MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Cosmetic/Interior Modifications => Topic started by: martinbickley on May 06, 2011, 09:32:22 am

Title: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: martinbickley on May 06, 2011, 09:32:22 am
So i've just bought my first Golf.

Its a 2004 GT TDi so doesn't have the fancy exhaust the newer ones have.

The rear valance is currently sprayed 'Tornado Red' which I don't really like.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg96.imageshack.us%2Fimg96%2F5272%2Fyx04rjv1back.jpg&hash=34ada6da60c2bfcb9cad0960b61ea9b384116d08)

I'm wondering how stupid it would look to swap it for a GTi valance and then upgrade the exhaust in a few months time when I can afford to do it properly.

I know the existing exhaust would not stick out at all but will it line up with the cut out?

Thanks in advance.


Martin
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: sf1506 on May 07, 2011, 12:13:41 pm
Hi Martin
I'm in the process of changing mine I've got a 170gt, I'm putting on a gti colour coded lower part.
If your interested I'll have a spare lower part that will be coming off it has the cut outs as well, I will also have mud flaps to go with it too!
Let me know :wink:
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: MattPoss on May 07, 2011, 01:14:03 pm
Why not get the valance (about £45 from the dealers) then save up enough money to do the lot at the same time?! When you have the exhaust, fit the valance and exhaust the same day?!

Saves you running round with a cut out for an exhaust but no exhaust for a couple of months

Matt
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: martinbickley on May 07, 2011, 01:19:00 pm
I know waiting is the sensible thing to do, and I may well do that.  I just really don't like the painted valance I currently have.


sf1506 - Whereabouts are you?  Is the 170 valance the textured like the GTi?

Thanks


Martin
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: big al on May 07, 2011, 02:32:52 pm
you can buy a backbox off ebay for about £50, then the GTI valance for £45. very cheap mod really.
Then upgrade to a Milltek at a later date if you wanted.
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: Andy on May 07, 2011, 02:35:20 pm
^^ as Al mentions will be the best idea for now
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: martinbickley on May 07, 2011, 03:30:37 pm
I'm a bit reluctant to spend £400 on a Milltek system as i've just swapped my Impreza WRX to get the Golf to save money.

I'm thinking rather than a second hand exhaust trying something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-MK5-Stainless-Steel-Twin-Exhaust-Back-Box-/170523441342?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27b3fd38be (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-MK5-Stainless-Steel-Twin-Exhaust-Back-Box-/170523441342?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27b3fd38be)

Gives me a good look and hopefully won't break the bank.


Martin
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: sf1506 on May 08, 2011, 07:06:39 pm
Hi Martin
I'm in the midlands and its textured, I've changed them over today.
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: martinbickley on May 09, 2011, 01:46:50 pm
Am I correct in thinking that the 170 valance is not the same as the GTi one?

Thanks


Martin
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: sf1506 on May 09, 2011, 05:38:57 pm
Yes it's the same as the red one you have but it's got the cut outs.
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: big al on May 09, 2011, 06:53:54 pm
Save your money and buy an old one, bit of autosol,wire wool and elbow grease will get a decent one looking as good as the one you posted for only about £30. Or if you bought the tips off eBay they are only about £50, so an all around saving. The one you posted will not give any power/or sound gains over what you have now.
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: martinbickley on May 09, 2011, 09:13:30 pm
Big Al,

Thanks for the advice.  I'm not really after any power gains and not sure what sounds gains are available for a diesel.

Think I will keep my eye on eBay for a cheapo exhaust.



Martin
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: martinbickley on June 24, 2011, 12:15:17 am
Looking for a GTi or GT TDi 170 Backbox Exhaust if anyone has one for sale.

I'm in the Manchester area and would prefer to collect for cash.

Also in Wrexham/Chester on weekends.

Thanks


Martin
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: daboy3000 on July 08, 2011, 09:22:30 am
The GTi backbox is not a direct fit on a 140, its needs a little playing around with to get it on, also I believe that not all 170 tips are chrome.

Here's my 140 with a GTi box

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5213%2F5397818315_2a229a1f3a_z.jpg&hash=dfe9448651106d0d6b7a0ea75f5fa1818fe63b23)
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: martinbickley on July 14, 2011, 08:44:51 pm
Still trying to source a backbox.

Here's mine so far without one.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg12.imageshack.us%2Fimg12%2F3710%2Fdsc06156c.jpg&hash=59efddc7961217d0592a81a7d6bce50c64aa8259)


Martin
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: vRS_Pagey on July 14, 2011, 08:59:06 pm
you can buy a backbox off ebay for about £50, then the GTI valance for £45. very cheap mod really.
Then upgrade to a Milltek at a later date if you wanted.
I'm looking to do this but I can't find a GTi back box for anything close to £50, and don't suppose you know the part number for the valance?
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: DamoP on July 14, 2011, 09:03:39 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Faf48%2Fdemon666uk%2F018-1-1.jpg&hash=3f018e0e0182ea6bdf80c7bd6195b1dc37ae6ba1)

here is mine , got my gti back box for £75 delivered off ebay. they only seem to come up every now and again. i would say this is the best place to keep an eye out as my gti owners would get a stainless one
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: vRS_Pagey on July 15, 2011, 06:07:58 am
I have got to do this, no if, no buts! It looks soooo much better than the nasty great lump of black plastic.........seems like I will be scanning the bay on a daily basis now.  :wink:

This may sound like a stupid question, but what would you recommend to type in the search box?  I tried Golf GTi silencer, exhaust, back box with no luck.
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: DamoP on July 15, 2011, 10:00:15 am
I have got to do this, no if, no buts! It looks soooo much better than the nasty great lump of black plastic.........seems like I will be scanning the bay on a daily basis now.  :wink:

This may sound like a stupid question, but what would you recommend to type in the search box?  I tried Golf GTi silencer, exhaust, back box with no luck.

yep , ill keep an eye out for you as well.

i would search on anything and everything , back box exhaust , silencer , gti gt gt tdi. a lot of stuff on ebay is not listed correctly.
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: vRS_Pagey on July 15, 2011, 07:58:17 pm
I appreciate that. 
Big Al mentions you could get the lower valance from the stealers for around 45 quid, is this right and any idea of the part number?

vRS Carl had a look earlier on EKTA but the only rear valance he could find was the one with the removable plate for tow bar installation, the part number for that was around £65 inc VAT, then the plate was a further £11!
Finally, is the finish slightly textured? 
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: DamoP on July 16, 2011, 06:50:59 pm
this any good

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-MK6-Exhaust-2-0-TDI-/130547888055?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e6542afb7
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: JoeDarKa on July 16, 2011, 08:35:33 pm
You just missed a used GTI rear valance for £45 on ebay! Hows this one?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350465980449&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: vRS_Pagey on July 17, 2011, 06:24:13 pm
I had this in my watch list but I think it's cheaper from the stealers, going to give my local TPS a ring tomorrow.  :wink:
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: S4LKK on July 27, 2011, 09:35:45 am
I have a mk5 gti exhaust that is currently on ebay if its any good to you, located in blackburn lancashire, it is also advertised on ed38, thanks adam, 07818814258

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250861893704&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_949
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: JoeDarKa on July 27, 2011, 07:55:34 pm
I have a mk5 gti exhaust that is currently on ebay if its any good to you, located in blackburn lancashire, it is also advertised on ed38, thanks adam, 07818814258

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250861893704&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_949

Im currently watching this exhaust! Hands off everyone!!  :grin:
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: martinbickley on July 30, 2011, 12:40:02 am
Had my exhaust fitted today and am very happy with it.  Will put picture on tomorrow.


Martin
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: RSam84 on July 30, 2011, 11:22:32 am
weve got exhaust now as well so just need to get it fitted!
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: vRS_Pagey on July 30, 2011, 11:33:49 am
I have a mk5 gti exhaust that is currently on ebay if its any good to you, located in blackburn lancashire, it is also advertised on ed38, thanks adam, 07818814258

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250861893704&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_949

Im currently watching this exhaust! Hands off everyone!!  :grin:
I've got a feeling I was watching it first.... :P  And I had texted Adam regarding posting and the possiblity of cutting it in to two pieces!

I know who got in there now. :sad:

Just another question:  Would a mkIV exhaust fit a mkV?  I have found one going cheap and from the picture it looks the same.....!
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: JoeDarKa on July 31, 2011, 09:02:27 pm
I have a mk5 gti exhaust that is currently on ebay if its any good to you, located in blackburn lancashire, it is also advertised on ed38, thanks adam, 07818814258

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250861893704&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_949

Im currently watching this exhaust! Hands off everyone!!  :grin:
I've got a feeling I was watching it first.... :P  And I had texted Adam regarding posting and the possiblity of cutting it in to two pieces!

I know who got in there now. :sad:

Just another question:  Would a mkIV exhaust fit a mkV?  I have found one going cheap and from the picture it looks the same.....!


It was me!  :P I picked it up on Thursday i think. Im not sure about a Mk 4 one fitting
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: martinbickley on July 31, 2011, 09:35:01 pm
Picture of mine fitted.

Got a brand new backbox for £60 off eBay. Bargain!

Cost me £50 to fit it, which included welding a smaller pipe to the back box so it could clamp to the existing system.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg841.imageshack.us%2Fimg841%2F456%2Fimg0862u.jpg&hash=255b973ac97c2eb75252bb0894b05feb61477555)


Martin
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: vRS_Pagey on July 31, 2011, 10:50:10 pm
Picture of mine fitted.

Got a brand new backbox for £60 off eBay. Bargain!

Cost me £50 to fit it, which included welding a smaller pipe to the back box so it could clamp to the existing system.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg841.imageshack.us%2Fimg841%2F456%2Fimg0862u.jpg&hash=255b973ac97c2eb75252bb0894b05feb61477555)


Martin
Blimey, how did you manage that, new from the stealers they are £250+........
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: martinbickley on July 31, 2011, 11:09:04 pm
Blimey, how did you manage that, new from the stealers they are £250+........

Just got really lucky, saw it on eBay made an offer and luckly they accepted.

Bargain!


Martin
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: RSam84 on August 01, 2011, 02:34:53 pm
proper bargin that!!
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: daboy3000 on August 04, 2011, 05:53:12 pm
BARGAIN!!!!   I paid £100 for a secondhand one  :happy2:
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: JoeDarKa on August 04, 2011, 10:38:42 pm
Good deal! Mine was £50 second hand!
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: ukshaun on August 26, 2011, 12:49:47 pm
daboy wats the gti exhaust sound like on a gt tdi ? need one for mine
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: daboy3000 on August 30, 2011, 02:44:20 pm
Sorry for late reply, been away.

Its sounds a little deeper and a tiny bit louder but only a touch, not a mod for improving the sound but does look a ton better.
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: vRS_Pagey on August 30, 2011, 03:44:49 pm
Sorry for late reply, been away.

Its sounds a little deeper and a tiny bit louder but only a touch, not a mod for improving the sound but does look a ton better.

Do you have the complete GTi system, or just the back box?
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: daboy3000 on August 30, 2011, 04:18:52 pm
Just the back box, I don't know if a complete GTI system would fit.
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: vRS_Pagey on August 30, 2011, 06:03:00 pm
Just the back box, I don't know if a complete GTI system would fit.

Interesting that just the back box has change the exhaust note.  :wink:

The cat back would definitely fit, it may just need a reducer to match up to the OE pipe.
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: daboy3000 on August 31, 2011, 12:10:00 pm
Only a tiny bit, I can only tell because I changed it but I doubt the average Joe would notice.
Title: Re: Fitting MK5 GTi Valance with standard GT TDi Exhaust
Post by: DamoP on September 01, 2011, 06:04:26 pm
daboy wats the gti exhaust sound like on a gt tdi ? need one for mine

ive found another one and listed it in the other for sale links if you need one