MK5 Golf GTI

General => Random Chat => Topic started by: scooba on April 25, 2011, 03:50:43 pm

Title: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: scooba on April 25, 2011, 03:50:43 pm: Hi I am in two minds to sell my Mercedes C CLASS SPORT ,I was offered £23k today and thought that was ok and think there was more if i wanted to do a deal they were very keen against a new GTI

what should i look at spec wise ? my only concern is spec a GTI R to £35k+ a lot off money for a Golf
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: patrickcullen87 on April 25, 2011, 03:58:41 pm: It is alot of money for a golf yes, but they are pretty rare. I have seen about 3 golf Rs since they have been released and I do alot of driving! You see numerous amounts of S3's driving around these days and have kind of lost their wow factor in my opinion. I am gonna get alot of stick for this but me personally would get a Scirocco R if you are paying that kind of money :drool: but thats just my opinion lol :happy2:
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Saint Steve on April 25, 2011, 04:02:33 pm: If you have the money .......Golf R demostrator if you can find one. 1 year old examples for reasonable money. ( for a golf )
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: TagnuT on April 25, 2011, 04:43:42 pm: When my car was in at the dealers for its service, they had a Scirocco R that was going out that day. Second hand one owner from new (the lady that had bought it new decided that after nearly a year she didn't like it) it came with no RNS but leather £26.5K. Sorry but......... I would have thought that it would have dropped more than that in the first year.

*edit* After having a quick look on the VW car locator that wasn't too bad a price. I love Golfs but looking at the price of Golf Rs on there. :laugh: I don't know what I would buy to be honest after the Edition 30......
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: scooba on April 25, 2011, 04:55:53 pm: I have specd one up £38k R GTI, I have ben told 10% disc and trade my Merc in plus circa £12k.

Still thinking mint ED30 less than 10k miles and garage it and keep the Merc I think i can get a mint one on a 08 for circa £15k ish private.
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: TagnuT on April 25, 2011, 05:07:02 pm: All depends on how much you want to spend and how much you want one... :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: E30Dom on April 25, 2011, 05:49:31 pm: 23k on a low mileage high spec S3 would be my choice...
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: welikeaps on April 25, 2011, 07:23:10 pm: Quote from: patrickcullen87 on April 25, 2011, 03:58:41 pm
It is alot of money for a golf yes, but they are pretty rare. I have seen about 3 golf Rs since they have been released and I do alot of driving! You see numerous amounts of S3's driving around these days and have kind of lost their wow factor in my opinion. I am gonna get alot of stick for this but me personally would get a Scirocco R if you are paying that kind of money :drool: but thats just my opinion lol :happy2:

Agreed! S3s are done and dusted. Simple! The Golf R is veery expensive though but far more rare as I've only seen 3, 2 of which were on VW forecourts.
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Hurdy on April 25, 2011, 07:46:28 pm: The Golf R would be the better choice. As with most things, Audi gets the car first and then VW refines it and makes a better car without the issues. :happy2:

Golf R's are as rare as hen's teeth, good used Golf R's are even rarer. New R's are relatively expensive against an S3 spec for spec.

I was at Elsecar mega-meet today and there were four white S3's there , but not one MKVI Golf, let alone an R. There was a Rising Blue Golf R in the carpark which looked better than any of the S3's though!! :innocent:
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: h4rdy on April 25, 2011, 07:55:16 pm: I would buy a decent spec S3 and mod it to within an inch of its life :signLOL:

You can do it over time then!
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: keith on April 25, 2011, 07:56:29 pm: I would prefer the Golf R
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: neg on April 25, 2011, 09:16:16 pm: The Golf R is only rare due to the cost of it though surely .... like you say a lot of money for a Golf, a nice Golf mind you though.
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: gazbutS3 on April 25, 2011, 10:40:29 pm: Exactly neg, the reason u see so many s3's is they are a bargain in comparison to the R and are the same thing only finished better :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Cooper on April 26, 2011, 08:47:13 am: The golf R is rare because the dealers only get a certain number of them to sell a year, not sure on the numbers for the golf r but my mate who is a salesman at the local dealer said they only allowed to order 4 scirocco r's per year and once they're sold that's it!
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Snoopy on April 26, 2011, 10:02:29 am: S3 for me you get alot more for your money. But if your looking at high equipment specs for a Golf R then it gets near RS3 money so i would then go for that instead.
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Frodo-anni on April 26, 2011, 10:17:12 am: Quote from: scooba on April 25, 2011, 04:55:53 pm

Still thinking mint ED30 less than 10k miles and garage it and keep the Merc I think i can get a mint one on a 08 for circa £15k ish private.

Please point me in that direction, im really struggling to find a good spec in budget, seen two low mile examples at dealers, both with pretty basic spec but at £17k + no thanks
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on April 26, 2011, 10:44:21 am: Lookers Blackpool got a nice candy White golf r sub 30k

http://www.lookers.co.uk/mobile/used-cars/search/16977/volkswagen-golf

Needs an RNS though

Doesn't look expensive at 28k if it came at that, new edition 35 will be more thanthat to the same spec
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: h4rdy on April 26, 2011, 10:49:07 am: Quote from: scooba on April 25, 2011, 04:55:53 pm
I have specd one up £38k R GTI, I have ben told 10% disc and trade my Merc in plus circa £12k.

Still thinking mint ED30 less than 10k miles and garage it and keep the Merc I think i can get a mint one on a 08 for circa £15k ish private.

I don't understand buying a car to garage and hardly use then sell at a loss for somebody else to enjoy the fruits of your labour?

Buy it, use it, enjoy it and either keep it or sell it knowing your hard earned money was used by you and not somebody else.
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Hedge on April 26, 2011, 10:59:15 am: It would be the Golf for me. Sorry Audi lovers I just think it looks better. :ashamed:
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: candy turbo on April 27, 2011, 11:37:58 am: i love a fully loaded s3 but i too would go for the golf R due to its rarity but have a good look around you can get alot of car for golf R money after all the golf R is only an edition 30 with haldex and minor cosmetic mods
get a low milage pirelli and hold on to it , thats what the ed30 was ment to be :drinking:
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Snoopy on April 27, 2011, 12:29:45 pm: I agree the pirelli is the one to go for and i nearly bought one new myself. Just don't mess with it, in otherwords modify it as then its just another modified golf not a limited golf.

Quote from: h4rdy on April 26, 2011, 10:49:07 am
I don't understand buying a car to garage and hardly use then sell at a loss for somebody else to enjoy the fruits of your labour?
Buy it, use it, enjoy it and either keep it or sell it knowing your hard earned money was used by you and not somebody else.
Theres alot of that about sadly.
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Ifti on April 27, 2011, 12:49:46 pm: I like a bit of both TBH!!

I like the front of the Audi S3/RS3, but with the rear of the Golf R !!
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Richn83 on April 27, 2011, 01:51:18 pm: right now I wouldnt be looking at getting an S3, as been said too many around and despite the better finish as far as technology in the car its all getting a little long in the tooth (mainly refering to the RNS-E and compatible bluetooth etc) with the new A3 chassis coming out next year and spedning in the region of £30k i would either want an RS3 which will hold its value well or go for the R which will still be the current model in a years time.

Having said that I really dont like the standard cloth seats in the R the white patches dont do it for me!

I also agree with the other comments if your going to garage a car as a run around thenn a good spec and un-molested Pirelli would be the way to go as its rarer.

just my 2 pence if it were my money....
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Snoopy on April 27, 2011, 02:04:07 pm: I think the mk7 golfs due second half on next year from all the talk on forums so makes no sence going for either of them as new cars unless your a diehard fan due to delivery times now been extremely long.
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Richn83 on April 27, 2011, 02:10:15 pm: Quote from: Snoopy on April 27, 2011, 02:04:07 pm
I think the mk7 golfs due second half on next year from all the talk on forums so makes no sence going for either of them as new cars unless your a diehard fan due to delivery times now been extremely long.

Will be new A3 followed by MK7 in 2012 on the new chassis, but S3's GTI's and R models will follow the main gang a year behind that so your looking at 2 years for hot MK7 and a year and a bit for a hot audi.
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Edition30 on April 27, 2011, 02:27:15 pm: What about the anniversary Golf? That should be out soon.
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Hurdy on April 27, 2011, 09:27:28 pm: Quote from: Edition30 on April 27, 2011, 02:27:15 pm
What about the anniversary Golf? That should be out soon.

Should be announced soon as the VW schedule says 2nd quarter of this year. :happy2:
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Phil_T on April 29, 2011, 12:07:24 am: Quote from: Hurdy on April 25, 2011, 07:46:28 pm
The Golf R would be the better choice. As with most things, Audi gets the car first and then VW refines it and makes a better car without the issues. :happy2:

Golf R's are as rare as hen's teeth, good used Golf R's are even rarer. New R's are relatively expensive against an S3 spec for spec.

I was at Elsecar mega-meet today and there were four white S3's there , but not one MKVI Golf, let alone an R. There was a Rising Blue Golf R in the carpark which looked better than any of the S3's though!! :innocent:

There were four there inc mine two facelift & two pre, prob only reason there was that many is it was a local meet to us all. IMO id have an S3 over and R anyday plus the money they are with the spec is a rip off as you can get an S3 with better spec for cheaper

Quote from: DaveB1970 on April 26, 2011, 10:44:21 am
Lookers Blackpool got a nice candy White golf r sub 30k

http://www.lookers.co.uk/mobile/used-cars/search/16977/volkswagen-golf

Needs an RNS though

Doesn't look expensive at 28k if it came at that, new edition 35 will be more thanthat to the same spec

Just under 30k and has cloth interior lol
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Hurdy on April 29, 2011, 08:57:07 am: I thought I recognised your car Phil from the compomotives. There was also a chap there off VAGOC with the carbon front and rear lower bumper sections, which looked very nice too. :happy2:
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: TurboTrev on April 29, 2011, 10:21:26 am: No contest, R every time for me. I've never liked the shape of the S3 (or A3), the side profile and rear end of the car especially is horrible imho.
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: alexperkins on April 29, 2011, 10:27:30 am: I think it'd be R for me too. S3s are rather common by comparison
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: rich83 on April 29, 2011, 10:33:27 am: I think id take the S3... im still not 100% sold on the MK6.
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Phil_T on April 29, 2011, 10:37:19 am: Quote from: Hurdy on April 29, 2011, 08:57:07 am
I thought I recognised your car Phil from the compomotives. There was also a chap there off VAGOC with the carbon front and rear lower bumper sections, which looked very nice too. :happy2:

Ye Ian was inside with the carbon parts, matt outside with the bentleys & my mate Tony next to me with the rotiform wheels
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: gazbutS3 on April 29, 2011, 10:37:36 am: Quote from: TurboTrev on April 29, 2011, 10:21:26 am
No contest, R every time for me. I've never liked the shape of the S3 (or A3), the side profile and rear end of the car especially is horrible imho.

yes hideous isn't it

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Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Phil_T on April 29, 2011, 10:39:35 am: Quote from: gazbutS3 on April 29, 2011, 10:37:36 am
Quote from: TurboTrev on April 29, 2011, 10:21:26 am
No contest, R every time for me. I've never liked the shape of the S3 (or A3), the side profile and rear end of the car especially is horrible imho.

yes hideous isn't it

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Yes gaz awful & common :grin:

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Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: George on April 29, 2011, 10:39:37 am: I'd go for a facelift S3 over a Golf R
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
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:congrats: this one please!!
matsu
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: TurboTrev on April 29, 2011, 11:19:11 am: Quote from: gazbutS3 on April 29, 2011, 10:37:36 am
Quote from: TurboTrev on April 29, 2011, 10:21:26 am
No contest, R every time for me. I've never liked the shape of the S3 (or A3), the side profile and rear end of the car especially is horrible imho.

yes hideous isn't it

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Can't disagree, everyone to their own.... :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: andrewparker on April 29, 2011, 11:44:19 am: I personally wouldn't choose either. not when you can get a 2010 BMW 335i M Sport Coupe with low miles for similar money.

Something like this - http://bit.ly/lpX6em (http://bit.ly/lpX6em)
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: QD MBE on April 29, 2011, 11:48:01 am: Or a TTRS...................... :evilgrin:

http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/tt/2.5-t-fsi-340-ps-quattro/colchester/601230726-2086736.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_ (http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/tt/2.5-t-fsi-340-ps-quattro/colchester/601230726-2086736.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_)
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: SO8 on April 29, 2011, 12:40:46 pm: Quote from: andrewparker on April 29, 2011, 11:44:19 am
I personally wouldn't choose either. not when you can get a 2010 BMW 335i M Sport Coupe with low miles for similar money.

Something like this - http://bit.ly/lpX6em (http://bit.ly/lpX6em)

The car would look nicer if the dealer had actually cleaned it before the photos were taken ...
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: SO8 on April 29, 2011, 12:42:15 pm: Quote from: QD on April 29, 2011, 11:48:01 am
Or a TTRS...................... :evilgrin:

http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/tt/2.5-t-fsi-340-ps-quattro/colchester/601230726-2086736.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_ (http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/tt/2.5-t-fsi-340-ps-quattro/colchester/601230726-2086736.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_)

I didn't think you could get them for that sort of money ... nice car
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Phil_T on April 29, 2011, 01:10:59 pm: Quote from: QD on April 29, 2011, 11:48:01 am
Or a TTRS...................... :evilgrin:

http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/tt/2.5-t-fsi-340-ps-quattro/colchester/601230726-2086736.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_ (http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/tt/2.5-t-fsi-340-ps-quattro/colchester/601230726-2086736.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_)

Id love one over mine but would have to be suzuka grey or RS blue & would have to be newer than mine so then your looking at over 40k which I dont have
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: QD MBE on April 29, 2011, 01:16:14 pm: I reckon you could bag this for £36k

http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/tt/2.5-t-fsi-340-ps-quattro/tamworth/601308290-20152.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_ (http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/tt/2.5-t-fsi-340-ps-quattro/tamworth/601308290-20152.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_)
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Moschops on April 29, 2011, 09:58:14 pm: Quote from: matsu on April 29, 2011, 10:56:29 am

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:congrats: this one please!!
matsu

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Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Moschops on April 29, 2011, 10:03:42 pm: Quote from: QD on April 29, 2011, 11:48:01 am
Or a TTRS...................... :evilgrin:

http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/tt/2.5-t-fsi-340-ps-quattro/colchester/601230726-2086736.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_ (http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/tt/2.5-t-fsi-340-ps-quattro/colchester/601230726-2086736.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_)

I test drove this one last week.

http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/tt/2.5-t-fsi-340-ps-quattro/crewe/601293206-22273.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_

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Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: wigit on April 30, 2011, 12:44:49 am: i know the guy who works for crew audi who does a lot of the bespoke paint on that :happy2:

i'd be wairy of any O# prefix ones with audi as first owner as mostly press fleet, a guy decided not to buy when he found it was steve sutcliffles ex autocar long termer :)
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Nasir on April 30, 2011, 09:40:17 am: I'm surprised nobody has said this but why not get a mint low mileage R32, if you're not driving it regularly then fuel isn't a concern. We all know the days of naturally aspirated cars are numbered, plus that V6 growl :driver:
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Eddie-NL on April 30, 2011, 10:14:30 am: Quote from: Nasir on April 30, 2011, 09:40:17 am
I'm surprised nobody has said this but why not get a mint low mileage R32, if you're not driving it regularly then fuel isn't a concern. We all know the days of naturally aspirated cars are numbered, plus that V6 growl :driver:

Could be a good investment as cars go. Providing you keep it mint
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
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The above photos taken in Malton by any chance, just around the corner from Specialist Cars of Malton ?
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Moschops on April 30, 2011, 11:53:52 am: Quote from: Nasir on April 30, 2011, 09:40:17 am
I'm surprised nobody has said this but why not get a mint low mileage R32, if you're not driving it regularly then fuel isn't a concern. We all know the days of naturally aspirated cars are numbered, plus that V6 growl :driver:

It's finding one though.... :driver:
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: Moschops on April 30, 2011, 11:54:20 am: Quote from: wigit on April 30, 2011, 12:44:49 am
i know the guy who works for crew audi who does a lot of the bespoke paint on that :happy2:

i'd be wairy of any O# prefix ones with audi as first owner as mostly press fleet, a guy decided not to buy when he found it was steve sutcliffles ex autocar long termer :)

Now you tell me.... :signLOL:
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: rich83 on April 30, 2011, 11:04:44 pm: Quote from: Moschops on April 30, 2011, 11:53:52 am
Quote from: Nasir on April 30, 2011, 09:40:17 am
I'm surprised nobody has said this but why not get a mint low mileage R32, if you're not driving it regularly then fuel isn't a concern. We all know the days of naturally aspirated cars are numbered, plus that V6 growl :driver:

It's finding one though.... :driver:

Your also stuck with 250bhp too... :stupid:
Title: Re: Golf R or Audi S3 ??
Post by: vRStu on April 30, 2011, 11:33:24 pm: You could buy my S3 at trade in money :evilgrin: :signLOL:
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Post by: mortygttdi on May 01, 2011, 01:48:53 pm: Black S3 sportback every day for me...The Golf R is nice but not nearly £40k nice once spec'd up :surprised:

Gaz and Phils S3's look the bollox and in the sazuka grey are really nice.

Its not a big issue with the RNS-E has the mfsw uses the roller keys so its easy to navigate through the menu's, plus the new RNS-E is now HD and alot better quality.

Darren
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Post by: Nasir on May 01, 2011, 02:12:53 pm: Quote from: richwig83 on April 30, 2011, 11:04:44 pm
Quote from: Moschops on April 30, 2011, 11:53:52 am
Quote from: Nasir on April 30, 2011, 09:40:17 am
I'm surprised nobody has said this but why not get a mint low mileage R32, if you're not driving it regularly then fuel isn't a concern. We all know the days of naturally aspirated cars are numbered, plus that V6 growl :driver:

It's finding one though.... :driver:

Your also stuck with 250bhp too... :stupid:

Realistically I think that is enough, 250BHP is still a lot. The best part is, the power is always exploitable throughout the rev range and it just puts it down because it has Haldex.
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Post by: mortygttdi on May 02, 2011, 01:08:25 pm: ^^I think your wrong 250bhp is never enough, I don't know if you've drove one but they are not has fast has you'd think...Yes they are fast but when you think the old e36 M3 with the 3.2 is pushing 321 bhp and the e46 was 341bhp nearly 100bhp up on the R32??

I don't know many people who own an R32 but the ones I do, have them quite highly modified with blower or turbos pushing more than 400+bhp.

The same goes for the RS4, the 2 I have drove have been an absolute joy to drive but if your tootling along in say 4th and then plant your foot they just take an age to pick up...The R32 is not exploitable right through the rev range and is quite sluggish if caught off guard in the wrong gear.

I wait to be blown out of the water from the like of Hedge and Pomme but IMO the R and S3 will be more of a drivers car than the R32 and will also hold there money far better.

And as said the Pirelli is the car of the moment and will hold its value far better than any of the cars suggested so far.

Darren
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Post by: Hedge on May 02, 2011, 01:15:43 pm: Quote from: mortygttdi on May 02, 2011, 01:08:25 pm
I wait to be blown out of the water from the like of Hedge and Pomme but IMO the R and S3 will be more of a drivers car than the R32 and will also hold there money far better.

Not by me. :smiley:

My take on the .:R32 is that it is a fantastic cruiser. No way is it a sprinter. More Daley Thompson than Usain Bolt.

That said mine was always fun to drive and because of the aural pleasures it was enjoyable at slow speeds as well. :wink:
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Post by: Nasir on May 02, 2011, 05:38:40 pm: Quote from: mortygttdi on May 02, 2011, 01:08:25 pm
^^I think your wrong 250bhp is never enough, I don't know if you've drove one but they are not has fast has you'd think...Yes they are fast but when you think the old e36 M3 with the 3.2 is pushing 321 bhp and the e46 was 341bhp nearly 100bhp up on the R32??

I don't know many people who own an R32 but the ones I do, have them quite highly modified with blower or turbos pushing more than 400+bhp.

The same goes for the RS4, the 2 I have drove have been an absolute joy to drive but if your tootling along in say 4th and then plant your foot they just take an age to pick up...The R32 is not exploitable right through the rev range and is quite sluggish if caught off guard in the wrong gear.

I wait to be blown out of the water from the like of Hedge and Pomme but IMO the R and S3 will be more of a drivers car than the R32 and will also hold there money far better.

And as said the Pirelli is the car of the moment and will hold its value far better than any of the cars suggested so far.

Darren

One of my good friends had one, and I knew what people initially thought of R32s (bit sluggish etc). By no means did it make the world move but it was still very quick. It didn't feel sluggish at all but then again it was DSG so it was always shifting itself. Each to their own but I do think the R32 will reach a certain price and stay around that area. My mate has now gone onto a 335d and continues to miss the R32.
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Post by: Saint Steve on May 02, 2011, 07:17:48 pm: I agree, an R is a keeper, but is gonna be dam expensive as a one car user..
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Post by: Poverty on May 02, 2011, 09:32:00 pm: who would pay over 35k for a S3 or Golf R when thats TTRS/RS3 money?
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Post by: Saint Steve on May 02, 2011, 09:38:51 pm: I would for the R, but I would blow 30+k on a car unless I won the lottery .

if I could afford it, then an RS3, but never a TT regardless of it's engine.
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Post by: StuF on May 02, 2011, 10:08:13 pm: I wouldnt go near a RS3 or S3 new for the pure reason its about to be replaced by a brand new platform and residual values will be very poor.
Im more inclined to see what the ED35 has to offer over the R or maybe consider another brand. The Audi 3 Series is getting replaced by a brand new platform 3 series and I wouldnt put my money into an old model.

Just my 2pence worth! :innocent:
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Post by: QD MBE on May 03, 2011, 07:09:13 am: Quote from: Saint Steve on May 02, 2011, 09:38:51 pm
if I could afford it, then an RS3, but never a TT regardless of it's engine.

:smiley:
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Post by: keith on May 03, 2011, 10:51:09 pm: I was up at the retrimmers and they had a brand new R in United Grey or Gunmetal... whatever colour they are calling it this year in for a leather fit and it was lush :drool: really suits the colour.
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Post by: P10YRS on May 04, 2011, 08:42:01 am: Quote from: Poverty on May 02, 2011, 09:32:00 pm
who would pay over 35k for a S3 or Golf R when thats TTRS/RS3 money?

You no that J but I can't insure the above until June! :smiley:
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Post by: Poverty on May 04, 2011, 11:11:20 am: Quote from: P10YRS on May 04, 2011, 08:42:01 am
Quote from: Poverty on May 02, 2011, 09:32:00 pm
who would pay over 35k for a S3 or Golf R when thats TTRS/RS3 money?

You no that J but I can't insure the above until June! :smiley:

Are you saying you are gonna get a rs3/TTRS?

Bit different in your case as back when you got yours TTRS where still 45k!
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Post by: simonp on May 04, 2011, 12:29:20 pm: Quote from: StuF on May 02, 2011, 10:08:13 pm
Im more inclined to see what the ED35 has to offer over the R

Err, it won't have anything to offer over the R, as it will be lower down the range!
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Post by: Bernhard30 on May 04, 2011, 11:32:32 pm: Damn you lot, following all this chat been pondering and doing sums on Golf R's that are about. Though not a huge choice about in the required "lazy left leg and rear doors" spec I really need nowadays.

May have to drive one although not fully convinced it's gonna be a massive leap forward from the Sg1 Ed30.
Accepting that's a modded car versus a standard one.

Over the S3, I personally quite like the look of the R, which is weird as I'm not generally too fussed on Mk6's over the Mk5.
That said it's not what you'd class as Value For Money, when compared to the Audi..Same engine and 4WD etc
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Post by: scooba on May 05, 2011, 06:22:05 am: Thankyou for all the input ,Having read all the above it seams the S3 is being replaced and the R is so much money for a VW Golf albeit a bloody nice one ,

The ED35 members mention is it going to happen, I would love a DSG , 3DR, Grey, Xenons, Nav. perfect spec for me .
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Post by: neg on May 05, 2011, 09:16:46 am: The S3 being replaced - this really an issue, means there are deals to be had - if you want the latest thing then its never going to be cheap. WHen they release a new S3 I expect it to be R money
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Post by: Jules86 on May 05, 2011, 12:23:26 pm: Pick which you like best! Golf R was not an option for me as it was more expensive and had a lesser interior which seemed odd (my opinion, not said to annoy anyone :wink: ). They are rarer but depends if that's your thing?

You cant go wrong with any of them really and on today's roads you will struggle to go faster than a standard mk5 GTI without losing your licence any way!

Test it
Buy it
Enjoy it

:happy2:
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Post by: animal on May 05, 2011, 01:26:29 pm: Quote from: Nasir on May 02, 2011, 05:38:40 pm
Quote from: mortygttdi on May 02, 2011, 01:08:25 pm
^^I think your wrong 250bhp is never enough, I don't know if you've drove one but they are not has fast has you'd think...Yes they are fast but when you think the old e36 M3 with the 3.2 is pushing 321 bhp and the e46 was 341bhp nearly 100bhp up on the R32??

I don't know many people who own an R32 but the ones I do, have them quite highly modified with blower or turbos pushing more than 400+bhp.

The same goes for the RS4, the 2 I have drove have been an absolute joy to drive but if your tootling along in say 4th and then plant your foot they just take an age to pick up...The R32 is not exploitable right through the rev range and is quite sluggish if caught off guard in the wrong gear.

I wait to be blown out of the water from the like of Hedge and Pomme but IMO the R and S3 will be more of a drivers car than the R32 and will also hold there money far better.

And as said the Pirelli is the car of the moment and will hold its value far better than any of the cars suggested so far.

Darren

One of my good friends had one, and I knew what people initially thought of R32s (bit sluggish etc). By no means did it make the world move but it was still very quick. It didn't feel sluggish at all but then again it was DSG so it was always shifting itself. Each to their own but I do think the R32 will reach a certain price and stay around that area. My mate has now gone onto a 335d and continues to miss the R32.

VW will never make a car like the R32 again. This is why I bought one, before they got too old.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who is happy to with 'just' 250bhp. R32 is plenty quick enough for me and IMHO has far more sense of occasion that the S3 which is why I went for one over the Audi. I found the S3 dull in comparison.

I have absolutely no idea what I will replace it with. I enjoy the sure-footed-ness of the the Haldex and I love the 2.5 TFSI but I won't buy a TT and I loathe the Sportback A/S3...

For the sake of this discussion, I'd get an R in a heart-beat, but only if comparing it to a current S3. I eagerly await hot MKVIIs and MKIII S3s, but I think I might be disappointed.
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Post by: simonp on May 05, 2011, 01:45:25 pm: Agree with all the above. The R32 does have a sense of occasion missing from all the other 4 pot cars. I know someone who has even had a 3.2 A3 and an R32 and he reckons the Golf is a much better car. I think the sportier Audis have too hard a ride and that the designers confuse stiffness with sportiness, much like they do at Seat .

The R32 is a big old bus that I don't think was designed to compete with the 4 cylinder models, but to be an alternative that appeals to a different type of buyer. That's the reason why these S3 vs GTI vs R32 debates will always exist! I can see the possibility of the 4 pot R being my next car, but it'll be a very sorry occasion.