MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: gulfstream11 on May 14, 2011, 11:17:48 am
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Ok.Time is moving on,rozzers say the chance of finding the GTI is diminishing fast so thoughts are now turning to a new car.
I,m looking at ED30's and R32's..The new S3 is not an option now,(wife glared at me).
I've noticed this car on R32OC.
http://www.r32oc.com/vehicles/32656-2007-steel-grey-r32-3dr-manual.html
I recognise the name for some reason,Wellsy,and wondered if anybody on here knows the car.If the members of that forum are as dedicated to the cars as you guys are here then I'm a happy camper.
Insurance say its a 7-10 day wait for the claim process to begin so I dont want to waste the guys time by joining the forum and posting my interest I just wondered if any of mk5golfgti know the car.
Cheers in advance
Gulf
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Gutted to hear bout your car...The R32 in the link looks a good example and well maintained,you would of thought it would have had high line display with the leather but not a main issue thou :happy2:
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Cheers Maxi mate.
Some nice ones on PH too
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Looks just like my old R32,
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FBlAck0ut%2FGolf_R32_and_Leon_Cupra_R_9th_Aug%2FGolfR32LeonCupraR300309056.jpg&hash=a80e71c272377b361cc6b44dd2cd542103963d45)
Mine also had full leather but not highline computer.
If I was you, I'd stay away from a R32 and buy an Edition 30, I wish I had!
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Hi George.
Is it performance related or just the day to day running costs that made you wish you went the ED30 route.
Gulf
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I didn't do enough mileage to notice the low MPG, but the TAX was £550 for 12 months (I believe a few early MK5 models will be in the older / lower tax bracket), mine was also coming up to needing a service which again was circa £500.
The main reason I disliked it was due to the lack of power, my friend bought a 2005 Leon Cupra R around about the same time, and we had a 30mph rolling start race up to 130mph (on my private runway) and his car managed to get a car length on me in standard form. I also don't think it performs well enough to warrant the four wheel drive system.
Pros:
Prestige looks
Amazing sound track, even with the OEM exhaust
Cons (compared to an ED30)
Lower MPG
Heavy 4wd system
Heavy engine
High Tax Bracket
High Servicing costs
Less Torque
Slower
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Thanks for the advice George.I,m looking at both the R and ED30's.My mileage is 14miles a day so like you said that is,nt the issue but that TAX is making me cringe.
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Yea it's terrible. In my opinion R32s come into their own on the track, on the Top Gear test track the MK5 R32 achieved a time of 1:30:4, below show's it standings on the board with the other cars listed at 1 second either side of 1:30:4
1:29.4 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI WR1[14]
1:29.6 - Volkswagen Golf GTI W12-650 Concept
1:30.0 - Autodelta Alfa Romeo 147 GTA 3.7
1:30.0 - Ford Shelby GT500
1:30.1 - Subaru Impreza WRX STi
1:30.1 - Vauxhall Monaro VXR
1:30.4 - Aston Martin DB7 GT
1:30.4 - Volkswagen Golf R32 MK5
1:30.9 - Audi S4 quattro 4.2
1:31.0 - Porsche 911 Turbo (996) (very wet)
1:31.3 - Vauxhall VX220
1:31.3 - Vauxhall VXR8 (wet)[5]
1:31.4 - Audi TT Mk.II 2.0T
In compairson the MK5 GTi posted 1:33:7.
For an every day hot hatch, I'd still choose the ED30 in standard form, but with it's tuning potential it's a no brainer for both that and for a track toy.
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Looks like he's a well known chap on there, I bought my MKV blind from a forum member - you just get a feel for people and their honesty.
Horrible to say, but it's probably for the best it doesn't have Recaros either, more of a target for the scum.
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£550?!! Where the hell does that figure come from? It is expensive at around £440, but not that much. Is the number 4 key broken on your keyboard, George?
The R32 and the GTI are 2 very different beasts and I think a lot of people go into owning the former thinking it's going to be better/faster than a turbo car and then start whinging when they don't get that thump in the back you get when a turbo car comes on boost. The R is a different experience altogether and what you do get is smooth linear performance that has less drama, but is by no means slow. I think you're either an R32 lover or a GTI lover and that the argument as to which is best will rage on forever!
I personally love the lack of drama you get with a big chested naturally aspirated engine and wouldn't swap mine for 10 GTIs. Go and try a few and see how you get on, but if an extra 70p a day on car tax puts you off before you start maybe you're looking at the wrong car?
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In compairson the MK5 GTi posted 1:33:7.
For an every day hot hatch, I'd still choose the ED30 in standard form
The Edition 30 that posted 1:32.6 on the same track? :popcornsoda:
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Gulf the R32 you linked to is a very basic spec car, I think for the money you could defo get an higher spec car with around the same mileage and age?
Have you not though of an S4 or maybe even the E46 M3 or our you a true to live VW nut like most of us on here :rolleye: good luck with the hunt mate and I hope you find the right one.
Darren :happy2:
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That car might be a little basic, but it's in really good condition and a lot of stuff can be retrofitted, as you, more than any of us, should know. :laugh:
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£550?!! Where the hell does that figure come from? It is expensive at around £440, but not that much. Is the number 4 key broken on your keyboard, George?
The R32 and the GTI are 2 very different beasts and I think a lot of people go into owning the former thinking it's going to be better/faster than a turbo car and then start whinging when they don't get that thump in the back you get when a turbo car comes on boost. The R is a different experience altogether and what you do get is smooth linear performance that has less drama, but is by no means slow. I think you're either an R32 lover or a GTI lover and that the argument as to which is best will rage on forever!
I personally love the lack of drama you get with a big chested naturally aspirated engine and wouldn't swap mine for 10 GTIs. Go and try a few and see how you get on, but if an extra 70p a day on car tax puts you off before you start maybe you're looking at the wrong car?
hahah yea you tell him, i love my r32 too, not bothered bought how fast it is or that gtis are faster etc etc, the r32 mated to an dsg box makes the car IMO. love the low down torque and quick gear changes oh and the exhaust with the flapper mod,
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Surprised I don't have a flame grilled arse yet, we're vastly outnumbered on here! :grin:
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Surprised I don't have a flame grilled arse yet, we're vastly outnumbered on here! :grin:
yep we are. im sure the usual die hard gti owners will be along soon enough.... lol
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£550?!! Where the hell does that figure come from? It is expensive at around £440, but not that much. Is the number 4 key broken on your keyboard, George?
The R32 and the GTI are 2 very different beasts and I think a lot of people go into owning the former thinking it's going to be better/faster than a turbo car and then start whinging when they don't get that thump in the back you get when a turbo car comes on boost. The R is a different experience altogether and what you do get is smooth linear performance that has less drama, but is by no means slow. I think you're either an R32 lover or a GTI lover and that the argument as to which is best will rage on forever!
I personally love the lack of drama you get with a big chested naturally aspirated engine and wouldn't swap mine for 10 GTIs. Go and try a few and see how you get on, but if an extra 70p a day on car tax puts you off before you start maybe you're looking at the wrong car?
No need for the aggresive reply, I was doing it from memory, even at £440 it's still horrific.
And giving the tax figure as a pence per day figure is daft, everything sounds cheap when it's divided by 365...
Drive both buddy, but for me an ED30 is a no brainer
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Surprised I don't have a flame grilled arse yet, we're vastly outnumbered on here! :grin:
yep we are. im sure the usual die hard gti owners will be along soon enough.... lol
And here I am :evilgrin:
The 1'32.62 that the ED30 did was done under damp conditions IIRC from the Top Gear magazine. On a dry track you could knock the 2" off easily.
I too love the R32 and I still like the V6 growl. :love:
George posted earlier about the pro's and cons and I can only agree with them, although you need to add the benefit of all weather grip for the R32 - particularly in these last few winters we've had :happy2:
Personally, given the same choice over again I would still choose the ED30 over the R32 if you are going to tune it.
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£550?!! Where the hell does that figure come from? It is expensive at around £440, but not that much. Is the number 4 key broken on your keyboard, George?
The R32 and the GTI are 2 very different beasts and I think a lot of people go into owning the former thinking it's going to be better/faster than a turbo car and then start whinging when they don't get that thump in the back you get when a turbo car comes on boost. The R is a different experience altogether and what you do get is smooth linear performance that has less drama, but is by no means slow. I think you're either an R32 lover or a GTI lover and that the argument as to which is best will rage on forever!
I personally love the lack of drama you get with a big chested naturally aspirated engine and wouldn't swap mine for 10 GTIs. Go and try a few and see how you get on, but if an extra 70p a day on car tax puts you off before you start maybe you're looking at the wrong car?
No need for the aggresive reply, I was doing it from memory, even at £440 it's still horrific.
And giving the tax figure as a pence per day figure is daft, everything sounds cheap when it's divided by 365...
Drive both buddy, but for me an ED30 is a no brainer
No aggression intended, bud. I merely broke down the extra VED into a daily figure (it's actually only 54p or the price of a Mars Bar) to demonstrate what a small difference there really is. You do still have to pay £245 on a GTI remember! :smiley:
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Tax for the R32 is now £460.00.
When I got it MOTed last week the manager said I'd won the prize for the most expensive car TAX he'd seen.
He said it was mad to be on emissions as when it came off the gas tester he said just more output than a fart there son :)
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Hi Mr Gulfstream11,if your still looking for a R32 i might have something that could interest you! :smiley:
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@gulfstream. i have had my R32 for about 2 and a bit month's now and im thrilled to bits with it. if i was you, i would test em both.
if you do decide to go for an R32, get a black one, its defo the fastest colour.
this wont help your decision making any easyer but i do love my .:R
Ste
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Tax for the R32 is now £460
Mine's only band L for some reason. Maybe the DVLA think it has a DSG gayerbox? :grin:
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http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=33016#manu=12243&model=1449&deriv=33016
or for those with impeccable taste.
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=33017#manu=12243&model=1449&deriv=33017
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I'm an R32 forum member :smiley:
Altough due to me doing a silly amount of miles my Mk5 R32 has now gone and has been replaced by a Mk5 Gt TDI Sport :sad1: