MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: SteveS on March 01, 2009, 11:22:25 pm
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was thinking about lowering the motor... maybe...
whats a good kit.. :fighting2:
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are you looking at coilies or springs? for springs i'd either go for eibach pro or H&R :happy2:
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well you can go down the springs route. That will costs you about 300 fitted for eibachs. There not really recommended for anything other than road use. If you will be giving your car some 'stick' you'll probably want to look at a good set of coilovers. Thats goin to cost about 1100 fitted i think for something like kw v1s. These are a great compromise for price quality and looks. You can spend a lot more on v3s but you'll have to be tracking etc to really make use of the extra benefits. I've got eibach sportline springs on my golf at the moment. They are great to be honest, my car will never go on the track so there ideal.
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You can spend a lot more on v3s but you'll have to be tracking etc to really make use of the extra benefits.
....Obviously it makes fuller use of them on track but you would then want the version with adjustable top-mounts.
I'm extremely happy with my VWR-KW-V3's for fast road use : -
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1457.0
But they do come into play more on a performance modified car.
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true robin, they can be equally set up for an incredible fast road experience. I just wish i had the disposable funds to afford them. Unfortunately, i don't at the moment. Then i think so myself, diesel golf, kw v3s, are you kidding? Bit overkill wouldn't you say for me? I might convince to indulge in some v1s in time though. What do you think?
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I agree with what you're saying, Jay - It's horses for courses and would be overkill. I'm lucky - I have sufficient funds available.
For your car I think I'd get aftermarket anti-roll bars and probably Eibach coilovers or KoniFSD's with Eibach springs - Or similar. But the ARB's will help enormously and could be a good next mod for you :evilgrin:
Sorreeee!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FRED_INK%2FYouKnowYouWantTo.jpg&hash=300d7ccce563c38ea613471d64a7c2679e38fcde)
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done! Haha. My next mod is actually tenerife!
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i guess springs then... dont have the money to spend 1100 odd.. but 300 just for some springs seems a lot too?
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The trouble is that the workshop time spent on changing only the springs goes a long way towards what's involved in changing the dampers; And ARB's. So, it's far more cost efficient to upgrade all your suspension in one workshop session.
HTH
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understood, but i guess i wouldnt get any real advantage as i wont be trackdaying.
just want better handling and look :-|
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Price up some Eibach springs, they'll do the trick and you know they'll be good quality.
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any good places to check prices?
£130 inc P+P on vwspeed
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eibach springs dont drop it very much from what i remember. :smiley:
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H&R do various drops, I think these would be the ones you're after?
http://www.vwspeed.co.uk/volkswagen/vw-parts/Mk5_Golf_H_R_Sports_Springs-1665-161.html
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Application
For 10/03 on 45-50mm models only ???????
does that mean 45-50mm drop?
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Not entirely sure, he's relaunching the site soon with a fresh platform so it's a bit choppy. Had a look on H&R's US site and there's 3 types of dropped spring listed, seems to tie in.
http://hrsprings.com/scripts/appguide.php?Mode=Application+Guide&SubMode=Find2&Year=2006&ModelID=526&q=2006%20|%20VOLKSWAGEN%20|%20GTI%20(Golf%20V)
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Eibach pro lower 20mm and Eibach sportline lower 40mm iirc.
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40mm sounds better
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i thought h&r did a 60mm drop?? thats what id go with :innocent:
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i would like to get over speed bumps.. plus wouldnt this cause the suspention to bottom out..
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60mm seems a bit OT, well it would be where i live. My front spoiler would be dead with 5mins.
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I am also looking for some springs and currently looking at the Eibach's.
As the ED30 is already a little lower would the 40mm ones not cause problems with speed humps or is this about the correct drop?
As the springs cost about £120-130 and fitted costs seem to be around £300 what is actually involved in fitting them. Excuse my ignorance but my local mechanic has said he will fit them and I want to make sure he does them right!
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I am also looking for some springs and currently looking at the Eibach's.
As the ED30 is already a little lower would the 40mm ones not cause problems with speed humps or is this about the correct drop?
As the springs cost about £120-130 and fitted costs seem to be around £300 what is actually involved in fitting them. Excuse my ignorance but my local mechanic has said he will fit them and I want to make sure he does them right!
ed30/gti are the same height
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I am also looking for some springs and currently looking at the Eibach's.
As the ED30 is already a little lower would the 40mm ones not cause problems with speed humps or is this about the correct drop?
As the springs cost about £120-130 and fitted costs seem to be around £300 what is actually involved in fitting them. Excuse my ignorance but my local mechanic has said he will fit them and I want to make sure he does them right!
ed30/gti are the same height
Sorry my mistake, still learning! I read a review which said that the ED30 was slightly lower than the GTI but when looking a different cars I could never see it, now I know why.
So 40mm would be ok without causing any issues?
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40mm would be fine, you may need to remove the 2 screws inside the arches and tuck the arch liner up behind the mounts, but thats literally a 10 min job. :smiley:
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I am also looking for some springs and currently looking at the Eibach's.
As the ED30 is already a little lower would the 40mm ones not cause problems with speed humps or is this about the correct drop?
As the springs cost about £120-130 and fitted costs seem to be around £300 what is actually involved in fitting them. Excuse my ignorance but my local mechanic has said he will fit them and I want to make sure he does them right!
Same as any car, simply removing them from the struts at the front and replacing them, the rear is even easier.
http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/ (http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/) have the sportlines for £123 inc VAT + £12.50 Delivery
Product Code:
E20-85-014-02-22
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eibach group buy? :happy2:
roadrunner in notts do them for around £120 last time i asked, if anyone else wants them maybe a discount can be gained?
im looking into some, was actually gonna purchase them last month but unexpected bill came up.
pre 04+ are all 50mm i think?? somone can confirm this im sure, my local dealer want £70 to confirm but im sure all gtis from 2004-2006 maybe the same?
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Manufacturer : Eibach Springs
Category : Eibach Sportline Springs
Sub-category : Eibach Sportline - VW
Application : Golf V (1K) 2.0 FSI/1.9 TDI/1.9 TDI DSG/2.0 SDI/2.0 TDI/2.0 TDI DSG 10/03>
Product Code: E20-85-014-02-22
Details : Chassis 1K.
Lowering Front/Rear = 45-50mm/30-35mm
Axle Load: Front = 1120kg Rear = 900kg
Price: £123.25 inc VAT
Delivery: £12.50
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Id be interested in a group buy probably.
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I am also looking for some springs and currently looking at the Eibach's.
As the ED30 is already a little lower would the 40mm ones not cause problems with speed humps or is this about the correct drop?
As the springs cost about £120-130 and fitted costs seem to be around £300 what is actually involved in fitting them. Excuse my ignorance but my local mechanic has said he will fit them and I want to make sure he does them right!
Same as any car, simply removing them from the struts at the front and replacing them, the rear is even easier.
http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/ (http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/) have the sportlines for £123 inc VAT + £12.50 Delivery
Product Code:
E20-85-014-02-22
Thats what I thought. Not sure why some guys are quoting over £300 for supply and installation.
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Manufacturer : Eibach Springs
Category : Eibach Sportline Springs
Sub-category : Eibach Sportline - VW
Application : Golf V (1K) 2.0 FSI/1.9 TDI/1.9 TDI DSG/2.0 SDI/2.0 TDI/2.0 TDI DSG 10/03>
Product Code: E20-85-014-02-22
Details : Chassis 1K.
Lowering Front/Rear = 45-50mm/30-35mm
Axle Load: Front = 1120kg Rear = 900kg
Price: £123.25 inc VAT
Delivery: £12.50
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Id be interested in a group buy probably.
Count me in too. I also need another second set for an 08 Jetta
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it is wise to get the alignment done again after fitting suspension mods. you need to factor the cost of this in as well. :smiley:
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I am also looking for some springs and currently looking at the Eibach's.
As the ED30 is already a little lower would the 40mm ones not cause problems with speed humps or is this about the correct drop?
As the springs cost about £120-130 and fitted costs seem to be around £300 what is actually involved in fitting them. Excuse my ignorance but my local mechanic has said he will fit them and I want to make sure he does them right!
Same as any car, simply removing them from the struts at the front and replacing them, the rear is even easier.
http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/ (http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/) have the sportlines for £123 inc VAT + £12.50 Delivery
Product Code:
E20-85-014-02-22
Thats what I thought. Not sure why some guys are quoting over £300 for supply and installation.
because thats how much it would cost for a garage to do a proper job of fitting them and doing a laser align.
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Price didn't include a laser alignment.
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youl need you car aligned afterwards.
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understood, but i guess i wouldnt get any real advantage as i wont be trackdaying.
just want better handling and look :-|
....I'm not saying that you personally need to go further and get dampers and ARB's but it's not true that someone won't get any real benefit from such suspension mods unless they do trackdays.
I've just returned from a 48-mile run on a twisty and up and down B-road with all sorts of camber changes etc - Ask the biker mate of mine who was in my passenger seat whether suspension mods make a difference on the road - He'll say absolutely! A BIG difference to handling at all speeds.
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Are special tools not required to remove and fit the springs? I'd like some of the ones which only lower a little too slammed, the car looks chavvy and broken IMHO. Arbs would be good since the golfs handling really needs tightening up to get the best out of her in the twisties.
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I'd like some of the ones which only lower a little too slammed, the car looks chavvy and broken IMHO. Arbs would be good since the golfs handling really needs tightening up to get the best out of her in the twisties.
....Eibach Pro-Kit springs are probably what you'd like.
Even just ARB's help reduce body roll on what is considered to be an excellent chassis but which can be further improved. It's one of those mods which doesn't get talked about very much as it's not visible!
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I would say if you're lowering for looks the Eibach pro aren't really that noticably different. If you want to improve handling and only going for 1 mod then arb's are the one to go for. :happy2: