MK5 Golf GTI

General => Detailing => Topic started by: parks on April 17, 2011, 07:45:23 am

Title: Tardis or clay
Post by: parks on April 17, 2011, 07:45:23 am
It seems to me from reading detailing threads that these do a similar job, removal of tar etc. What do people favour? I've uses clay but the tardis seems popular.
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: stealthwolf on April 17, 2011, 08:35:40 am
Claying realistically slices off top of the tar, so you can have some left behind. Claying is probably fine for very light/superficial tar spots.

Tardis is supposed to dissolve the tar spots and shift it completely.

I'd recommend using tardis and would use it before claying the car. Am not sure but I think claying would also rub the tar over the paintwork, which is not something you want.
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: Neil on April 17, 2011, 08:39:56 am


I'd recommend using tardis and would use it before claying the car.

That`s exactly what I do  :happy2:
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: parks on April 17, 2011, 09:24:12 am
Bloody expensive forum making me spend money.

Will get some and some bilburry wheel cleaner I hear so much about!  :drinking:
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: stealthwolf on April 17, 2011, 02:44:58 pm
Hope you have some brushes to clean the wheels with!

EZ wheel brushes are great for getting behind the face.
Raceglaze/envy/swissvax style brushes are great for the face, and for other bits like trim, panel gaps etc.
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: parks on April 17, 2011, 09:01:28 pm
i have a long ish one to get to the insides thens a small autoglym one for working the corners,

much easier to take the wheel off to clean it!

could do with a wheel sealant though...


Does anyone know of a single website that sells Tardis and Bilberry as i dont want to pay double postage  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: stealthwolf on April 17, 2011, 09:19:36 pm
I tend to get my stuff from elitecarcare but they have only the 5litre stuff in stock.
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: parks on April 17, 2011, 09:21:17 pm
I tend to get my stuff from elitecarcare but they have only the 5litre stuff in stock.


bit OTT for me i thinks, cheers though
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: mattyw on April 17, 2011, 10:43:47 pm
There's sellers on eBay mate
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: vRSAlex on April 17, 2011, 11:13:33 pm
Its worth getting the 5 litres and a spray bottle as you will go through loads in a year.  The stuff lasts forever too.

I tardis first then clay.  If you clay first then it just covers the clay in tar.
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: alexperkins on April 18, 2011, 07:30:23 am
Does it need to be a solvent resistant spray bottle though. Ive got loads but im scared itll melt the bottle  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: Steve Baker on April 18, 2011, 02:50:20 pm
You may be better off finding your local Autosmart franchise for Tardis.  :happy2:

http://www.autosmart.co.uk/Retail%20Cleaners.html
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: Neil on April 18, 2011, 05:46:31 pm


Will get some and some bilburry wheel cleaner I hear so much about!  :drinking:

If you`re anywhere near me you`re quite welcome to a sample of Bilberry, I`ve got plenty but don`t seem to be getting through it   :happy2:
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: parks on April 18, 2011, 06:12:42 pm


Will get some and some bilburry wheel cleaner I hear so much about!  :drinking:

If you`re anywhere near me you`re quite welcome to a sample of Bilberry, I`ve got plenty but don`t seem to be getting through it   :happy2:

That's kind, I'm in tonbridge, Kent.....
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: Neil on April 18, 2011, 06:20:13 pm
Boroughbridge, North Yorkshire, miles away  :laugh:

Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: parks on April 18, 2011, 06:28:09 pm
 :laugh:

Not to worry then, appreciate the offer

  :drinking:
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: craigy123 on April 19, 2011, 12:07:19 pm
i have a long ish one to get to the insides thens a small autoglym one for working the corners,

much easier to take the wheel off to clean it!

could do with a wheel sealant though...


Does anyone know of a single website that sells Tardis and Bilberry as i dont want to pay double postage  :ashamed:

Keith from washshop on here mate, and there is a forum discount  :happy2:
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: parks on April 19, 2011, 08:48:58 pm
i have a long ish one to get to the insides thens a small autoglym one for working the corners,

much easier to take the wheel off to clean it!

could do with a wheel sealant though...


Does anyone know of a single website that sells Tardis and Bilberry as i dont want to pay double postage  :ashamed:

Keith from washshop on here mate, and there is a forum discount  :happy2:

had a peek but cant see Tardis on his site though  :sad1: wanting the envy 4/5 pack of brushes, cheapest ive found is

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Envy-Brushes-4-brush-set-(the-original-and-best)-_W0QQitemZ150586945336QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=226138946582&rvr_id=226138946582&cguid=6f49b44612f0a0aa15a10a11fffe8a2a
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: stealthwolf on April 19, 2011, 08:52:43 pm
Yeah I bought the same ones except I got 5 for the price.
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: parks on April 19, 2011, 08:57:21 pm
Yeah I bought the same ones except I got 5 for the price.

the recession playing its part i guess.
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: Neil on April 19, 2011, 09:08:45 pm
Envy brushes, good choice  :happy2:

I`ve been getting them off Tim for a while having previously used the original Swissvax brushes but I prefer the plastic handle to the wooden Swissvax  handle, hence my choice of Envy brushes  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: James B on April 19, 2011, 09:14:20 pm
Just something to note when using a tar remover such as Tardis and clay afterwards, is make sure you wash over the areas treated with the tar remover before putting you clay near it, as it will dissolve that too ;)

But all the advise so far has been bang on, use a tar remover first then clay after.
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: parks on April 19, 2011, 09:33:52 pm
Goes off to find

Tardis
Detailing brushes
Bilberry

From one seller... maybe

I'd wash the tardis off with the ph neutral snow foam (2 bucket method), that ok?
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: stealthwolf on April 19, 2011, 10:00:28 pm
Rinsing should be enough TBH. I'd refrain from washing until after the claying session.
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: James B on April 19, 2011, 10:59:03 pm
Personally id rinse and wash the areas down with some shampoo, but there's no hard and fast rule to detailing  :happy2:
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: SimonBash on April 20, 2011, 02:23:43 pm
Personally id rinse and wash the areas down with some shampoo, but there's no hard and fast rule to detailing  :happy2:

Good advice IMO, aggressive solvents in tardis I believe James?
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: craigy123 on April 20, 2011, 06:22:07 pm
i have a long ish one to get to the insides thens a small autoglym one for working the corners,

much easier to take the wheel off to clean it!

could do with a wheel sealant though...


Does anyone know of a single website that sells Tardis and Bilberry as i dont want to pay double postage  :ashamed:

Keith from washshop on here mate, and there is a forum discount  :happy2:

had a peek but cant see Tardis on his site though  :sad1: wanting the envy 4/5 pack of brushes, cheapest ive found is

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Envy-Brushes-4-brush-set-(the-original-and-best)-_W0QQitemZ150586945336QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=226138946582&rvr_id=226138946582&cguid=6f49b44612f0a0aa15a10a11fffe8a2a

Give him a PM and see what he can do for you mate, i know he used to sell Tardis in 1l bottle ( if i remember correctly)
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: James B on April 20, 2011, 07:56:48 pm
Personally id rinse and wash the areas down with some shampoo, but there's no hard and fast rule to detailing  :happy2:

Good advice IMO, aggressive solvents in tardis I believe James?

Yes and whilst most of it can easily be removed by just rinsing with water, for what it takes a little go over with shampoo is well worth while IMO, you would be wishing you did do it if you clayed with some still on the paint you would end up with sticky nasty clay.
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: keith on April 21, 2011, 11:02:14 pm
I used to do 500ml bottles of tardis but its frowned upon. TBH autoglym stuff is good as well needs a bit longer dwell time thought to work its wonder.
if you cant get tardis give me a shout and I will get something sorted.
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: gti265 on April 25, 2011, 08:29:30 pm
you can buy 5 litres on ebay for 25 quid including postage

tom
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: parks on April 25, 2011, 08:48:21 pm
I used to do 500ml bottles of tardis but its frowned upon. TBH autoglym stuff is good as well needs a bit longer dwell time thought to work its wonder.
if you cant get tardis give me a shout and I will get something sorted.

I have the autoglym alloy wheel cleaner already, worth just sticking with it then?
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: keith on April 25, 2011, 09:48:54 pm
I still use it, my prev post was reffering to their tar remover. But I use the trade size - acid free wheel cleaner which is AG custom wheels the other one is the stronger wheel cleaner with the orange AG label. If it works for you then :happy2: stay with it, but hey you can never have to many products :laugh:
Title: Re: Tardis or clay
Post by: MattPoss on April 26, 2011, 06:56:48 pm
I just got the Autoglym Intensive Tar Remover yesterday, worked brilliantly.

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_195697_langId_-1_categoryId_165682 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_195697_langId_-1_categoryId_165682)

Got it from Halfords who had a 3 for 2 offer on all car cleaning products including Autoglym :happy2:

Matt