MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: berg on April 19, 2011, 03:30:19 pm
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So we know that Vredestein are great for the money and that PS3's seem to be better still and that Toyo R888 are great for the track/hot sunny weather.
The thread about the Stg 2+ ED30's with 360 bhp ish leads me to ask which are the best tyres for traction in your opinion - so cost and overall wear rate should not come into it - only their performance in the dry/wet?
Any opinions?
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Don't bother with PS3's. They're noisy and have a horrible squirrelly feel to them in the bends. Definitely NOT a performance tyre!
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Best tyre for traction is Toyo R1R
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi715.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww160%2Fjakethemoss%2FIMG_0371.jpg&hash=dc45ba2ec56574dcb155fa43a7d15fac28f9bde4)
R888 grip in the dry and excellent in the rain :congrats:
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Best tyre for traction is Toyo R1R
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi715.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww160%2Fjakethemoss%2FIMG_0371.jpg&hash=dc45ba2ec56574dcb155fa43a7d15fac28f9bde4)
R888 grip in the dry and excellent in the rain :congrats:
Really? Very soft compound I take it? Think i used to have some of these Toyo on my old 205 Gti
I was thinking of staying away from Jap tyres on a German car but maybe not....
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they are a pretty new tyre as in only the last year or so.
whats the treadwear rating on the R1Rs
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http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14601.0.html (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14601.0.html)
Treadwear:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14601.0.html (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14601.0.html)
And i must say a superb tyre, as stated earlier the grip of the 888 and with better wet weather grip than your standard road legal tyre, get's my highest recommendation, i can't wait to get some TD 1.2 home to fit them on. I fund them to good for the wife to use in everyday use, so the car now has Michelin Pilot super sports as daily tyres, and the R1R will be my ring and trackday tyres :party:
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http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14601.0.html (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14601.0.html)
Treadwear:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14601.0.html (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14601.0.html)
And i must say a superb tyre, as stated earlier the grip of the 888 and with better wet weather grip than your standard road legal tyre, get's my highest recommendation, i can't wait to get some TD 1.2 home to fit them on. I fund them to good for the wife to use in everyday use, so the car now has Michelin Pilot super sports as daily tyres, and the R1R will be my ring and trackday tyres :party:
So you rate the R1R as better than the pilot super sport? presumably lot cheaper as well!
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yes, the R1R (i've only driven the PSS for about 500km, and not on track yet, treadwear is 300) has way more grip than the PSS, but also fewer miles in it, but thread title stated best tyre for traction, and for that the R1R is in a league of it's own, i know Hurdy agrees with me :drinking:
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I've had R1R's and R888's on my old golf with 360+bhp and 440bhp with nitrous and they were superb. The R888 has ultimately a little more grip in the dry, but the R1R's are better in the wet. (both GG rated)
The R1R's as an everyday tyre worked better for me as a normal road tyre simply spins away it's rubber and ultimately reduces the lifespan. The R1R's gripped better in every condition and so lasted longer than a normal road tyre :smiley:
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I think you thread title is to Vague.
no one on here uses no n road legal tyres, so in effect the answer to the best traction (road legal) tyre is going to be the R888.
Do you mean the best Road tyre as the R888/R1R is more track orientated
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yes, best road tyre for everyday use although for me personally i dont do loads of motorway miles so will be happy to shell out for the R1R's if they are the best even though they may not last too long at stg 2+, which is what i have eventually decided to try out.
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i concur with Hurdy that with spirited driving you get less wheelspin and therefore longer tyrelife in the R1R that most normal roadtyres. They are the tyre of my choice for the Golf with 336BHP and 453NM of torque :driver:
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only £105.00 delivered through camskill too :happy2:
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R1Rs are? they've come down!
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only £105.00 delivered through camskill too :happy2:
That would be a T1R and not R1R.
R1R's are currently around £200 a corner for 18"ers :smiley:
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Ahh.
T1Rs are shockingly crap. Some Toyo stuff is getting hard to locate because of the quake in Japan, scummers here have put their prices up too.
Get searching ebay for track tyres, I've been stocking up on brand new ones in 17s and haven't paid more than £100 a boot yet. DZ03Gs, R888s, A048s...
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will check again but am sure it was for R1R's it said 12% off...
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was the R1R's but only 16's not 18's at that price :sad1:
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Sounds about right.
Have a look at Federal 595 RSR and Hankook RS2s, both excellent track tyres that can be used on the road in most weather, due to their tread patterns. Both about £120 a corner.
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the 18's are £174.00 from camskill and Hankook are £122.56 for the Rs2
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Federals, try MOTmotorsport and Driftworks. Even Tweeks are cheaper than camskill.
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Can add another comment to state that R1R's are fantastic.
Matt
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Can add another comment to state that R1R's are fantastic.
Matt
where have you found cheapest price Matt?
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I haven't had to buy any mate, I got them when I bought the car of Hurdy!!
So far I have had three total sets of wheels and both the other sets (in addiition to Hurdy's) came with there own tyres.
Sorry mate. If I were looking for some today, I would go to www.mytyres.co.uk, camskill or blackcircles and play the price off each other until I had a strong quote.
Matt
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the 18's are £174.00 from camskill and Hankook are £122.56 for the Rs2
I have two hardly used hankook rs2 track day tyres in 18" golf fitment sat in my basement. I took them off before I sold the car, very grippy in the dry but a little fruity in the wet...
if anyone wants them £80 collected in London for the two! :happy2:
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How noisy are the R1R's ? And how many miles is realistic for fast road and motorway ?
I loved Dunlop Formula R's on an E30 M3 in the distant past. Bloody noisy through !
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Like wearing a helmet full of angry bees.
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How noisy are the R1R's ? And how many miles is realistic for fast road and motorway ?
I loved Dunlop Formula R's on an E30 M3 in the distant past. Bloody noisy through !
I must say that the R1R surprised me possitively, they weren't that much noisier than a standard roadtyre, really a great tyre :happy2: :drinking:
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I'd now buy the PSS for every day use and the Direzza 03G for track
or as a compromise the R1-R which seems to cover both demands.
I still run the Conti SC3 on road, which isn't sports oriented and the
Federal 595 RS-R on track which is too noisy for every day and not
good in the wet. Also there are some splicing issues on the tread.
Sadly in my Auto-X class true R-comps aren't allowed. So I cannot
run Direzzas. Next year I'll change class and I see no true alternative
to the 03G to be competitive.
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I'd now buy the PSS for every day use and the Direzza 03G for track
or as a compromise the R1-R which seems to cover both demands.
I still run the Conti SC3 on road, which isn't sports oriented and the
Federal 595 RS-R on track which is too noisy for every day and not
good in the wet. Also there are some splicing issues on the tread.
Sadly in my Auto-X class true R-comps aren't allowed. So I cannot
run Direzzas. Next year I'll change class and I see no true alternative
to the 03G to be competitive.
:drinking:
are you allowed to invite guests to your Auto-X events?? :wink:
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YES. :drinking:
(ask Karsten)
May:
1. : Pinneberg
8. : Bad Segeberg
29.: Norderstedt
June:
18. : Kaltenkirchen
26. : Husum
August:
27./28. Westerrönfeld near Rendsburg
Husum and Westerrönfeld are nearest from Denmark.
Feel free to watch it and if you like make a try of your own.
:driver: