than 98 except in emergency. Perhaps someone else can fill in the detail.
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This has come up before and when the part no for the 95 ron label was checked it was actually for a different model golf!
But there is no technical issue in using 95 ron other than you will not get the stated fuel consumption / power output. I believe there has been some issues in the US attributed to lower ron fuel but the 'standard' unleaded there is lower than our - around 87 iirc and their premium unleaded is only around 91.
....The U S of A petrol is a different animal and hence the VW's across the pond are different.
As I do recall, in the UK when the ECU is confronted with 95 RON fuel it compensates but compromises smoothness(?) in doing so. It might be Timing which is effected and so if you are remapped you should definitely avoid any petrol less than 98 except in emergency. Perhaps someone else can fill in the detail.
Fuel in the US is not measured in RON (Research Octane Rating) as it here an in Europe, it's usually measured in AKI (Anti Knock Index), this means that the two numbers cannot be directly compared. In the US they normally have a few different grades with ratings from 87 (which is about 91-92 RON) up to 93 (which is about 97-98 RON).
The effect of putting lower-grade fuel in your car should be minimal though as the GTI is equipt with a knock sensor, which basically allows the ECU to retard or advance the timing of the engine so as not to cause the fuel to combust too early, which could damage the engine. In this situation the fuel economy and power will be reduced compared to the manufacturer's specifications. It's also worth noting that changes in temperature and altitude can also cause this situation as they may also alter the rate of knock.
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Will cruise control improve my MPG on a motorway run? Anyone tried a little test? :P
I used my cruise for the first time last week, set at 75 I got up to 28.2mpg over the 90 miles or so I was on the motorway. Not great but an improvement on the 26mpg I got on my last trip to Newcastle just on the right foot.
It became a personal goal not to brake and strategically overtake slower cars but I soon lost that game! :fighting:
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^^ i managed 29mpg in my cayman driving from london to newcastle - cruise set at 70-80ish, i would expect more from your golf
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Will cruise control improve my MPG on a motorway run? Anyone tried a little test? :P
I used my cruise for the first time last week, set at 75 I got up to 28.2mpg over the 90 miles or so I was on the motorway. Not great but an improvement on the 26mpg I got on my last trip to Newcastle just on the right foot.
It became a personal goal not to brake and strategically overtake slower cars but I soon lost that game! :fighting:
You should get more than that. I did a 230 mile round trip on the motorway 6 weeks ago to pick the missus new car up. As she was following me for direction I was driving economically and on the motorway had cruise set between 75-80mph. By the end of the journey the mpg had risen to 40.2mpg at those speeds. Very impressive considering on the same journey the other halfs new Cooper d did 56mpg. Some way of BMW's claim of 72mpg
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Really?! Thats a concern then, I tried to get over 30mpg last time I came back down the a38 from derby to Walsall and I had to sit at 55ish! I've only put v power in since last July so I no it's not using duff fuel. I'll be having my 6th yr service soon so I can see if that improves things at all. My daily commute in traffic over 16 miles each way sees me get up to 26mpg so I would have hoped to have been around 35 on the open road. I just put it down to the turbo pulling my pants down sucking all the fuel away! :booty:
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the computer trip displays arent famed for their accuracy. Theres loads of guys on briskoda in the diesels who geek it up with mpg chasing.
they use speadsheets with miles covered and actual fuel used to get the accurate mpg :chicken:. they all reckon the trip display is normally quite far out.
There must be about 6 mpg threads going on there at anyone time :mad:
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Will cruise control improve my MPG on a motorway run? Anyone tried a little test? :P
I used my cruise for the first time last week, set at 75 I got up to 28.2mpg over the 90 miles or so I was on the motorway. Not great but an improvement on the 26mpg I got on my last trip to Newcastle just on the right foot.
It became a personal goal not to brake and strategically overtake slower cars but I soon lost that game! :fighting:
That doesnt sound right , ive had over 39MPG for a slow run up the A1 and I dont have cruise , even if i give it a bit of beans i return mid 30s. I had a 1.4 (8v) Skoda Fabia before the GTI and that was only ablout 5 mpg better than the Golf , with none of the joy you get from driving a GTI - to me those 5 mpg or so less are a tiny price to pay for so much fun!
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the computer trip displays arent famed for their accuracy. Theres loads of guys on briskoda in the diesels who geek it up with mpg chasing.
they use speadsheets with miles covered and actual fuel used to get the accurate mpg :chicken:. they all reckon the trip display is normally quite far out.
There must be about 6 mpg threads going on there at anyone time :mad:
I find it to be pretty accurate. After 260 miles i still had over half a tank left and a range of 250 miles. That's 510 in total and I'm in no doubt if i'd carried on at the same speed it would break 500 miles :laugh:
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Oh dear, I can honestly say I've not topped 330 miles out of a tank which is now topping £70 to fill it. :stupid:
Could this be down to it having a hard time off previous owners do you rekon? It's only just covered 58k and seems to run smoothly most drives.
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I commute about 55 miles per day to work, am getting about 31-32mpg average and it's a mix of town, motorway (steady 80mph cruise) and A-road...
I get around 350 miles per tank...
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I put £20 in tank every other day :jumping:
Good job my 125 does 220miles to £10 :happy2:
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I did a round trip of around 320 miles today and managed an average on 62.3 mpg! :jumpmove:
(please note this was in the Mrs MK6 1.6TDI) :wink:
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:booty:
I managed around 330 miles max per tank.
You should be getting 40+mpg if you stay at 60mph for a while.
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i do an 8 mile round commute in the Gti approx 2 or 3 times a week so i dont have to worry about the petrol too much, i have the use of work car and a shopping trolley the rest of the time :signLOL:. there nothing special though :sad1:
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I was watching the news today, Tories are meant to be bringing in a mechanism to help control fuel prices... we will see on that one though. My mate in Dubai says it costs £10 to fill up a 3 litre V6, not sure how accurate his maths are but it may not be far off.
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Rather strange one last night for me.. Filled the old girl up with some more motion lotion and noticed that V Power was 131.9 a litre. Thing is, it was 134.9 on saturday :confused:. What is strange though, it only seems to be the V Power that has come down :confused:, as there was normally a 8p gap between normal unleaded and V power, it's now 5p!!! Suggesting that the normal unleaded has stayed the same and they have dropped the price on the good stuff...
A mistake maybe? Or do we think that Shell have decided that V Power has creeped up to a level where a lot of users aren't bothering anymore and just sticking in the poison?
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I did plymouth to bristol yesterday, 60MPH all the way (almost). I only managed a touch under 35mpg... i'm beginning to thing i have a problem with my car.
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I did plymouth to bristol yesterday, 60MPH all the way (almost). I only managed a touch under 35mpg... i'm beginning to thing i have a problem with my car.
....Similarly to you, when I nursed my car the 90 miles to JKM recently I stayed in D-mode and kept the revs under 3k and my display read 33 mpg. Whereas I was pleased to see a mpg value I very rarely achieve, I was a bit bored.... Well, a lot bored!
I only take a passing interest in my fuel consumption as it's not going to stop my driving enjoyment. It's not the travelling from A to B which is enjoyable but how you enjoy the journey inbetween.
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Rather strange one last night for me.. Filled the old girl up with some more motion lotion and noticed that V Power was 131.9 a litre. Thing is, it was 134.9 on saturday :confused:. What is strange though, it only seems to be the V Power that has come down :confused:, as there was normally a 8p gap between normal unleaded and V power, it's now 5p!!! Suggesting that the normal unleaded has stayed the same and they have dropped the price on the good stuff...
A mistake maybe? Or do we think that Shell have decided that V Power has creeped up to a level where a lot of users aren't bothering anymore and just sticking in the poison?
....I love that "motion lotion" term :happy2: :notworthy: - I shall be using it!
I wish that the fuel retailers would standardise their pump prices globally in the UK. I can pay anything from 132 to 145 a litre of V-Power motion lotion on the same long journey. The retail price should be networked from midnight on a daily basis - Surely the technology exists to do that.
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^^ Agreed. I filled up yesterday at 126.9 (cooking petrol) and 2 miles down the road it was 130.9 :mad:
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Rather strange one last night for me.. Filled the old girl up with some more motion lotion and noticed that V Power was 131.9 a litre. Thing is, it was 134.9 on saturday :confused:. What is strange though, it only seems to be the V Power that has come down :confused:, as there was normally a 8p gap between normal unleaded and V power, it's now 5p!!! Suggesting that the normal unleaded has stayed the same and they have dropped the price on the good stuff...
A mistake maybe? Or do we think that Shell have decided that V Power has creeped up to a level where a lot of users aren't bothering anymore and just sticking in the poison?
...............same here.Put some in sunday & again today & todays was a few pence cheaper :happy2:. Just checked,£1.33.9 :smiley:
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check the site I mentioned, it will help find the cheapest local for superunleaded!
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pulled into tesco today with 10 miles to empty,filled up at £1.33 litre
£70.00 and it still could have gone more !!!!!! :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: