MK5 Golf GTI

General => Random Chat => Topic started by: markymark on April 18, 2011, 01:29:48 pm

Title: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: markymark on April 18, 2011, 01:29:48 pm
What do you make of it? I think it looks great....but then I would, as a fan of the previous Beetles im slightly biased. Its nice to see they have brought it upto date with modern engines and gearboxes!
You make up your mind... http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/article_2913.shtml
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: Strat on April 18, 2011, 01:31:36 pm
Not bad, wouldn't buy one though.

Although i do like the instruments on the dashboard in the center, nice!
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Post by: Hedge on April 18, 2011, 01:33:11 pm
2.0 TSI would be fun especially covered in stick-on flowers.  :wink:
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Post by: MAT ED30 on April 18, 2011, 01:45:44 pm
like it  :ashamed: but i would  :P
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Post by: rich83 on April 18, 2011, 01:46:33 pm
I like!

2.5T lump in that  :signLOL:
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Post by: MAT ED30 on April 18, 2011, 01:47:34 pm
more pics
http://www.vwvortex.com/gallery/gallery2.php?mode=album&album=/Volkswagen/New%20Beetle/2012%202nd%20Generation/Launch%20Press%20Photos#
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 18, 2011, 01:51:30 pm
i like the oldschool style wheel
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fd122%2Fmat138l%2F140.jpg&hash=f04cec7c2f650421c68402587b26be510a227356)
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Post by: CocoPops on April 18, 2011, 01:53:40 pm
Very Scirrcco, which I guess is what it's based on.
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: Richn83 on April 18, 2011, 01:55:27 pm
Back end looks nice inside has rocco about it apart from the extra dash instruments, but I cant help thinking the front looks like a frog thats a sandwich short of a picnic with a vacant smile....
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vwvortex.com%2Fartman%2Fuploads%2Fbeetle1_002.jpg&hash=db81b26efad3294ba4c80d1563818045492fac44)
I also guess thats an American publicity material and the 2.5L isn't anything exciting......
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: NB07 on April 18, 2011, 01:56:25 pm
i like that  :happy2:

Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: Alexander on April 18, 2011, 02:00:02 pm
Beetle R anyone?
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Post by: cmdrfire on April 18, 2011, 02:20:24 pm
That centre dash pod... with Oil Temp, Stopwatch, and Boost... I wonder if it will fit into the air vent location on the Mk5...?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vwvortex.com%2Falbums%2F%2FVolkswagen%2FNew%2520Beetle%2F2012%25202nd%2520Generation%2FLaunch%2520Press%2520Photos%2F2012-volkswagen-beetle-9.jpg&hash=117f799a6aa45e5193611621302927fde680bed5)
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Post by: Gtiain on April 18, 2011, 02:41:34 pm
I think the interior is very nice. The exterior I'm not so sure about however. It may grow on me though.
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Post by: Strat on April 18, 2011, 02:53:22 pm
Those instruments, if they will transfer to my Rocco, will work very nicely indeed!
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: markymark on April 18, 2011, 03:46:31 pm
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: jhtrophy on April 18, 2011, 04:13:16 pm
Shocking, not a fan of new style bugs, but there is a Market so each to their own
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: Britishlion on April 18, 2011, 04:27:31 pm
One of my ex's had a Beetle and honest to god it had the worst driver perception I had ever seen, the wing mirrors were to small and the rear view mirror was positioned wrong ! you were almost blind on what was coming from behind !

Onto this one it looks a bit Chrysler ish! but i like it.

I think  :confused:




Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: simonp on April 18, 2011, 05:51:35 pm
Not as bad as the last one. With that one they reskinned a Golf and made a stoopider looking, less practical car. At least with the new model I can state that they've reskinned a Scirocco to make a car that is merely an equal to its forebear when it comes to a lack of practicality and good looks!
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Post by: no golf clubs at all on April 18, 2011, 07:20:04 pm
Bizarrely I quite like it. Will reserve judgement until I see it in the flesh though.
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Post by: JPC on April 18, 2011, 07:52:54 pm
I really like that! i bet its massively overpriced though! lol
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Post by: theo on April 18, 2011, 08:06:23 pm
Anyone else seeing some Porsche styling in there?
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Post by: andrewparker on April 18, 2011, 08:21:30 pm
Some lovely detailing there, and equally as nice, I think, as it's rivals from Alfa, Mini etc. I've still got feeling that VW are going to have to get their marketing spot on to sell it though.

And yes, I can see it costing an absolute fortune!
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 18, 2011, 08:31:15 pm
Anyone else seeing some Porsche styling in there?

Yeah big time 993 shape
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: theo on April 18, 2011, 10:27:18 pm
Looks like the Panamera managed to sneak a bit of styling in there too i think
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: RedRobin on April 18, 2011, 10:42:15 pm
.
Subject to seeing in the flesh, I've just fallen in love!

5-cyl 2.5 litre turbo engine?  :drool: The same as the RS3 and TTRS?

Soooo much better looking than the Scirocco imo and funkier than the Audi TT. This Beetle would modify beautifully, both in performance and cosmetically.

DSG option?

Hmm, it appears the 2.5 litre option isn't turbo'd  :sad1:
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: cmdrfire on April 18, 2011, 10:45:22 pm
The 2.5L 5cyl is a very old unit which is for the US market only, I suspect because in the US people want displacement over modern, smaller charged-air engines. It's got very little in common with the 5-cylinder units in the TT-RS and the RS3 (which, bizarrely, trace their lineage to Volvo/Ford - think Focus ST - but Volvo/Ford themselves acquired the technology from the original Audi Ur-Quattro 5-cyl) and is a relatively unsophisticated and fuel-hungry engine which is why it's not offered in Europe. It was also offered in the Mk5 Golf.
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: RedRobin on April 18, 2011, 11:14:24 pm

The 2.5L 5cyl is a very old unit which is for the US market only, I suspect because in the US people want displacement over modern, smaller charged-air engines. It's got very little in common with the 5-cylinder units in the TT-RS and the RS3 (which, bizarrely, trace their lineage to Volvo/Ford - think Focus ST - but Volvo/Ford themselves acquired the technology from the original Audi Ur-Quattro 5-cyl) and is a relatively unsophisticated and fuel-hungry engine which is why it's not offered in Europe. It was also offered in the Mk5 Golf.


....Then I've fallen out of love and lust even before our first date.

This Beetle would have really been something with that turbo'd RS3/TTRS engine. But not the sort of car VW ever seem to offer. Okay with our GTI engine though.
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: cmdrfire on April 18, 2011, 11:43:46 pm
....Then I've fallen out of love and lust even before our first date.

This Beetle would have really been something with that turbo'd RS3/TTRS engine. But not the sort of car VW ever seem to offer. Okay with our GTI engine though.

Well I imagine we'll get it with the usual range of EA888 1.4/1.6/2.0TSI engines we've come to love (and I'd guess the 2.0TDI as well). Apparently (according to an Autoblog ticker I just read) a Beetle R is confirmed too, and that's almost certainly going to have the 2.0 TFSI EA113 out of the Scirocco/Golf R I'd guess.
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: RedRobin on April 18, 2011, 11:47:32 pm
^^^^
Although older, isn't the EA113 reputed to be 'stronger' than the EA888?
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: cmdrfire on April 18, 2011, 11:59:36 pm
^^^^
Although older, isn't the EA113 reputed to be 'stronger' than the EA888?

That's why EA113 is in all the R/S four cylinder lineup. I suspect EA888 could be made as strong but would require some development effort (and $$$) and for "halo" models of what are essentially cheap cars* which are increasingly difficult to sell it's probably not worth the expenditure.


*cheap compared to the £80k+ you'd be spending on a Carrera or up.
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: wigit on April 19, 2011, 11:00:19 am
this is growing on me, i reckon slammed and tsi stage 2 that would be fun

rear lights have a hint of bentley continental about them

pitty they didn't do the straight window line on the doors liked the concept which was super aggressive
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: RedRobin on April 20, 2011, 12:01:26 am
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FDanR32%2FPhotoshop%2FNewBeetle.jpg&hash=b7d561f2fa69074087cda01d23cb45cd96740146)

^ Photoshop by Dan @ BIALI  :happy2:
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 21, 2011, 10:33:09 am
just spotted this one
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fd122%2Fmat138l%2F12beetle.jpg&hash=fbc75df600bed929f9f2c65d97bfb10984eb381e)
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: markymark on April 21, 2011, 10:42:36 am
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg57%2Fp3yro%2F2012-volkswagen-beetle-3copy.jpg&hash=511faa3a5741571716af67d330962042d8fc76f5) :drool:
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: markymark on April 21, 2011, 10:43:53 am
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg57%2Fp3yro%2Fvw_black_beetle_profilecopy-1.jpg&hash=ca963c23432770c4d88017bbb033107ac4165724)
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: markymark on April 21, 2011, 11:03:51 am
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg57%2Fp3yro%2FConv.jpg&hash=a38e0a7333eceb96b145cb8600ad5ae7892a7934)
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 21, 2011, 11:06:43 am
i think i really like it  :ashamed:
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: markymark on April 21, 2011, 11:15:11 am
i think i really like it  :ashamed:
:ashamed: :ashamed: Me too!! :laugh:
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 21, 2011, 11:18:12 am
why do i see a hint of this in it
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fd122%2Fmat138l%2Fporsche_993_turbo_at_356_show_3-800-600.jpg&hash=574d63f19b7f9123de33680cdad6a075e1ffc9b0)
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: RedRobin on April 21, 2011, 11:29:02 am
^^^^
Great finds, Mat and Marky  :happy2:

I'm liking it more and more. I guess that the 2.0 turbo'd petrol version could be nice and fast.

EA113 or EA888 I wonder? Probably the newer EA888 nowadays.
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Post by: daboy3000 on April 21, 2011, 11:50:15 am
Looks like they have made the dash smaller, the last one was big enough to get a set of decks on.

When I worked for VW I had a few of these, but only because they were so new, I'll leave it to the girls from now on.  :pomppomp:
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: Gtiain on April 21, 2011, 01:22:44 pm
Looks like they have made the dash smaller, the last one was big enough to get a set of decks on.

When I worked for VW I had a few of these, but only because they were so new, I'll leave it to the girls from now on.  :pomppomp:

 :signLOL:

The NEW Beetles are a girls car, end of. That's the reason I'd never get one. Older ones are a differant story.
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 21, 2011, 03:14:44 pm
yeah and BMW 1 series are ugly but still people buy em  :rolleye:
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: RedRobin on April 21, 2011, 10:33:46 pm

The NEW Beetles are a girls car, end of. That's the reason I'd never get one. Older ones are a differant story.


....That's like saying that only girls drive a car with a reversing camera  :rolleye:

Oh hang on! I see you've got one of those :grin:
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: Gtiain on April 21, 2011, 10:47:26 pm

The NEW Beetles are a girls car, end of. That's the reason I'd never get one. Older ones are a differant story.


....That's like saying that only girls drive a car with a reversing camera  :rolleye:

Oh hang on! I see you've got one of those :grin:

 :signLOL:

That made me laugh! Just my opinion but it's got a flower on the dash! Don't get me wrong I like the old style ones, matted30's looks great.
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: RedRobin on April 21, 2011, 10:59:33 pm

The NEW Beetles are a girls car, end of. That's the reason I'd never get one. Older ones are a differant story.


....That's like saying that only girls drive a car with a reversing camera  :rolleye:

Oh hang on! I see you've got one of those :grin:

 :signLOL:

That made me laugh! Just my opinion but it's got a flower on the dash! Don't get me wrong I like the old style ones, matted30's looks great.


....Oh yes, I forgot about the flower! - Probably why my daughter wanted one when she was younger.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi22.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FIMGP0604.jpg&hash=ed1000185e73ccca128874d5288fd0ac5e910862)

Mat's is probably the very nicest old one I've seen  :notworthy:. But I also like this new one too if tastefully modified and with some performance additions too. Lots of potential.
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: Gtiain on April 21, 2011, 11:01:21 pm
^^^^ agreed. This new one has a much more mean look and stance. Very promising, I'd like to see one in the flesh  :happy2:
Title: Re: New Beetle is launched!
Post by: RedRobin on April 21, 2011, 11:05:18 pm

^^^^ agreed. This new one has a much more mean look and stance. Very promising, I'd like to see one in the flesh  :happy2:


....Yes, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.  :happy2: