MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: B8CLN on April 08, 2011, 05:45:43 pm

Title: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: B8CLN on April 08, 2011, 05:45:43 pm: :driver:
Hi

I have recently bought a MK6 flat bottom steering wheel without the multifunction to put on to my MK5 golf gt sport without multifunction. I have fitted it today but my horn doesn't work. Please can any one help and give me part numbers or advice.

Thanks in advance

Colin
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: danishmkvgti on April 08, 2011, 07:42:41 pm: you need the revision C slipring, what year is your car??
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: B8CLN on April 08, 2011, 08:04:10 pm: It's a 58 plate
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: Eddie-NL on April 09, 2011, 08:28:25 am: What Airbag loom are you using?
Does it have a black plug?
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: B8CLN on April 09, 2011, 10:04:00 am: It's a yellow plug ,on the mk6 wheel there is also a small black plug which I don't have anywhere to plug it into
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: Eddie-NL on April 09, 2011, 10:24:22 am: Quote from: B8CLN on April 09, 2011, 10:04:00 am
It's a yellow plug ,on the mk6 wheel there is also a small black plug which I don't have anywhere to plug it into

That is the problem.

You have a loom from a MFSW

You need a loom without the black plug, try using your old one
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: B8CLN on April 14, 2011, 08:33:36 pm: At last got my horn working had to fit a new wiring loom to the airbag and that was it.thanks to everyone that helped especially Gareth at www.vwcruise.com check this guy out for retro fitting vw stuff he,s spot on :happy2:

cheers Colin.
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: apollo13 on April 14, 2011, 08:36:08 pm: Quote from: B8CLN on April 14, 2011, 08:33:36 pm
At last got my horn working had to fit a new wiring loom to the airbag and that was it.thanks to everyone that helped especially Gareth at www.vwcruise.com check this guy out for retro fitting vw stuff he,s spot on :happy2:

cheers Colin.

Glad you got it sorted Colin :happy2:

Although there are people on here that will do retrofitting cheaper than those guys :grin:
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: B8CLN on April 14, 2011, 09:19:35 pm: No problem cheers
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: hkp on August 27, 2011, 10:31:17 pm: Hey Colin, just resurrecting this thread!

So to fit a Mk6 Non MF wheel to a Mk5 Non MF manual car, then no mods are needed as long as you have the correct airbag loom?

I was under the impression that if you wanted to fit any Mk6 wheel (even Non MF) you needed a C revision Slip ring and an updated CH steering wheel control module..

I'm not too fussed by multi function as I have an aftermarket stereo anyway. If this was plug and play then I'd definitely do this mod!
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: danishmkvgti on August 27, 2011, 10:48:52 pm: Quote from: hkp on August 27, 2011, 10:31:17 pm
Hey Colin, just resurrecting this thread!

So to fit a Mk6 Non MF wheel to a Mk5 Non MF manual car, then no mods are needed as long as you have the correct airbag loom?

I was under the impression that if you wanted to fit any Mk6 wheel (even Non MF) you needed a C revision Slip ring and an updated CH steering wheel control module..

I'm not too fussed by multi function as I have an aftermarket stereo anyway. If this was plug and play then I'd definitely do this mod!

If you want MF you need those 2 parts, and if you have CC you need the mk 6 CC stalk also :happy2:
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Post by: hkp on August 27, 2011, 10:52:44 pm: Hey Danish, Thanks for the reply :)

I don't want MF, and haven't got it currently.. Will I still need the control module? I was assuming from Colin's post above that I wouldn't...
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: Eddie-NL on August 29, 2011, 10:03:32 pm: No, it's a straight swop
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: hkp on September 16, 2011, 06:52:52 pm: Damn. I've got the little black plug too in my non MFSW wheel. I guess this supplier in Portugal (where they all seem to come from) only has MFSW Airbags. Does anyone know the correct loom I need to fit onto a non MFSW mk5?

Thanks!
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: JoeDarKa on September 16, 2011, 07:00:41 pm: I have one sitting in my garage. Want to do a swap?
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Post by: hkp on September 16, 2011, 09:45:08 pm: The loom on my MK6 air bag is 5K0 971 584 A which I assume is a multi function loom. So if I want to fit this non multifunction wheel to my non multi function Mk 5, does anyone know what loom I need? (part number)

Thanks again!
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: Eddie-NL on September 16, 2011, 10:36:44 pm: The part number is 5K0 971 584 is for a mk6 wheel without multifunction

I also have one if you want to swop
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Post by: hkp on September 16, 2011, 10:37:47 pm: Yes please Eddie NL!
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Post by: hkp on September 17, 2011, 02:38:39 pm: I'm half suspecting that 5K0 971 584 (Mk.6 airbag harness non MF) is the same as 1KO 971 584 (A/K) (Mk5 Non MFSW) and 5KO 971 584A is the same as 1KO 971 584 C (L) which is the harness for Mk.5 MFSW.

So basically, the harnesses are the same between Mk 5 and Mk 6 and that you just need either a MF one or a non MF one.

Which leads me onto the next assumption that my Mk 5 harness will fit my Mk 6 wheel!!

(so I might not need to swap)
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: Eddie-NL on September 17, 2011, 09:29:35 pm: They are slightly different the mk6 has a tubular connector that fits to the base of the airbag. This is not on a MK5 loom
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: OLLIE_JETTA_MK5 on September 20, 2011, 10:40:38 pm: sorry to ask the same question

i have a 2007 jetta without mfsw and i want a rocco wheel . are you saying that i might already have the loom installed to have mfsw ?

so is it best to order a mk6.rocco wheel with mfsw that way all thing will work and ill have steering controls ?

Thanks
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: hkp on September 20, 2011, 10:46:21 pm: Hey mate,

From what i can work out, if you don't have MFSW, you'll need a new steering wheel controller, and it'll need to be coded.

If you don't have MFSW, and you buy a mk6 non-MFSW, it'll bolt right on (if you get the correct airbag loom - I didn't, neither did Colin). Just make sure you insist the seller sells you the correct loom for Non-MFSW!
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: Andy on September 20, 2011, 10:53:43 pm: can't answer any tech questions but they do look good :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fcc20%2Fmaxitrol%2FIMG_0019.jpg&hash=3368ac90afd22e6efcbbd58b03ad471bd56599a7)
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: hkp on September 20, 2011, 10:57:15 pm: :notworthy:
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: Eddie-NL on September 21, 2011, 06:36:10 am: Quote from: OLLIE_JETTA_MK5 on September 20, 2011, 10:40:38 pm
sorry to ask the same question

i have a 2007 jetta without mfsw and i want a rocco wheel . are you saying that i might already have the loom installed to have mfsw ?

so is it best to order a mk6.rocco wheel with mfsw that way all thing will work and ill have steering controls ?

Thanks

You will need

Scirocco MFSW inc airbag with mfsw loom
1K0 953 549CH Steering controller
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: OLLIE_JETTA_MK5 on September 22, 2011, 06:51:50 am: thanks so much mate !
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on September 22, 2011, 07:07:01 am: Quote from: maxitrol on September 20, 2011, 10:53:43 pm
can't answer any tech questions but they do look good :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fcc20%2Fmaxitrol%2FIMG_0019.jpg&hash=3368ac90afd22e6efcbbd58b03ad471bd56599a7)

Looking good! Do you know if it's possible to prize off the Vw badge in the middle?
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: JoeDarKa on September 22, 2011, 09:44:51 am: Isnt the badge attached to the airbag? I would be careful!
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Post by: Tfsi_Mike on September 23, 2011, 09:33:41 am: Quote from: JoeDarKa on September 22, 2011, 09:44:51 am
Isnt the badge attached to the airbag? I would be careful!

The Vw golf 6 / Rocco flat bottomed looks alot better than the seat one but I dont know if the Seat airbag I the same shape :(
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: hkp on September 27, 2011, 09:11:36 pm: Finally got mine done thanks to everyone here :)

Looks good no?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Ftomstacey%2Fhella%2F4.jpg&hash=dfdd842c0f2d8fa802c490a07deca743f9da88a5)
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Post by: Andy on September 28, 2011, 12:07:33 am: looks good :happy2:
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Post by: Stevenebm on September 28, 2011, 12:22:22 am: lovely.this is definetly on my to do list.hoping a non mfsw one comes up for sale here at decent price.
Title: Re: MK6 steering wheel on to a MK5
Post by: Eddie-NL on September 28, 2011, 07:27:54 pm: Quote from: hkp on September 27, 2011, 09:11:36 pm
Finally got mine done thanks to everyone here :)

Looks good no?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Ftomstacey%2Fhella%2F4.jpg&hash=dfdd842c0f2d8fa802c490a07deca743f9da88a5)

Looks nice, glad it is all sorted.

still find it hard to believe that sellers of these wheels send them with the wrong looms. I bought a MK6 MFSW and got a standard loom :confused: