MK5 Golf GTI

General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Homer on April 16, 2011, 05:18:59 pm

Title: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Homer on April 16, 2011, 05:18:59 pm
was talking to a mate the other day who was seeing the car for the first time, its ok he says but then goes on to say its basically just a box, you should have bought a Civic Tyre R which has great styling. I dont know what it is but anyone saying something about your car feels like a very personal attack, after a brief argument whereby I nearly punched him I calmed by reminding myself this guy drives a 1980s clapped out beamer and knows nothing about cars. Sorry just had to rant there   :mad:
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 16, 2011, 05:25:57 pm
The new Civic is a great car to be honest.  I drive Skodas, so im the base of loads of abuse, which is great, i love it.  Especially when i dont let them know my car has been fiddled with and they cant keep up.

With the Octavia, it was brilliant as i could say you got spanked by a big heavy Skoda 5 door family hatch back, with the new fabia vRS, i can say you got spanked by a Skoda with 1.4l engine. 

And if i get spanked they have only beaten a skoda, so i win either way.
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: GNJ_Motorsport on April 16, 2011, 05:57:24 pm
Anyone that slates the looks of the GTI is quite clearly either blind or jealous. Don't let it bother you.
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: TrickGTI on April 16, 2011, 05:59:36 pm
It's usually because the gti is over looked when people are looking for a small hot hatch and as the gti isn't known for it's extremely good engine for Tuneing people just think they are a average hot hatch and nothing special. Then when they come up against one in their type r and think I'm guna waste him the stage 2+ gti goes sailing into the distance  :signLOL: same applies to the skoda clang ^^^^ no one wants to be beat by a skoda  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Jack Rabbit on April 16, 2011, 06:36:46 pm
Get a sticker that says I love haters  :grin:
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: TagnuT on April 16, 2011, 07:19:48 pm
Yee, I agree they are cr*p.  :fighting:




Only joking  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: stealthwolf on April 16, 2011, 07:37:33 pm
should have bought a Civic Tyre R which has great styling
Is this the same Type R that Clarkson road tested? The one where the rear spoiler obstructs the rear view? The one where the seats don't go back into the same position after moving them forwards? The one where is beeps at everything you do, whether it's leave the keys in or take them out? The one which is slower than its predecessor despite being more powerful? The one that Clarkson hated?

You should get him to watch the review of the GTI on Top Gear.

IMO the strength of the GTI is its subtle styling and its ability at being an all-rounder.
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Gtiain on April 16, 2011, 07:42:55 pm
I think the type r looks great. That's about it..............
I've heard everything about it is not as good as it's predecessor, Not good progress. Don't get me wrong, I've not driven the type r so I'm only going on what I've heard from friends and journo's.

Like ^^^^^ said, the gti is nice and subtle. Not in your face chav like say the rs focus.
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 16, 2011, 07:52:58 pm
i worked for Honda for over 10 years and had both versions of the last shape type r and as soon as the new one landed i got the keys for the day  :driver: i ended up taking it back after a few hours saying its lost it edge  :sad1: was just too safe
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: gazcupra on April 16, 2011, 08:09:28 pm
It's usually because the gti is over looked when people are looking for a small hot hatch and as the gti isn't known for it's extremely good engine for Tuneing people just think they are a average hot hatch and nothing special. Then when they come up against one in their type r and think I'm guna waste him the stage 2+ gti goes sailing into the distance  :signLOL: same applies to the skoda clang ^^^^ no one wants to be beat by a skoda  :signLOL:

What would Harl say??  :surprised: :surprised: haha
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: TrickGTI on April 16, 2011, 08:19:02 pm
Exactly that gaz ha. He was gutted when I preswaded you to go vag because he knew his jap can couldn't keep with us  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on April 16, 2011, 08:25:54 pm
I had a new civic in White before I got the golf and it was gorgeous  :grin: but attracted too much attention and I was worried every time I parked it up.
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: PDT on April 16, 2011, 08:35:56 pm
Civic type R = torquless sh*tbox for people that feel the need to drive everywhere making lots of noise waiting fot 'vtec to kick in' usually wearing low cut JLS style tops and a diamond earing.

I love the fact honda have used turbo's in their 2011 BTCC cars :signLOL:
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 16, 2011, 08:53:51 pm
the civic type R engine has been discontinued due to EU emission regulations anyway.  rumours have it they are going to produce a turbo charged engine next.

The new Civic Type R is a gorgeous looking car, give it a tunable turbo charged engine and id have one
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on April 16, 2011, 09:24:00 pm
Civic type R = torquless sh*tbox for people that feel the need to drive everywhere making lots of noise waiting fot 'vtec to kick in' usually wearing low cut JLS style tops and a diamond earing.

I love the fact honda have used turbo's in their 2011 BTCC cars :signLOL:

Disagree! The old style is driven by those stereotypes but not the new one.
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: berg on April 16, 2011, 09:29:21 pm
the civic type R engine has been discontinued due to EU emission regulations anyway.  rumours have it they are going to produce a turbo charged engine next.

The new Civic Type R is a gorgeous looking car, give it a tunable turbo charged engine and id have one


mmmm not sure i think these shapes can be so radical that they age badly whereas boxy VW's and Beemers can look better with age ie the MK3 Gti looks quite cool now but when it came out it looked fair rubbish compared to MK2 whereas old preludes, mr2's, civics etc looked good at time but crap now
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Bane on April 16, 2011, 09:50:39 pm
A colleugue of mine has an old style Type R and he raved about it and constanlty talked about "when the Vtec kicks in at around 5k it flies!".
I threw him the keys of my ED30 and said go for a spin.
20mins later,he came back and as I expected the "it's alright,but it aint no Vtec" looked at me and said....."Thats a fecking AWESOME machine,theres just so much torque in any gear! Wanna swap?" :signLOL:
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: roamer1711 on April 16, 2011, 10:00:19 pm
The look of my Golf makes me smile. The sound makes my heart race. The fuel consumption makes me cry and yet would I change it not a chance :fighting:
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 16, 2011, 10:01:05 pm
pal of mine had full TBE, intake, new ECU and remap on his mk1 type R, spent about 2.5k on it, then was horrified when he couldnt keep up with my vRS  that had a £350 bluefin stage remap on it.  

He sold up and bought a vRS as well lol.  Hes gone crazy now though and drives a 450hp EVO IX lol.  reckons he'll never go to a non turbo car again
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: gazon69 on April 17, 2011, 08:06:29 am
ha this so makes me laugh. should have seen a guys face 1 time when I had my mk1 octy. I was on a dual carriageway and pulled along side him. he really thought he'd got something special, I left him for dead, my 50 yr old father in law was in with me and as we ended the carriageway he was nowhere so I waited for him as he pulled back along side me he popped his window down a said "dude that's rapid what's in it" to which my father inlaw replied "'there w**k, buy a skoda". I nearly wet myself and he wheelspun off nearly crying. lol. don't let em get to ya buddy.
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Gene Hunt on April 17, 2011, 08:18:32 am
The look of my Golf makes me smile. The sound makes my heart race. The fuel consumption makes me cry and yet would I change it not a chance :fighting:
......... :happy2:  :congrats:  :congrats:....same for me. :smiley:
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: E30Dom on April 17, 2011, 10:13:35 am
I bought a ctr after my R32... Regretted it so much after 300miles it stayed in the garage till I could sell it... Lost about 2k on it but just wanted rid! Lol
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: ub7rm on April 17, 2011, 11:26:51 am
I don't see the point in having this sort of argument; as they say opinions are like arseholes, everyone's got one but as long as you're happy with your choice is all that matters.  Life would be boring if we were all the same.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Homer on April 18, 2011, 09:26:37 am
Thanks for the input folks. Just to add, had a honda civic coupe 1.7, engine was relaible and solid but the bodywork literally started falling apart after 7/8 years from a car which i had bought brand new. This is a common thing with Hondas from what I have seen and heard. Have heard good things about the VW build quality so am hoping this is not an issue with my Golf.
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: MPS on April 18, 2011, 10:26:58 am
he popped his window down a said "dude that's rapid what's in it" to which my father inlaw replied "'there w**k, buy a skoda". I nearly wet myself and he wheelspun off nearly crying. lol.


 :grin:  :congrats:
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: cmdrfire on April 18, 2011, 12:41:08 pm
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Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: cmdrfire on April 18, 2011, 12:43:11 pm
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Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: cmdrfire on April 18, 2011, 12:44:57 pm
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...I'll get back to work now...  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: MPS on April 18, 2011, 12:52:11 pm
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Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 18, 2011, 12:53:22 pm
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Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: MPS on April 18, 2011, 12:53:37 pm
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Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 18, 2011, 12:54:06 pm
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Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: cmdrfire on April 18, 2011, 12:54:55 pm
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Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: cmdrfire on April 18, 2011, 12:55:27 pm
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Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: MPS on April 18, 2011, 12:55:33 pm
My VTEC hamsta jus' kicked in y0!!!



 :grin:
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 18, 2011, 12:55:42 pm
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this one just made me laugh.



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Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: MPS on April 18, 2011, 01:00:06 pm
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Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 18, 2011, 01:02:05 pm
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Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: MPS on April 18, 2011, 01:02:51 pm
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Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 18, 2011, 01:15:22 pm
we can slate it all day but if you watch these you can see it more than holds up for itself. 





If they were to turbo charge the 2.0VTEC engine it would be immense.  Few tuners do that already making 300Hp+ and with the amount of revs available that would be pretty awesome
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Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Poverty on April 19, 2011, 12:16:05 am
Went up against loads of turboed and charged type-r's in my, k1 revo stage 2 plus and they where still slower.

Id have one for track duty, but for everyday driving no way, too slow.

Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 19, 2011, 12:22:55 am
would still take a turbo'd VTEC over the stage 2+ k04.  Outright speed isnt everything
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Poverty on April 19, 2011, 12:57:20 am
would still take a turbo'd VTEC over the stage 2+ k04.  Outright speed isnt everything

I wouldnt, the turbo ruins what the type r was best at.
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 19, 2011, 01:15:55 am
IMO the one thing it was missing was torque, the turbo provides it, as well as more power
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: vRS Carl on April 19, 2011, 07:20:52 am
201 lb/ft is less than a golf/vRS etc makes as standard.
Title: Re: Some people just cant stop slagging off GTIs...
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 19, 2011, 10:33:21 am
figures dont matter, its the area under the graph that counts and the type R has an extra 3000rpm to gain that area.  Thats the reason it can hold its own with so much less torque when compared standard for standard.