MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: Homer on April 05, 2011, 10:37:17 am
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I was wondering if this was achievable and what would have to be done to get there? Thanks
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Yes,
Bacillus on here has done a few RR days and has made over 300bhp consistently. :happy2:
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I dont know him, do you know what he has done to achieve that figure? Thanks
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I dont know him, do you know what he has done to achieve that figure? Thanks
sold his soul and made a pact with the coalition government :wink:
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I think he has had everything added to it including HPFP and intercooler. He still won't give all his mods away though.
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Presumably de-cat too.
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300 bhp
I was wondering if this was achievable and what would have to be done to get there?
It is not with a K03.
For 300 HP you need a K04 + metallic cat + HPFP + S3 injectors. And a better clutch if it should last.
No way with K03.
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Errrr yes it is...
I was at the rr day when it made 302 and a bog standard Ed30 made 229.7 on the same rollers......with my own eyes.....
He did however irradiate his ECU with that green sh1t David Banner used on himself to turn himself into the Hulk, in fact everybody was that jealous they were going to shop him to the NHS for inappropriate use of the hospital radiology department.....
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that car of his makes around 300bhp no matter what rollers it goes on :smiley: he just knows how to set up his revo :rolleye:
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If you have 300 hp with a unmodified K03 the RR is crap.
:grin:
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in fact everybody was that jealous they were going to shop him to the NHS for inappropriate use of the hospital radiology department.....
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If you have 300 hp with a unmodified K03 the RR is crap.
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well i think you best take that up with the dyno dynamics rollers then oh and every other rr its been on and thats a few
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He did however irradiate his ECU with that green sh1t David Banner used on himself to turn himself into the Hulk
Speaking of green eyed monsters :signLOL:
If you have 300 hp with a unmodified K03 the RR is crap.
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In answer to your question Homer, No you wont get 300BHP, Bolt on everything available and set it up properly even for the particular days conditions and you wont really get over 280 BHP you might get the odd anomaly but in the real world you wont.
The Doc (Bacillus) also gets over 300 without a intake, Obviously he is adding something or has changed his Ko 3 in some way. He will say he hasn't but wont ever tell how he does it, which in it's self tells you something.
But also to add, even with every suspension mod and all the other bits related to traction you will get wheel spin if you use all the power so it's pointless unless you are on track or dont mind doing silly speeds on the road.
Yes you can modulate your right foot to stop the spin, but what you are doing is using less power. Pretty sure a 270- 280 BHP Ko 3 will easy keep up with a K0 4 on the road unless you start doing 120 plus were the exra power can be used.
Its better to have tons of power than not :evilgrin: but on the road you cant get the benefits. Though you can get your cock out on rolling road days and swing it about. :pomppomp:
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In answer to your question Homer, No you wont get 300BHP, Bolt on everything available and set it up properly even for the particular days conditions and you wont really get over 280 BHP you might get the odd anomaly but in the real world you wont.
The Doc (Bacillus) also gets over 300 without a intake, Obviously he is adding something or has changed his Ko 3 in some way. He will say he hasn't but wont ever tell how he does it, which in it's self tells you something.
But also to add, even with every suspension mod and all the other bits related to traction you will get wheel spin if you use all the power so it's pointless unless you are on track or dont mind doing silly speeds on the road.
Yes you can modulate your right foot to stop the spin, but what you are doing is using less power. Pretty sure a 270- 280 BHP Ko 3 will easy keep up with a K0 4 on the road unless you start doing 120 plus were the exra power can be used.
Its better to have tons of power than not :evilgrin: but on the road you cant get the benefits. Though you can get your cock out on rolling road days and swing it about. :pomppomp:
Very nicely put TC :notworthy:
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Even with a mere 230bhp its sometimes a struggle to get the power down, 99% of the remapping malarkey is just willy waving!
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Still think it's a shame VW didn't make a Haldex 2.0T like Audi did.
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Still think it's a shame VW didn't make a Haldex 2.0T like Audi did.
Ehh? Golf R?
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Your all forgetting the Seat Leon K03s Supercar though. That "apparently" makes 307bhp and beats RS4's :laugh:
In reality though Homer it is, as Top Cat says, nigh on impossible to get 300bhp from a K03. I had every conceivable mod on my car (except Nitrous or WMI) and i could not get anywhere near 300bhp. The most i have ever got is 270bhp. I know of one K03s car that got 285bhp and 350lb/ft. However the AFR looked like a print out of a lie detector test from Gaddafi. Subsequently that car was used to develop K03 Stage 2+ and that was toned down to a reliable 280bhp & 325lb/ft.
There is no way on this earth you could get that power from a standard intake. If you could then Bacillicus could make himself an absolute fortune by letting people in to his secret. As well as put CAI companies out of business on the 2.0TFSi :signLOL:
I wonder if he has WMI or a 25bhp Nitrous kit? :confused:
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Bacilius has a Twintake guys..
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Even with a mere 230bhp its sometimes a struggle to get the power down, 99% of the remapping malarkey is just willy waving!
Get your car remapped mate, then go back to standard and say the same.. No offence, but that's a ridiculous comment IMO.. :confused:
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Excuse my stupidity, but what is WMI?
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Water Methanol Injection mate
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Stock is like DSG
Boring :signLOL: :P
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Water Methanol Injection mate
Cheers dude! That makes more sense now
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Bacilius has a Twintake guys..
He never when he was getting 300. :happy2: And i agree having the power is so much better and in no way is getting a map worthless my comments are related to the ops original question. :happy2:
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Even with a mere 230bhp its sometimes a struggle to get the power down, 99% of the remapping malarkey is just willy waving!
You need a WALK :wink:
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Bacilius has a Twintake guys..
He never when he was getting 300. :happy2: And i agree having the power is so much better and in no way is getting a map worthless my comments are related to the ops original question. :happy2:
He did have the Twintake at the RS Tuning RR day last July. Even made 290bhp there and their rollers would give JKM a run for their money.. :signLOL:
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So he fitted a twintake and lost power :laugh:
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Stock is like manual
Slow! :signLOL: :P
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Still think it's a shame VW didn't make a Haldex 2.0T like Audi did.
Ehh? Golf R?
Is this not a site specific to mk5s? :wink:
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Even with a mere 230bhp its sometimes a struggle to get the power down, 99% of the remapping malarkey is just willy waving!
You need a WALK :wink:
Already got one mate! :happy2:
Even with a mere 230bhp its sometimes a struggle to get the power down, 99% of the remapping malarkey is just willy waving!
Get your car remapped mate, then go back to standard and say the same.. No offence, but that's a ridiculous comment IMO.. :confused:
I agree to an extent, as i had my old car remapped and the difference was night and day. However at present, getting power down out of corners is a bit of an issue sometimes... getting a map will only make that worse. To say my comment is ridiculous is ridiculous :signLOL: .. I'm just coming from the logical side of the argument.
Rich
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Stock is like manual
Slow! :signLOL: :P
until your computer says no :grin:
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I agree to an extent, as i had my old car remapped and the difference was night and day. However at present, getting power down out of corners is a bit of an issue sometimes... getting a map will only make that worse.
Which is why you need handling mods to help put down that power. As well as some skill :driver:
(not that I have any).
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am sure with a diff the 300-330bhp is manageable, but at stage 2+ on an ED30 if the flywheel figures are around 360-370 bhp what are the typical transmission losses?
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The average front wheel drive road car loses about 15% of the engine bhp as transmission losses. :smiley:
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bacilus's ar is either a freak of nature or hes telling fibbs about his mods as it always mega outperforms all the other stage 2+ cars at rolling road days :grin:
As said you will be able to hit 300hp or there abouts with water methanol injection but you would need the map to be custom tuned to utilise the higher octance effect that it gives, otherwise its just intercooling the inlet charge further.
The alternate method is to add nitrous like hurdy did. you would only need the smallest nozzle for 25hp to make the 300hp.
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bacilus's car is either a freak of nature or hes telling fibbs about his mods as it always mega outperforms all the other stage 2+ cars at rolling road days :grin:
A few folk have spotted me dabbling in the genetics labs... :laugh:
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Maybe he adds steroids to the 99RON :signLOL:
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ive found the key to his power
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Or it's not really K03 :laugh:
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Errrr yes it is...
He did however irradiate his ECU with that green sh1t David Banner used on himself to turn himself into the Hulk, in fact everybody was that jealous they were going to shop him to the NHS for inappropriate use of the hospital radiology department.....
Leave us 2 headed radiation workers out of it, I cant even remove a stone chip despite my radiation badge
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Mmmmm 300bhp from a standard ko3 !!!!, if that is the case he is defintootly running something differant from any of the normal aftermarket modifictions that the other gtis are running on here ! wheather its some mad aggresive mapping on race fuel who knows ?
My car had pretty much all the bolt ons and made 277 bhp on the rollers thats Remap, Intake, HPFP, discharge pipe, Turbo back exhaust and intercooler, The car was very quick at that !!
Some figures i was putting down on the manual was 0-60 in 5.3 secs and a 14 dead 1/4 mile although i defo could of improved on 1/4 mile time although i reccon the 0-60 was as good as it was going to get, the best power mod out side of the remap was the exhaust :happy2:
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Mmmmm 300bhp from a standard ko3 !!!!, if that is the case he is defintootly running something differant from any of the normal aftermarket modifictions that the other gtis are running on here ! wheather its some mad aggresive mapping on race fuel who knows ?
My car had pretty much all the bolt ons and made 277 bhp on the rollers thats Remap, Intake, HPFP, discharge pipe, Turbo back exhaust and intercooler, The car was very quick at that !!
Some figures i was putting down on the manual was 0-60 in 5.3 secs and a 14 dead 1/4 mile although i defo could of improved on 1/4 mile time although i reccon the 0-60 was as good as it was going to get, the best power mod out side of the remap was the exhaust :happy2:
5.3 seems mighty fine :congrats: but i thought the focus rs with its quaife diff and 300bhp out of factory only managed that in about 5.9 :confused:
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0-62 time is more about torque than power, if the RS has it all peaking at the top end rather than a nice flat spread then it might struggle no matter the fancy front suspension, 0-100 might be a different story. isn't the 300 hp figure quite often missed by the RS as well with most making around Gobble please figure when rolled.
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Mmmmm 300bhp from a standard ko3 !!!!, if that is the case he is defintootly running something differant from any of the normal aftermarket modifictions that the other gtis are running on here ! wheather its some mad aggresive mapping on race fuel who knows ?
My car had pretty much all the bolt ons and made 277 bhp on the rollers thats Remap, Intake, HPFP, discharge pipe, Turbo back exhaust and intercooler, The car was very quick at that !!
Some figures i was putting down on the manual was 0-60 in 5.3 secs and a 14 dead 1/4 mile although i defo could of improved on 1/4 mile time although i reccon the 0-60 was as good as it was going to get, the best power mod out side of the remap was the exhaust :happy2:
5.3 seems mighty fine :congrats: but i thought the focus rs with its quaife diff and 300bhp out of factory only managed that in about 5.9 :confused:
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To be fair to Gobbleplease, he's manual TC.. :wink: Otherwise (@ Stage 1) :booty: :signLOL: ...
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^^ is that a Stage 1 ed30?
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Bloody show off Ben. :angry015:
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^^ is that a Stage 1 ed30?
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Bloody show off Ben. :angry015:
:P
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^^ is that a Stage 1 ed30?
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Not sure if that a yes or a no..... but bl**dy hell thats quick! :jumping:
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^^ is that a Stage 1 ed30?
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Not sure if that a yes or a no..... but bl**dy hell thats quick! :jumping:
How about :happy2: :signLOL:
The 1/4 mile time was crap though.. :sad1:
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TC looking at your and bens graphs and following the trend of the lines through the grid its almost identical until about 50 where your line shallows and Ben's keeps on going straight almost looks like you lifted.
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TC looking at your and bens graphs and following the trend of the lines through the grid its almost identical until about 50 where your line shallows and Ben's keeps on going straight almost looks like you lifted.
Funny you should say that, this graph was from my duel with Hurdy when he had fitted his nitro, i left him for dead so relaxed and changed the CD. :driver: :rolleye:
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Yip thats a bloody good time for a k03 tc , to be fair that was the best 1/4 id done but i didnt feel it went that well, id done loads of 0-60 runs i felt i couldnt get better than the 5.3 with most of them being about the 5.7 ish
about the focus rs with the diff, imo the focus doesnt put its power down anywhere aswell as the golf with a few mods
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I don't underhand why the figures used are flywheel as this can only ever be a guess unless the engine is taken out. Surely it should all be at the wheel bhp as that is accurate dependent on the rollers. it takes the guess work out of the equation coz some figures are so far fetched some rollers seem to be adding any amount percentage.
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Yip thats a bloody good time for a k03 tc , to be fair that was the best 1/4 id done but i didnt feel it went that well, id done loads of 0-60 runs i felt i couldnt get better than the 5.3 with most of them being about the 5.7 ish
about the focus rs with the diff, imo the focus doesnt put its power down anywhere aswell as the golf with a few mods
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is that based on personal experience or mates who have a RS or just based on reading forums/magazines? Just interested if you could elaborate a bit more...
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No mate, i was going to buy a focus rs after i got rid of the gti, and i drove a few i even got one with out a salesman in it !
In the end the mrs insisted i got a 4 door so i ended up getting a bm but im going to be selling it soon to free up some cash so be getting a gti again soon !
As for the focus dont get me wrong i loved it and ill probably end up getting one when i can go back to 3 doors ! Its a lot more fun and envolving standard than a highly modded gti but im 100% sure it doesnt but its power down aswell eg my gti had 30 bhp less than the rs and my car would hit 60 nearly half a second quicker ! Ive not even seen the stage 2+ rs using injectors, intake, full zorst and map making those times when i was a member of rs oc, the torque steer was very much noticable on the rs too where as the gti no where near wanders about as much, i think the 1/4 mile times say a lot for both these cars (when modded) the edition 30 seems to win most of the time
It seems like it doesnt mater what you do the rs it struggles to hit 60 in to the low 5s now imo thats got to say something about its front end grip, ive seen a few ed 30 s here in the 4s with stage 2+
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No mate, i was going to buy a focus rs after i got rid of the gti, and i drove a few i even got one with out a salesman in it !
In the end the mrs insisted i got a 4 door so i ended up getting a bm but im going to be selling it soon to free up some cash so be getting a gti again soon !
As for the focus dont get me wrong i loved it and ill probably end up getting one when i can go back to 3 doors ! Its a lot more fun and envolving standard than a highly modded gti but im 100% sure it doesnt but its power down aswell eg my gti had 30 bhp less than the rs and my car would hit 60 nearly half a second quicker ! Ive not even seen the stage 2+ rs using injectors, intake, full zorst and map making those times when i was a member of rs oc, the torque steer was very much noticable on the rs too where as the gti no where near wanders about as much, i think the 1/4 mile times say a lot for both these cars (when modded) the edition 30 seems to win most of the time
It seems like it doesnt mater what you do the rs it struggles to hit 60 in to the low 5s now imo thats got to say something about its front end grip, ive seen a few ed 30 s here in the 4s with stage 2+
cheers. all interesting stuff