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Title: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: craig_t on April 08, 2011, 08:59:33 pm
Just wondering cause I just took my car out after not driving it for a week, and it felt a little sluggish : /

Maybe as the weather is getting warmer that has an effect on performance.
Title: Re: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: Saint Steve on April 08, 2011, 09:17:51 pm
Answer to your question is yes.

you'll suffer heat soak even in standard guise.

larger intercooler will help, but only to a certain degree
Title: Re: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: Homer on April 08, 2011, 09:32:41 pm
What the fudge is heat soak??  :confused:
Title: Re: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: PDT on April 08, 2011, 09:49:36 pm
Heat soak is when engine components such as intercoolers/intakes get too hot.
Title: Re: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: Hurdy on April 08, 2011, 11:32:37 pm
^^^and as a result of the above the power drops off^^^ :happy2:
Title: Re: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: Nasir on April 08, 2011, 11:53:05 pm
Am I correct in thinking this doesn't happen to the R32? N/A engines in general?
Title: Re: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: Hurdy on April 09, 2011, 12:25:03 am
^^^N/A engines can still get heat soak too^^^ :smiley:
Title: Re: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: Nasir on April 09, 2011, 09:33:06 am
^^^N/A engines can still get heat soak too^^^ :smiley:

Ahh ok. Are turbos less effective in warm weather?
Title: Re: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: keano on April 09, 2011, 11:18:21 am


larger intercooler will help, but only to a certain degree

Waheyyy!!!!  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 09, 2011, 12:10:52 pm
^^^N/A engines can still get heat soak too^^^ :smiley:

Ahh ok. Are turbos less effective in warm weather?
yes.  my stage 1 struggled in the summer.  youshould log the Intake air temperatures (IATs) on your car on a full wide open throttle run (WOT) from 2-6k.  my IATs rocketed from 32degrees to in the 50s, and took an age to cool down.

Tuners tend to say for every degree rise in your IATs you could lose 1hp.  not sure how accurate it is, but it would make sense i guess
Title: Re: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: animal on April 09, 2011, 12:16:50 pm
Unless you are running an unsheilded open cone, you really dont have too much to worry about, espeically on a turbo car with an IC to help with charge temps. Heat soak is really an issue for N/A cars when every degree of charge temps helps. An open-cone on an R32 would have it bogging down and struggling at low RPM.

At speed, it becomes less of an issue as cooling is for more efficient and air is being delivered through the intake at higher pressure.
Title: Re: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 09, 2011, 12:43:31 pm
Unless you are running an unsheilded open cone, you really dont have too much to worry about, espeically on a turbo car with an IC to help with charge temps. Heat soak is really an issue for N/A cars when every degree of charge temps helps. An open-cone on an R32 would have it bogging down and struggling at low RPM.

At speed, it becomes less of an issue as cooling is for more efficient and air is being delivered through the intake at higher pressure.

the TFSI engine does suffer with heat soak when using the stock IC, even more so when tuned.  Until you see the logs of how much the IATs rise, and then compare it to that of a car with an uprated IC then you will see the difference.

I logged mine stage 2+ vRS(stock IC) and mikes stage 2+ cupra (apr IC) his stayed pretty much at the ambient temperature and any rise in temp recovered very very quickly.  mine rose about 20degrees and took ages to return to ambient.  these cars need an IC when tuned IMO. 
Title: Re: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: Homer on April 09, 2011, 01:07:40 pm
sorry but what is an IC? Intercooler?
Title: Re: Can you get heat soak with a stage1 map??
Post by: Saint Steve on April 09, 2011, 02:12:45 pm


larger intercooler will help, but only to a certain degree


Waheyyy!!!!  :grin: :grin:

arh someone spotted it  :laugh:  :happy2: