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Title: help car in limp mode
Post by: matsu on May 08, 2011, 12:50:07 pm
got her home finally- car been ok but exhaust light been on since storm fitted my 3"DP
but today car dropped into limp mode and i drapped myself home at 3mph,much to ammusement of my mate.

the exhaust light is stil on
the epc light is now on
the esp light is now on..... and i,m useless with engines!
there is liitle fel in her but i can smell petrol/fumes
help!!

 :stupid: :sad1: :sad1:
matsu
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: tony_danza on May 08, 2011, 12:52:47 pm
Have you had the car mapped to suit the DP? If not, then it'll keep doing it.

Pull the battery for 15 mins, should reset everything and you'll just have to creep around until you've got it sorted.
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: matsu on May 08, 2011, 01:06:02 pm
no mate
the map was already on there!
so if i disconnect battery then it wil reset and i can use "gently" untill i get it remapped again?
is that me reading the solution corrrctly,i,m a div with cars honestly!!
thank you for a quick response!
matsu
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: vRStu on May 08, 2011, 01:17:04 pm
I think you'd be better to try for a VCDS scan.
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: matsu on May 08, 2011, 02:58:22 pm
If I disconnect battery do I lose any systems or audio etc
Not sure if I gave code  :sad1:
Got number of car spark. will call him tomo
Matsu
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: vRStu on May 08, 2011, 03:00:15 pm
Disconnecting the battery may well cause other issues.

If the remap is Revo then you may end up on low settings.

You may also end up needing to do Steering Angle Sensor and ABS Basic Settings.
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: Andy on May 08, 2011, 03:05:34 pm
if i am reading this right --the d/p was put on and the engine check light came straight on,The car will go into limp mode if the light stays on and is not either mapped out thought the garage might of advised you on this or have i got it wrong :smiley:
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: matsu on May 08, 2011, 06:14:40 pm
well sorta.....they told me the dp woud throw the sensor but i could have it vag com;d!!

it didnt come on for about 2 days, and its been on since- about six weeks!
the map is from angel tuning and ive been happy with it uptill now!
so i was thinking calling rtech and getting them to take me to stage 2-would thatsolve the prob...like mr danza said?

thanks guys.. am sooooo pi##ed off
matsu
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: martziniuk on May 08, 2011, 06:41:49 pm
Shouldn't be a downpipe issue, it should run fine with it on even if the O2 snsor detects a fault and throws a code.
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: PDT on May 08, 2011, 07:14:49 pm
Downpipe (cat efficiency code) wont cause limp mode.
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: heavyd on May 08, 2011, 07:38:43 pm
I ran the milltek downpipe with sports cat on a standard map and didnt get an error code :stupid:
good luck with getting it sorted :happy2:
My CEL now comes on nearly on a weekly basis with my stage 3 map! :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: martziniuk on May 08, 2011, 08:06:01 pm
My CEL now comes on nearly on a weekly basis with my stage 3 map! :popcornsoda:
You need to get in touch with your tuner.
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: Saint Steve on May 08, 2011, 08:31:37 pm
My CEL now comes on nearly on a weekly basis with my stage 3 map! :popcornsoda:
You need to get in touch with your tuner.

Thats PDT :signLOL:
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: heavyd on May 08, 2011, 08:57:22 pm
My CEL now comes on nearly on a weekly basis with my stage 3 map! :popcornsoda:
You need to get in touch with your tuner.

Thats PDT :signLOL:
It isnt mate, I'm onto my fourth tuner now :signLOL: I'm supposed to be getting a new map emailed out soon. 
This thread is about helping Matsu anyway.......
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: PDT on May 09, 2011, 12:00:04 am
My CEL now comes on nearly on a weekly basis with my stage 3 map! :popcornsoda:
You need to get in touch with your tuner.

Thats PDT

Dom switched to Shark Performance as we don't offer a stg2+ on our own software, only REVO (which incidentally also threw EM faults on Doms car)

EM lights after tuning are common and are usually a sign of an underlying problem with the car rather than a fault caused by the software or a new part being fitted. A scan with VCDS should point out the fault that is causing the OP's problems.
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: matsu on May 09, 2011, 07:28:30 am
thanks guys
ill be looking for decent mobile auto elleci today and get him on the case, but looks like stage 2 it is after lol!
matsu
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: heavyd on May 09, 2011, 03:59:27 pm
Did you have any luck then? I doubt the DP would have caused limp mode though surely?


Dom switched to Shark Performance as we don't offer a stg2+ on our own software, only REVO (which incidentally also threw EM faults on Doms car)

EM lights after tuning are common and are usually a sign of an underlying problem with the car rather than a fault caused by the software or a new part being fitted. A scan with VCDS should point out the fault that is causing the OP's problems.
I would have agreed with you, but Revo fault codes were engine running lean, caused by the first lambda sensor, new codes are the second lambda sensor with shark performance. I should have went back to superchips :signLOL:

000313 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2: Response too Slow
               P0139 - 004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
004372 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B1 S2: Internal Resistance too High
               P1114 - 008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: matsu on May 09, 2011, 04:02:51 pm
my garage-independent is going to have a look at the car tyomo- they reckon lol something has fallen off lol.
def an underlying issue rather than the DP as pdty has alreadsy said.

iull keep you posted and try to get copies of the logs/fault codes etc so this thread might help someone else
matsu
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: PDT on May 09, 2011, 05:50:18 pm
Did you have any luck then? I doubt the DP would have caused limp mode though surely?


Dom switched to Shark Performance as we don't offer a stg2+ on our own software, only REVO (which incidentally also threw EM faults on Doms car)

EM lights after tuning are common and are usually a sign of an underlying problem with the car rather than a fault caused by the software or a new part being fitted. A scan with VCDS should point out the fault that is causing the OP's problems.


I would have agreed with you, but Revo fault codes were engine running lean, caused by the first lambda sensor, new codes are the second lambda sensor with shark performance. I should have went back to superchips :signLOL:

000313 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2: Response too Slow
               P0139 - 004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
004372 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B1 S2: Internal Resistance too High
               P1114 - 008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON


Just ask ben to remove the 2nd lambda from the map, have seen these before and was a faulty sensor rather than software issue so just deleted/adjusted the relevant maps manually and problem solved.
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: matsu on May 10, 2011, 02:51:12 pm
well thats me fcuked for the next few weeks!!
 throttle position sensor and accelorator psition sensor both needed and the download..... not tyAT I HAVE A BLOODY CLUE WHAT I,M TALKING ABOUT  and  600 notes later...i,m eating baked beans for the rest of the month and beyond!!
forget my modding for yet again a mon th or so at least!!
 :fighting: :sad1:
matsu
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: Andy on May 10, 2011, 08:23:51 pm
know how you feel mate as the turbo has gone on mine :sad1:
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: vRStu on May 10, 2011, 09:10:57 pm
£600 - I would ask a bit more detail about what is required and what is being done.
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: matsu on May 11, 2011, 02:43:14 pm
these are thecodes it threw
p0420- cat effeciency below threshold- i take that as the 3" DP

p0121
p0221
p1545

when they download and re set it all...will i lose my map?
i,m going stage2 anyways -i just wondered.
ive known the owner of the garage a long time and altho he isnt a vag specialist-he is very thorough,if this isnt the problem- i wont get chaged for wrongly ordered parts!
and the labour is only 98 notes on this job!!

matsu
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: PDT on May 11, 2011, 04:23:24 pm
Common codes on the TFSi, see the notes below:

16605/P0221/000545 - Angle Sensor for Throttle (G188): Implausible Signal
Possible Symptoms
Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) active
Possible Causes
Wiring/Connector(s) from/to Throttle Body Control (J338) faulty
Possible Solutions
Check Throttle Body Control (J338)
See Measuring Value Blocks (MVB) 060+
Check Wiring/Connector(s) from/to Throttle Body Control (J338)
Special Notes
When found in the NAR 2.0l TFSI: (BPY, CCTA and CBFA) check TSB 01-09-04 or 2018652 for a wiring repair at the Throttle Body.



17953/P1545/005445 - Throttle Valve Controller: Malfunction
Possible Symptoms
Increased Idle Speed
Bucking at Load Change
Possible Causes
Throttle Body dirty
Throttle Body Wiring faulty
Throttle Body faulty
Possible Solutions
Clean Throttle Body
Check Throttle Body Wiring
Check Throttle Body
Special Notes
Use Meas. Blocks & Basic Setting for testing




When found in the NAR 2.0l TFSI: (BPY, CCTA and CBFA) check TSB 01-09-04 or 2018652 for a wiring repair at the Throttle Body.
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: vRStu on May 11, 2011, 05:07:32 pm
I think you'd be as well to go to a VAG specialist for this repair.  I don't think the sum you've mentioned is correct.
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: matsu on May 11, 2011, 05:50:51 pm
thanks guys
 i have sent him the info from pdt :notworthy:
and he will check to see if it indeed does need new sensors.

and thats why i blooody luv this forum!!!
matsu
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: bacillus on May 11, 2011, 06:00:29 pm
and thats why i blooody luv this forum!!!
matsu

Isn't it this forum that has you now pleading poverty??   :laugh:
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: PDT on May 11, 2011, 06:29:12 pm
Speak to your main dealer about "tsb 2018652/2" and you may even get a free repair :wink:
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: vRStu on May 11, 2011, 06:39:12 pm
^^^

Especially if you have a FVWSH  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: matsu on May 11, 2011, 06:44:43 pm
i dont!!.........have just spoken to him, all wiring etc checked-his auto eclecci is in tomo and they will check before any new parts put in!


and yep this forum keeps me skint,but lots of great very helpful people who try to save us numpty;s money!!
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: vRStu on May 11, 2011, 06:46:39 pm
That number may refer to the VWOA TSB, in the UK it may be different.

Here is the VWOA TSB - http://www.golfmk5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72495&d=1299171293

If nothing else it has the part numbers of the wires etc you need.
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: matsu on May 13, 2011, 01:01:48 pm
thanks buddy
the car auto elc checked everything and the car was a day late back due to his time after i insisted it all be checked before the new sensors fitted!
ill post the part numbers they fitted and i have a whole replaced pedal and summink else in boot of my car now!!
as always big fanx to you all, who helped!
matsu
Title: Re: help car in limp mode
Post by: matsu on May 16, 2011, 08:18:56 pm
here are the pt numbers that were replaced
06F133062 E/A2G53044094 VDO
1K2723503L

CAR DEF SEEMS TO PICK UP QUICKER.
oops caps lock .....exhaust management light now back on so off to vagcom weds to erase fault code and health check.
and a looka the cam tensioner etc as sounding deisel ish still!!

matsu