MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: jamma on March 07, 2011, 06:06:59 pm
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How do people hill start with DSG? I noticed today even though I was in drive the car still rolls back, is it just a case of holding onto the handbrake ?
thanks
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Left foot holding the brake whilst accelerating away with the right foot :happy2:
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Left foot holding the brake whilst accelerating away with the right foot :happy2:
haha yeah right. Spose I will have to use the handbrake.
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Just quickly move your foot from the brake to the accelerator :happy2:
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Is it supposed to roll back ?, mine has auto hill hold so never noticed it ?
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Some early DSG boxes didnt have hill hold on them from what I read the other day
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Thanks, I could use my leg I spose lol
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Is hill hold something that can be retrofitted with the right controller? As far as I understand it its just software that holds the brakes on until the clutch is lifted ... DSG would be slightly different I guess...
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Works the same principle - applies the brakes until you start moving forward, though only holds a few seconds.
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The oem Hill Assist, or whatever it's called, will only work on inclines which aren't steeper than a certain angle. It's not the angle which is measured but more the extra effort required by the engine at idle to move the weight of the car and its load forwards.
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i find most hills my car starts to creep as soon as i lift the brake, but on steeper hills it can roll back a little like a delay to when the car starts creeping. I usually just put my foot on the accelerator quickly but you can keep the handbrake on, lift your foot of the brake till it gets the bite, you should feel it trying to pull away then let handbrake go with no roll back hope that helps
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Left foot holding the brake whilst accelerating away with the right foot :happy2:
haha yeah right. Spose I will have to use the handbrake.
Whats so funny about that??? I wasnt joking :confused:
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Left foot on the brake all the way for me. It rolls back on some hills and not on others as said in previous posts. It sometimes makes you look a :booty:
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Left foot holding the brake whilst accelerating away with the right foot :happy2:
haha yeah right. Spose I will have to use the handbrake.
Whats so funny about that??? I wasnt joking :confused:
the dsg prevents you from using both pedals at once, so it would only be the same as pressing the accelerator quickly after removing your foot of the brake.
The manual tells you to treat it as a manual so, use the handbrake.
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Left foot holding the brake whilst accelerating away with the right foot :happy2:
haha yeah right. Spose I will have to use the handbrake.
Whats so funny about that??? I wasnt joking :confused:
the dsg prevents you from using both pedals at once, so it would only be the same as pressing the accelerator quickly after removing your foot of the brake.
The manual tells you to treat it as a manual so, use the handbrake.
Does it?? how does the launch control work then??
I've never experianced a problem doing it the way I said. Sit on the hill with my left foot on the brake then when I need to pull off press the accelerator then take your foot off the brake :happy2: It may be a lil bit jumpy at first but you soon get the hang of it
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Left foot holding the brake whilst accelerating away with the right foot :happy2:
haha yeah right. Spose I will have to use the handbrake.
Whats so funny about that??? I wasnt joking :confused:
the dsg prevents you from using both pedals at once, so it would only be the same as pressing the accelerator quickly after removing your foot of the brake.
The manual tells you to treat it as a manual so, use the handbrake.
Does it?? how does the launch control work then??
I've never experianced a problem doing it the way I said. Sit on the hill with my left foot on the brake then when I need to pull off press the accelerator then take your foot off the brake :happy2: It may be a lil bit jumpy at first but you soon get the hang of it
you need to be in sport with esp turned off for launch control. with your handbrake there is no juddering
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Launch control? How does this work? With DSG I notice there is a slight delay in pulling out of juntions, rather like a normal auto car. Is there a way of doing this safely or is it just push your foot down and wait ?
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Launch control? How does this work? With DSG I notice there is a slight delay in pulling out of juntions, rather like a normal auto car. Is there a way of doing this safely or is it just push your foot down and wait ?
as i take my foot off the brake its milliseconds before im moving forward.
if the car has just been in natural its slightly longer.
launch control, turn off esp by holding the esp button, put the car in sport, hold the brake with your left foot flat on the accelerator and the car wont exceed 4000rpm then let go of the brake and bang off you go
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You dont have to have your foot flat on the floor with launch control and your better not if you want any form of traction, you can hold the revs at whatever level you want to control the launch, from memory its 3000 rpm with the standard DSG map not 4000, is you box mapped ED?
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You dont have to have your foot flat on the floor with launch control and your better not if you want any form of traction, you can hold the revs at whatever level you want to control the launch, from memory its 3000 rpm with the standard DSG map not 4000, is you box mapped ED?
sorry i didn't articulate my explanation. i assumed that he would figure out you don't have to always have it at the full revs. My box isn't mapped but i have only done it once and thought it was 4000, i was obviously mistaken. :happy2:
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I don't know if it's just my car but I find launch control takes like half a second before it goes when you take your foot Off the brake I think flooring it from standstill gives less a delay and before anyone says you don't floor it I have an r32 so you can launch at 3000rpm easily without wheelspin
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it does take a second yeah
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but whats the point in raping the clutch if its going to wait a second to do it you could lose a race like that
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I tried this launch last night on the way back from spurs v milan , mine only went upto about 2800 revs IIRC. I never acrually launched I just wanted to see if it went to 4000 rpm but as above post states I have the car as standard and no remaps.
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I still think the launch control will be quicker than a normal set off as the revs and engine power is therefore higher, and obviously the clutch has to deal with that extra power and clamp sufficiently.