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Title: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: dajackel12 on April 07, 2011, 06:42:17 pm
Hey guys, As the title says my driver's side mirror glass was loose for the last few days, I went to check it out and it came off from the backing, The backing (with the 2 wires) seems to be fine but it's just the glass bit that's got unstuck from it,

I am wondering what's the best way to get this sorted? Can I just stick it back on with some glue to the backing? If so will the heated function still work?

Thanks
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: stealthwolf on April 07, 2011, 07:01:55 pm
The wires clip onto the mirror.

Can you push the mirror back onto the base? It may have just popped off, in which case it can be replaced.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: dajackel12 on April 07, 2011, 07:08:10 pm
Hi

Thanks for the quick reply,

I can put the glass back onto the backing bit (where the wires are connected) but it doesn't stick to that, I will quickly take a picture and upload it.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: dajackel12 on April 07, 2011, 07:25:07 pm
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Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: boxxer1973 on April 07, 2011, 07:51:33 pm
i got a funny feeling you have your mirror demisters on ? same happened to me they don't turn off and melts the glue
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: dajackel12 on April 07, 2011, 08:01:25 pm
Hi mate

The light's not on for the demisters? The mirrors been loose for a few weeks now so maybe it might have happened then but the passenger one seems to be fine? Is it a case of getting a new mirror and stick it back onto the backing thing? This is quite confusing lol
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: boxxer1973 on April 07, 2011, 08:02:38 pm
demisters dont have to be on, Have you got the mirror switch on demist?
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: dajackel12 on April 07, 2011, 08:46:49 pm
hi mate

I didn't know about the mirror switch on demist? I've recently purchased the car so still trying to figure everything out, I thought to demist the side mirrors and the rear screen you just press the button on top of the ac button next to the recirculate button (on climatic)? Sorry to sound a complete noob.

How would I know if the switch is on? (i'm presuming your referring to the mirror adjuster which has the L-0-R options) sorry mate,

Thanks
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: LouCyffer on April 07, 2011, 09:07:33 pm
Yes, it does have L O R but above those options at the 12 o clock position is a ~ symbol. This is the heated demist setting. If you've left the switch set at this point, the heaters are on. They are manual only & don't automatically shut off.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: dajackel12 on April 07, 2011, 09:58:27 pm
crap, will need to check this out. I've not noticed it before but may not have looked at it closely but I should mention that I have an 54 plate 1.9tdi not a GTI? i'm presuming this doesn't change anything.

anyway, in regards to the mirror glass, will I have to purchase just the glass only with the sticky back or will I need other components as well? I'm assuming my current one won't just stick on?
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: joesgti on April 07, 2011, 10:20:14 pm
Mine did the exact same, i just stuck them on with velcro for a temp fix, ended up like that for 12months as i completly forgot untill i saw this thred.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: dajackel12 on April 07, 2011, 10:22:21 pm
hi mate

yeah i just read that another member stuck it back on with that no more nails sticky pad,

Did the heated function work with the velcro? lol
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: winrya on April 07, 2011, 10:33:42 pm
Happened to both of mine 12 months ago after I left the heated glass on :laugh:

Glued them back in place with superglue and been perfect ever since.  Went through the winter perfectly with heaters working as they should!
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: dajackel12 on April 08, 2011, 10:16:49 pm
Hi guys

Thanks for the replies, Well I checked my mirror adjustment switch this morning and it was on the demist setting! damn, Anyway popped down to local store and picked up some of that No more nails sticky tape and some super glue. Stuck it back on but I went abit over the top with the superglue and some drained to the bottom and it formed a small blob on the bottom of the mirror, It starts to catch when i try and tilt the mirror down, I figured I'll clean it up properly tomorrow.

Then a few hours later the adjustment thing stopped working, only the driver's side (repaired side) isn't working, Also the driver's door does not lock at all. Everything else is fine such as the electric windows etc. I'm hoping it may just be a fuse and nothing more serious. I will check the fuses tomorrow update here.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: dajackel12 on April 08, 2011, 11:30:35 pm
Hi,

I know it's late but this thing was pi**ing me off so I checked the fuses and all of them are fine  :confused: what could be wrong with it now, this car has been nothing since problems since I got it. If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated, I'm really considering getting rid of it!.

Thanks
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off today! need advise!
Post by: golfecho5 on April 08, 2011, 11:55:59 pm
Someone whacked mine and something like this happened, best fix is Ebay and got new glass with wire for £10. Just plugs in and pops on, done job.
Title: Re: DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING! - Scanned - advise needed on scan
Post by: dajackel12 on April 09, 2011, 11:05:08 am
Thanks for the reply mate, Yeah If there is a next time I probably would just try and get a used one from eBay,

I still can't figure this door lock thing out, It's like a module or something isn't working, So far the Driver's door does not lock with the keyfob (it locks with the blade), the Driver's side mirror doesn't adjust, (the passenger side seems to be adjusting fine), and also the little yellow light that come's on when you press the lock button on the driver's door doesn't come on when pressed, Also from the keyfob when i lock it then indicators don't blind but i'm presuming this is because the driver's door isn't locking.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: dajackel12 on April 09, 2011, 03:54:17 pm
Just an update, Tried again checking fuses in just bear desperation but there all good. I can't actually hear the locking mechanism in the door when I press the fob. I think I may need to take the door card out now.

If anyone can help please post here as I am going mad over this now! argh
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: golfecho5 on April 09, 2011, 08:50:54 pm
Total long shot, but a Merc ML we had did this and it drove me mad. Checked all the fuses and nothing but had the car plug in and checked and it was a relay that was faulty - worth a look because it's really annoying.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: dajackel12 on April 09, 2011, 09:05:31 pm
Thanks for the info mate, I need to find someone with VAGCOM down in Leicester.

It is extremely annoying !

Thanks again
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: Eddie-NL on April 09, 2011, 09:35:05 pm
Hi
Get the vag com done and post up the results
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: dajackel12 on April 09, 2011, 09:40:54 pm
Thanks Eddie, Will do once I get it scanned.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: dajackel12 on June 14, 2011, 03:32:10 pm
hey guys

just got it scanned and the results are below:


VCDS Version: Release 10.6.4 (x64)
Data version: 20110418

Tuesday,14,June,2011,15:28:57:10074

Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 7D

VIN: xxxx   Mileage: 156410km/97188miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.lbl
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 CB    HW: 028 101 190 0
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  6176  
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0D0586955
   Coding: 0000071
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 65C5B5A7D5F1

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104  
   Coding: 0021121
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3A7F36DB0CCF

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 CR
   Component: Climatic PQ35   081 0404  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 76E7E2EB7857

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 S    HW: 1K0 937 049 S*
   Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0704  
   Revision: 00030000    Serial number: 00000000997349
   Coding: E4890F0600041800001400001400000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3F8947CF17ED

   Part No: 1K2 955 119 B
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0401  
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   Part No: 1K0 955 559 M
   Component: RegenLichtSens 005  0605  
   Coding: 00217125
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

3 Faults Found:
01064 - Terminal 58d; Interior Dimming
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00988 - Lamp for Brake Light; Right (M10)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00987 - Lamp for Brake Light; Left (M9)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 H    HW: 1K0 909 605 H
   Component: 02 AIRBAG VW8   023 0700  
   Revision: 06023000    Serial number: 00385D0KG1L1  
   Coding: 0012338
   Shop #: WSC 01268 785 00200
   VCID: 316D11F7D1B9

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 A    HW: 1K0 953 549 A
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 500 0030  
   Coding: 0000022
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 306B14F3DAB3

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 920 951 G
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 0716  
   Coding: 0003403
   Shop #: WSC 00349 210 88197
   VCID: 2D550D87CD81

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 E    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: Gateway         H09 0110  
   Revision: 09          Serial number: 270010490800B0
   Coding: 3D0F0B40070003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 295DF997F969

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K0 920 951 G
   Component: IMMO            VDD 0716  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D550D87CD81

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 E
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0148  
   Coding: 0000052
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 306B14F3DAB3

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 G
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.2       1301  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 306B14F3DAB3

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 BL
   Component: 01 KSG              0301  
   Coding: 80C802087F2D8505485BC69010
   Shop #: WSC 00873 210 91881
   VCID: 7BF1F3DF4375

   Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H02 1301

   Part No: 1K0 907 719
   Component: Neigungssensor  003 0003

   Part No: 1K0 951 177
   Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0101

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 E
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0154  
   Coding: 0000052
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 316D11F7D1B9

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 035 186 L
   Component: Radio BVX       010 0022  
   Coding: 0040400
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2F69178FC78D

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404  
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:              
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D550D87CD81

No fault code found.

End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------



any ideas?
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: Richn83 on June 14, 2011, 07:12:39 pm
So nothing is showing up for the drivers side door module which controls all the items in the door (central locking, window winder control light for locking button mirror control etc)

If you still have the cable it would be worth doing an output test on the driver door control module as it will allow you to cycle through the functions of the controller to narrow down the error.

As a further comment you can adjust the heater timings for the rear window and the mirrors in one of the module in 1 minute increments, standard on my car was 10 minutes. (I cant remember which module right now as I was on a random look through long coding)
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: dajackel12 on June 14, 2011, 07:51:27 pm
thanks for the reply mate,

I've still got the cable but to be honest I don't know how to do the test on the driver control module  :ashamed:

i'll have a good look through the settings later today, is there any other tricks that I can do while i've got the cable?

thanks
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: Richn83 on June 14, 2011, 09:19:48 pm
if you go into the driver door module, will be in the select module tab, then click on output test, it will then prompt you to click start and it will cycle through often with you pressing next as prompted on the screen, it will do things like flash the indicator, move mirror put window up and down cycle the locking mechanism.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: dajackel12 on June 15, 2011, 12:09:14 am
hey mate,

I forgot one thing, I was going through the settings before i performed that scan above and in one of the modules I found the code below, but I tried to clear the code then I performed the main scan, luckily before I cleared it I saved it! I'm pretty sure it's related to the door.



Tuesday,14,June,2011,15:24:34:10074
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.4 (x64)

                Address 42: Door Elect, Driver       Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 959 701 E
  Component and/or Version: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0148
           Software Coding: 0000052
            Work Shop Code: WSC 01279 785 00200
                      VCID: 306B14F3DAB3
1 Fault Found:

00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220)
        008 - Implausible Signal
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: Eddie-NL on June 15, 2011, 06:21:59 am
sounds like the wiring could be causing the problem. check where the door loom plugs into the iterior loom
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: Richn83 on June 15, 2011, 08:29:12 am
hey mate,

I forgot one thing, I was going through the settings before i performed that scan above and in one of the modules I found the code below, but I tried to clear the code then I performed the main scan, luckily before I cleared it I saved it! I'm pretty sure it's related to the door.



Tuesday,14,June,2011,15:24:34:10074
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.4 (x64)

                Address 42: Door Elect, Driver       Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 959 701 E
  Component and/or Version: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0148
           Software Coding: 0000052
            Work Shop Code: WSC 01279 785 00200
                      VCID: 306B14F3DAB3
1 Fault Found:

00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220)
        008 - Implausible Signal


That sounds like the error, this is what the ross tech Wiki says for that
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00928 (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00928)

So as Eddie says you might have a loose cable somewhere.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror came off -EDIT NOW DOOR WON'T LOCK+ADJUSTER NOT WORKING!
Post by: dajackel12 on June 15, 2011, 11:17:14 am
hey guys

thanks for the advise, I'm going to check the wires later today, I'll keep this thread updated!

thanks again