MK5 Golf GTI
General => Detailing => Topic started by: matsu on March 11, 2009, 12:18:49 pm
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hi guys
this wkend is my first wkend with my new baby!!
iv had y car just the week but was away for few days..
its had the autoglym polish done from new and previous owner just washed and dried it so i feel i need to give her the porper once over.
i bought
ag shampoo
wheel foamcleaner and ag wheel seal
agsuper resin ploish
ag extra gloss protection
ag aqua wax
men deep crystal carnuba wax 3
got me micro fibres/foam mittt and wheel brush.
i know they arent the best individual products and after some research i know i,ll replace them differently as i go along but i need an idiots guide to what order and hich products you would use from that election.- if one or more is radically wrong i,ll replace b4 the wkend.
thanks in advance for the help.
matsu
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i'd personally bin the ag resin polish for regular use and the foam wheel cleaner
i'm more of a dodo fan
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TBH, if you want a fresh base, get her detailed properly by a detailer (not a valeter). This will give you a fantastic foundation from which to start. Otherwise she'll never be her best.
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cheers guys
i will do in next few weeks but this week its just me and what i got :ashamed:
matsu
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im in the same shoes mate. a ttl noob. if anyone has a regime or like step by step on how to clean and what products to use that would be really helpful to the new guys
thanks
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im in the same shoes mate. a ttl noob. if anyone has a regime or like step by step on how to clean and what products to use that would be really helpful to the new guys
thanks
Have a read through the threads in this section there is loads of info. :smiley:
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Have a read over on detailingworld. Has some good tutorials, especially on two-bucket method (2BM).
Why do you have two waxes?
1. Rinse car.
2. Wash car with shampoo + 2BM
3. Pat dry. Do the wheels + tyres.
4. It's worth getting a clay bar like Meg's smooth surface clay kit. Costs around £22 from halfrauds. Clay the car.
5. Polish using AG SRP, remember to work in the polish as it will break down into smaller and smaller particles. Use an applicator. Work over small areas eg 2m square.
6. Apply AG EGP, allow to dry but not long (only a few mins) and buff off.
7. Apply wax. Buff. Allow to cure for a few hours, repeat.
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thanks again mate.
doing me research at the mo- this forum is very helpful and the guys seem cool!
i bought the aqua wax before id done a lil reading but it will look after the gf's car or mine on a weekly quick wash.
fanx again
matsu
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Have a read over on detailingworld. Has some good tutorials, especially on two-bucket method (2BM).
Why do you have two waxes?
1. Rinse car.
2. Wash car with shampoo + 2BM
3. Pat dry. Do the wheels + tyres.
4. It's worth getting a clay bar like Meg's smooth surface clay kit. Costs around £22 from halfrauds. Clay the car.
5. Polish using AG SRP, remember to work in the polish as it will break down into smaller and smaller particles. Use an applicator. Work over small areas eg 2m square.
6. Apply AG EGP, allow to dry but not long (only a few mins) and buff off.
Is this the method u use,? See I have no cloths or anything and don't know how to use any products. I've just signed onto detailing world and seems like too much info. What sort of chamois or cloths would you recomed to put on and rub off polish. I also have a spinning buffer machine but was unsure if it's to apply or rub off the polish
7. Apply wax. Buff. Allow to cure for a few hours, repeat.
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6. Apply AG EGP, allow to dry but not long (only a few mins) and buff off.
Is this the method u use,? See I have no cloths or anything and don't know how to use any products. I've just signed onto detailing world and seems like too much info. What sort of chamois or cloths would you recomed to put on and rub off polish. I also have a spinning buffer machine but was unsure if it's to apply or rub off the polish
Yes. Don't use microfibre cloths for the polish as this will remove some of it, which you don't want. Get some detailing cloths from halfrauds.
For the EGP/Wax etc you can use microfibre cloths - use a clean one to apply and a clean one to buff off for each product. Tescos do them 2 for £2 in the household cleaning section. Much cheaper than £4 for one cloth from halfrauds.
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6. Apply AG EGP, allow to dry but not long (only a few mins) and buff off.
Is this the method u use,? See I have no cloths or anything and don't know how to use any products. I've just signed onto detailing world and seems like too much info. What sort of chamois or cloths would you recomed to put on and rub off polish. I also have a spinning buffer machine but was unsure if it's to apply or rub off the polish
Yes. Don't use microfibre cloths for the polish as this will remove some of it, which you don't want. Get some detailing cloths from halfrauds.
For the EGP/Wax etc you can use microfibre cloths - use a clean one to apply and a clean one to buff off for each product. Tescos do them 2 for £2 in the household cleaning section. Much cheaper than £4 for one cloth from halfrauds.
Sorry - use microfibre for everything - If you use none microfibre you run the risk of scratching and marring the paint (not good especially when you have done all the work to get the car right)
i bought
ag shampoo
wheel foamcleaner and ag wheel seal
agsuper resin ploish
ag extra gloss protection
ag aqua wax
men deep crystal carnuba wax 3
got me micro fibres/foam mittt and wheel brush.
This is all ok (although as you have said you could replace as you go along with better (in my opinion) and more user friendly products.)
To start i wouldnt worry about the deep crystal and aqua wax just do every thing above that in your list - use the aqua wax as a top up when you wash the car.
JIM
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thanks mate
how often do you reckon to redo what i just done?
i was thinking wash and aqua wax weekly and hit with all the above once per month or just wait till beading wears off and redo?
thanks in advance
matsu
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Hi
Yep, Spot on with the wash and aqua wax weekly - the aqua wax will help keep up the protection - I would also every month redo the extra gloss protection (1 or 2 coats)but do the SRP once every 3-6 months as the SRP will remove the layers you have built up.
Hope this helps
JIM
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fanx for the advice jim. mucho gracias.
have noticed that altho the car is super clean,witv everyone commenting....the car was very dusty quickly, more than before i did the do on sunday.
is it how i did it?
or the products i used ?
or its just been dryer ie no rain and theres more dust /dirt flying about?
stoopid newbie question but???
matsu
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No it's not a stupid question! :smiley:
As it's dryer and has been raining so much the water tends to wash all the muck everywhere, so as it dries the wind picks it up and throws it everywhere... plus you've done all that hard work, got the car sparkling and because it's cleaner you notice the dirt much easier.
If it is a problem, you could use a Quick Detailer, possibly the Aqua Wax, to gently remove the dust with micofibres.
All the best
Jim :happy2:
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Sorry - use microfibre for everything - If you use none microfibre you run the risk of scratching and marring the paint
Really? I was told not to use MF as it's supposed to be designed for cleaning and therefore is good as removing stuff, which isn't what you want with a polish when applying.
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Yep - it's best to use microfibre for everything really... what you take off the surface, whether it's a polish, a wax or a glaze, after you've applied it is excess so your polish will have already done the job that it's supposed to when it's rubbed or machined in and therefore you're only removing what's left.
If you're using anything other than a microfibre, you're running the risk of scratching what you've just done - for example if you machine polish a wing to remove the sractches and you then buff with a microfibre you won't harm the paintwork that you've just corrected, however, if you take a non-microfibre cloth, you run the risk of undoing the correction work, and this applies with whatever process you're doing, even drying the vehicle.
:happy2:
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thanks jim
youve been very helpful.
i did the full works on the GF's mondeo today- really pleased with the result.
i just washed an d used the aqua wax on mine BUT i,m not happy with the results. its abit smeary and everytime i did a bit that had water it just hazed everything around it.
is there an alternative weekly routine i can do to keep the result i got last week on mine and this week on the mondeo estate?
thanks again for helping a keen but dim newbie :ashamed:
matsu
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Hi Matsu,
Sounds to me like you might be using a bit too much product - if you're getting hazing and smearing the product isn't being removed completely... maybe you could try using less product, or alternatively, instead of using the Aquawax invest in a carnauba type wax, which will give much longer durability and protection as well additional gloss, and would only require washing and drying once a week to keep it looking tip-top and then maybe applying the wax once a month.
If you like the idea of a spray-type detailer-come-wax then maybe a spray sealant such as Dodo Juice Red Mist may be a better alternative for you.
Hope this helps
Jim :happy2:
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yep that sounds like me if some is good then more is beta lol
i,ll try using less on sunday or could i just re use the megs3 instead ??
i,ll research the dod red mist tho fanx
thanks again for you help.
matsu
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The Aquawax is a good product so I'd suggest perservering with it to see if the results are better when less is used, but the Red Mist would be the best alternative if you're not happy with it.
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