MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Top Cat on March 09, 2009, 09:59:53 pm
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There are lots of people on here putting out big numbers in the engine department, way above VW had planned for us. :party:
Therefore it makes sense to upgrade the brakes to reign in the ponies.
When you add a map to the car it is quite clear what gains have been made, via rolling roads and the seat of your pants,but there are so many brake options available and the only real guide we get are testimony from purchaser's of said kits.
A popular upgrade at the minute is the R32 brakes, obviously an improvement over standard, but by how much is my question. And the same then applies to the rear R32 conversion as well.
Even though the Disc size is bigger on the R32 they are still only one pots so it interests me what extra yardage they save you and also how much longer they last under heavy use before getting cooked. :smiley:
i would also be interested in finding the same info about all the brake conversions that our current trail blazers use IE RedRobins kit, Hurdy's ten pots and Tony Danza's new set up.
So we are trying to set up a brake test and would like volunteer's to take part. This will not be scientific, but we may have a magazine interested to help us log the result's and should at least give us a real world idea on the different stopping distance's achieved by the various kits.
OK we need volunteer's to take a day out of there lives to help us do this, i have no dates set indeed this just a feeler at the moment so please put your name on the list if you are willing to take part in this experiment.
WE need :
1. standard car.
1. front R32 disc and caliper conversion.
1. Full R32 front and back conversion.
After these the spec will vary quite a bit, so anyone with after market upgrades is very welcome and appreciated if you could help the test out, and you never no your car may get featured in a magazine. :drinking:
If you are intersted, please put your name and set up on the list.
EG 1. Topcat = standard set up.
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got some AP Racing 330mm 6 pots here. The MkV GTI kit.
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343mm 4-pot Alcons and standard rears - braided hoses and track pads all round, Motul RBF600.
We're never going to be scientific with this, due to weight differences/tyres/blah, but it'll give a very good idea what you're getting for your money to ensure people make the best choice for their car, rather than just buying something pretty!
Great idea.
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got some AP Racing 330mm 6 pots here. The MkV GTI kit.
Please excuse me if i am wrong, dont you have a cupra Dan. If so i dont think the weight differences will help us. but if you want to fit to mine then lets talk. :laugh:
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Yup, I'm up for this as well.
10 pot TAROX GT34 set up, braided hoses and TAROX pads at the front with stock rears. :smiley:
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got some AP Racing 330mm 6 pots here. The MkV GTI kit.
Please excuse me if i am wrong, dont you have a cupra Dan. If so i dont think the weight differences will help us. but if you want to fit to mine then lets talk. :laugh:
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I have a leon yes, Thought they were pretty identical weight wise though..
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JPC - R32 brakes, front (and back soon)
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got some AP Racing 330mm 6 pots here. The MkV GTI kit.
Please excuse me if i am wrong, dont you have a cupra Dan. If so i dont think the weight differences will help us. but if you want to fit to mine then lets talk. :laugh:
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I have a leon yes, Thought they were pretty identical weight wise though..
Ok bud i am coming from the view of not knowing much about your car so :ashamed: , count yourself in for now dude, even if its turns not exactly relevant to our test, it will still be good to see how they perform. :drinking:
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Interesting to see how they compare with the RR's 4 pots :)
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Gadget = R32 Front & Rear
PS Shouldn't the list read option 1, 2 & 3 :signLOL:
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just forgot, my cars not a gti haha!
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Any body willing to take part just put your name down :smiley:, hopefully i can hand this hot potato to someone with a technical brain as soon as possible. :laugh:
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312mm 6 pot Tarox kit in fronts and standards in rear. I'm a sweaty though and depending on where and when test is may not be able to make it down
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Interesting to see how they compare with the RR's 4 pots :)
....Yep, I've got AP Racing's 4-pots on front and will be changing both discs and pads in the not too distant future due to wear. Done about 45,000 miles on them so far.
So, when and where is this test likely to be?
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I havn't got a clue yet its just a pipe dream at the moment, I know its depending on date and time but just register your interest and help, and we can go from there. :innocent: :smiley:
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r32 fronts here, might stick some ds2500 pads on front and rear but wil leave stock pads in for the test.
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I am more than happy to put my name to this, however i only have a standard ED30 so not sure how much help i can be?
Cheers,
:smiley:
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I have a R32 front and rear setup - on the spare bedroom floor :ashamed:
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And if I can try and get my brakes sorted out it will be either tarox discs and pads or aset or rs4 8pot setup :evilgrin:
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I have a R32 front and rear setup - on the spare bedroom floor :ashamed:
:signLOL: :signLOL:
Whats the stopping distance like on the carpet Neg :grin:
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This is a great idea! Are we gonna make this a meet sorta thing or will you be in a secret location with white coats and clipboards?? :grin: I would be interested in just coming down to spectate :happy2:
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I'll be up for this, test out my new brakes with the competition :party:
Front - Stoptech 4pots, 328x28 zinc discs, steel braided hoses.
Rears - standard
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fu347%2Fjnewby99%2Fnewbrake1.jpg&hash=2e7847b5f4a41e19614ac3851afa1283abbe624d)
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Nice one James. :happy2:
Is there anyone out left out there with a uprated kit. :smiley:
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I think you should approach one of the mags and get them to send an appropriate driver to test each of our brake kits for consistent comparison and they can write a short feature.
Different forum members are likely to have differing braking skills and therefore discolour the results.
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Maybe contact the boys at Topgear and see if Stig is available ? :grin:
Toast
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Stig or any tester wont be going anywhere near my car thanks, im sure i can manage to stop in a straight line :happy2:
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Stig or any tester wont be going anywhere near my car thanks, im sure i can manage to stop in a straight line :happy2:
....The car owner can be passenger. In the interests of a consistent and therefore meaningful brake test I think that one person should drive each car and that driver should be an objective and experienced tester. Otherwise if the whole thing is just going to be a meet with a few cones it's meaningless as an objective test worthy of magazine coverage.
What harm do you think is going to come to your car, luca?
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i thought you meant a magazine guy thrashing each car round a track. if im present then i dnt mind somebody else testing my car. its like you not wanting to run at pod, track wil do mord damage than pod, unless you launch at 7k lol
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Ah, sorry. I assumed a brake test would be straight line from a strict set speed at a marker and distance to standstill measured or marked.
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I think you can probably work it out better with a GPS logger, that way anyone can do it - indicated 100mph and stand on the brakes until it has stopped... not much room for differences there!
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Just bumping this back up, could do with a few more names yet as depending upon where we have the test a few members will probably not be able to attend. so get your name down please if you have uprated brakes. :drinking:
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If you don't have a "normal" mk5 GTI I can volunteer, depending on dates. Been awhile since I've done something interesting car-related.
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If you don't have a "normal" mk5 GTI I can volunteer, depending on dates. Been awhile since I've done something interesting car-related.
good stuff i will populate a list tomorrow sometime and throw your name on their. :happy2: