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General => Detailing => Topic started by: Boothy on February 28, 2011, 05:22:49 pm

Title: VW - Valeting
Post by: Boothy on February 28, 2011, 05:22:49 pm
Recently the Wakefield VW dealer washed my car with a bag of sand or something and and made a right mess of the paint work. I have already discussed this matter with the manager who said that they would do a free '...buff and polish"  :scared: which had me somewhat worried. My fears were confirmed after Stealthwolf raised the issue of them preparing the paint correctly prior to machining.

The manager has phoned me again today to say that I can bring it down for this doing and I have raised the same concerns with him. I'm not sure they will prep the car and will just use some numpty to go over the car with a buffer, leaving swirls galore. He assures me that they use an independent valeter to do the cars but I have still asked them to clarify what exactly this valeter will do.

I've never used a machine so want to be sure that when they ring back I know EXACTLY what they should be doing to removing the scratches etc. Should they be claying it first etc?

Heeeeeeeeeelp!
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: Bennett vrs on February 28, 2011, 05:33:23 pm
If you were going for a professional detail you would be expecting it to be washed with snowfoam, and then the 2 bucket method, clayed to remove contaminants, paintwork inspected for depth of swirls and a suitable polish and pad comboto be chosen on that basis and then sealer / wax on top of that. I don't think any valeter at a dealership will or will do that, maybe not by choice but by Instruction. If it was me I would haggle a few free services or something out the dealer and take it to a pro to get it done right and don't let them wash it again and make sure they no not to wash it again!
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: Nasir on February 28, 2011, 06:05:48 pm
VW Wakefield have their own body shop so they may have some expertise in that area.
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: Boothy on February 28, 2011, 06:17:16 pm
VW Wakefield have their own body shop so they may have some expertise in that area.

Wakefield don't have a body shop mate or I hope not because they sent me to Huddersfield to have my rust examined? I wish they did though as I might be a little bit more confident in there abilities.
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: JPC on February 28, 2011, 07:59:48 pm
Mate, they will bugger it up! guaranteed! they are not set up at all (not even 10% competent) at fixing paintwork issues like this. Even most bodyshops will screw it up!!
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: Hedge on February 28, 2011, 08:11:37 pm
I agree with Jay after having been in the same situation.
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: bodger00 on February 28, 2011, 08:26:31 pm
I agree with Jay after having been in the same situation.
Me too - sometimes it pays not to trust the dealers when you know they will make the matter worse.
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: Boothy on February 28, 2011, 08:35:42 pm
Cheers guys. Think I will just tell to forget it and try pushing for somebody with skill to do the job.
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: JPC on February 28, 2011, 08:49:54 pm
I do work for a fair few dealers. I've got a brand new audi in at the mo from a local audi dealership!  :signLOL:
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: Boothy on February 28, 2011, 09:07:48 pm
I do work for a fair few dealers. I've got a brand new audi in at the mo from a local audi dealership!  :signLOL:

They are proper sh*t aren't they! :rolleye:
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: Greeners on February 28, 2011, 09:13:13 pm
VW use companies such as 'Auto Klenz' and these guys use dirty sponges and water to 'clean' cars! They are also paid by the amount of cars they do! You do the math  :scared:

They are maybe a step up from the guys in Sainsbury's car park with a trolley and a bucket!  :scared: :scared:
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: Nasir on February 28, 2011, 09:53:11 pm
VW Wakefield have their own body shop so they may have some expertise in that area.

Wakefield don't have a body shop mate or I hope not because they sent me to Huddersfield to have my rust examined? I wish they did though as I might be a little bit more confident in there abilities.

I think I maybe confusing it with their accident center. There's something back there  :signLOL:
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: stealthwolf on February 28, 2011, 10:47:28 pm
...fears were confirmed after Stealthwolf raised the issue...
Have you learnt nothing from here? Never listen to me!  :grin:


In all honesty, as JPC said, even body shops do crap work. I'd take a detailer/someone who knows what to look for and go over the car after their "polish". Give them the choice of correcting it or paying for a detail.
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: Boothy on March 04, 2011, 12:04:28 pm
 Been to VW today and they wouldn't allow anyone else to try and rectify the issue until they had ago. Initially I said yes but then the more and more I heard him talk the more scared I got! I asked him how they would prepare the car ready for using the buffer and basically he just said "we'll give it a wash with some soapy water". He said they wouldn't clay it first to remove any contaminants and talked about using plenty of grade 6 compound (presumably more aggressive than 3) which sounds harsh so I just said don't bother.
 I'm gonna type up my email to VW this afternoon about the poor service, the rust and the scratches. Its about time they did something right for me for a change!
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: alexperkins on March 04, 2011, 02:38:18 pm
"Some soapy water" just about sums their lack of knowedge up!
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: JPC on March 07, 2011, 06:19:06 pm
Absolute Idiots! just because they sell cars they think they know everything about them! i cant tell you how they wind me up sometimes!
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: SimonBash on March 07, 2011, 07:39:13 pm
Agree with JPC here, your car needs a good detail from a pro. Stealer will only make matters worse  :fighting:
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: Boothy on March 07, 2011, 08:44:26 pm
Agree with JPC here, your car needs a good detail from a pro. Stealer will only make matters worse  :fighting:

I've sent a letter of complaint to CEO of Volkswagen UK and copied the dealer in too. Hopefully the dealers sphinkter will be twitching like a rabbits nose by now! On the other hand they might just have filed it under 'B' for bin?
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: SimonBash on March 07, 2011, 10:40:59 pm
Squeeky bum time for VW customer service methinks! :P
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: barratt on March 15, 2011, 11:52:25 pm
Boothy, what is the Wakefield VW garage like for the rest of their services etc? Had my golf a week and I'm contemplating whether or not to carry on using my mates garage for getting stuff sorted out!
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: liver on March 16, 2011, 11:14:00 am
id avoid wakefield like the plague

havnt heard one good review from them personally about the services and the staff
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: Boothy on March 16, 2011, 01:33:14 pm
Boothy, what is the Wakefield VW garage like for the rest of their services etc? Had my golf a week and I'm contemplating whether or not to carry on using my mates garage for getting stuff sorted out!

Customer service - nill.
Quality of service - nill.

I'll be using Huddersfield or Barnsley from now on!
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: SteveS on March 16, 2011, 01:37:17 pm
Every time i go in for something i say "DO NOT WASH THE CAR" 9out of 10 times they wash it!

Hard to complain about them washing the car!! but i do make the point i said NOT to!

All useless
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: liver on March 16, 2011, 02:37:17 pm
ive heard barnsley are very very good boothy
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: barratt on March 16, 2011, 03:42:39 pm
Thanks for the warning, think ill stick to letting my friend service my car. I've never known a dealer wash your car whenever it goes in, saying that I've only ever had one previous car and never took it to the dealer ;p
Title: Re: VW - Valeting
Post by: Snoopy on March 16, 2011, 07:14:57 pm
Our polo went to a local VW dealer for some work to be done (void bushes) and the paint was gleaming when it went in. When it came out it looked like someone had used a brillo pad and scouring powder on it! Never seen a cars paintwork look so market and dull and all the protection etc had been removed. Im just glad i did not pick it up or it may have been jail time for me. Cost me alot of money to get it corrected, if i had not had a good deal on the work done by the VW dealer that was organised by a friend i would have went mental.

My car is in for a service tomorrow at a different dealer but one from the same group. I just hope they can read as i have put a couple of signs in the car.

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