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All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: Gti_Mad on May 15, 2011, 01:35:22 am

Title: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Gti_Mad on May 15, 2011, 01:35:22 am: Help can't get gears the gear indicator lights on dash n selector are flashin stuck across sum1's drive

Help needed urgently
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: rich83 on May 15, 2011, 01:36:39 am: sh*t.... sounds like its gone t*ts up! :scared:
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Post by: Gti_Mad on May 15, 2011, 01:41:03 am: I hope not mechatronics is less than 2months old !!!!!!
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Post by: rich83 on May 15, 2011, 02:04:19 am: IIRC flashing dsg lever lights points to i being Mechatronics... at least it will be under warranty!
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Post by: Poppa Dom on May 15, 2011, 07:55:30 am: Does sound like mechatronics :sad1:
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Post by: alexperkins on May 15, 2011, 08:48:42 am: VCDS scan asap mate!
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Gti_Mad on May 15, 2011, 09:33:55 am: I'm stuck no where near home gotta try get it home then get some1 local with VCDS 2 hopefully come mine and scan it 4 me :sad1: :sad1: :sad1:
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Post by: alexperkins on May 15, 2011, 09:36:41 am: Where are you now?
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: rich83 on May 15, 2011, 09:36:59 am: Quote from: Gti_Mad on May 15, 2011, 09:33:55 am
I'm stuck no where near home gotta try get it home then get some1 local with VCDS 2 hopefully come mine and scan it 4 me :sad1: :sad1: :sad1:

Where are you? Drop me a text!
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Gti_Mad on May 15, 2011, 09:43:25 am: I'm in whitton near twickenham
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Gti_Mad on May 15, 2011, 10:21:05 am: My mate from twickenham Vw has stole a comPuter from work and has scanned the car the codes are

28775- lost communication with gear shift module-static

02413- selector lever park position lock switch-f319 implausible signal-static
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: rich83 on May 15, 2011, 10:23:11 am: Taken from ROSS-TECH WIKI!!

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/28775/U0103/049411

28775/U0103/049411 - No Communication with Gear Selector Module

Possible Causes
Communication Failure with Gear Selector Module
Communication Failure between CAN-Gateway and Transmission Control Module
Selector Lever (E313) faulty
Tiptronic Buttons (F189) in Selector Lever (E313) faulty
Shift Selector Locking Solenoid (N110) faulty
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: alexperkins on May 15, 2011, 10:30:19 am: It does point to a pretty serious problem

A 'Basic Settings' might clear it
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Gti_Mad on May 15, 2011, 10:54:48 am: Quote from: alexperkins on May 15, 2011, 10:30:19 am
It does point to a pretty serious problem

A 'Basic Settings' might clear it

He's tried that Alex with no joy :sad1: :sad1: :sad1:
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: rich83 on May 15, 2011, 10:58:44 am: Again from ross tech

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/02413

02413 - Switch for Selector Lever Position P Lock (F319)

02413 - Switch for Selector Lever Position P Lock (F319): Implausible Signal
Possible Causes
Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) faulty
When stored in Combination with 00003 - Control Module: Defective
Possible Solutions
Check Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)

i dont think that is a mechatronics problem.
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: alexperkins on May 15, 2011, 11:00:26 am: What would the steering column electrics have to do with the P lock though :confused: on a DSG in any case
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Hedge on May 15, 2011, 11:03:43 am: You can't take the keys out unless it's in P.

Can you move the gearlever/start the car?

Sorry Dawain but I think you may be at the mercy of VW recovery and the dealer on this one. :sad1:
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Post by: stealthwolf on May 15, 2011, 11:04:26 am: Sorry to hear about this dwain. Hope you get it sorted!
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Post by: alexperkins on May 15, 2011, 11:04:36 am: Ah yes very true Hedge. You can tell I havent woken up yet!
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Post by: Gti_Mad on May 15, 2011, 11:11:29 am: Nope keys jammed in ignition but Vw assist man has manually released the lock n now it's fine
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on May 15, 2011, 08:59:56 pm: Quote from: richwig83 on May 15, 2011, 10:23:11 am
Taken from ROSS-TECH WIKI!!

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/28775/U0103/049411

28775/U0103/049411 - No Communication with Gear Selector Module

Possible Causes
Communication Failure with Gear Selector Module
Communication Failure between CAN-Gateway and Transmission Control Module
Selector Lever (E313) faulty
Tiptronic Buttons (F189) in Selector Lever (E313) faulty
Shift Selector Locking Solenoid (N110) faulty

If it's not the mechatronic, then can it be? Suggestions, please.
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Saint Steve on May 15, 2011, 09:02:11 pm: Could be VW have left something loose whilst changing your Mech's no doubt :fighting:
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Post by: Andy on May 15, 2011, 09:02:56 pm: didn't some one have the same trouble and it turned out to be the connection on the gear selector
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: MAT ED30 on May 15, 2011, 10:33:53 pm: bad news mate keep us informed with what vw say :popcornsoda:
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Post by: bacillus on May 15, 2011, 10:46:45 pm: Quote from: maxitrol on May 15, 2011, 09:02:56 pm
didn't some one have the same trouble and it turned out to be the connection on the gear selector

I think that was cmdrfire...
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: GLIDN on May 16, 2011, 04:29:40 am: Welcome to DSG Mechatronic's replacement units.

One of my 5 Mechatronics replacements 2 did the same as you have here.
Mine would turn car off put in park. Restart car, then gear selection would work again. till about 10 - 30 minutes later. It did this again.

It keeps loosing it's "Basic Settings" it's a fault with the Unit. A DSG Reflash from VW or New Basic settings applied will last 1-2 weeks. then end up the exact same.
It's a Faulty Mechatronics unit.

Just going my all my problems I had with DSG on my car, Oh and the excuse they kept giving me.
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on May 16, 2011, 07:51:19 am: Thanks everyone...my motor is booked to have its mechatronic unit replaced on the 24th May. Fingers crossed :drinking:
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Gti_Mad on May 16, 2011, 08:36:58 am: Quote from: MAT ED30 on May 15, 2011, 10:33:53 pm
bad news mate keep us informed with what vw say :popcornsoda:

Yh will do Matt :happy2:

Well he onli manaully pushed the lock pin bk in put it back in drive ignition on and off then it was fine so it got me wondering if I slapped it in2 reverse wile it was still downshifting from 2nd to 1st is this possible ???????
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: MAT ED30 on May 16, 2011, 09:54:06 am: No it locks you out of reverse ie you need to come to a complete standstill to engage that gear.
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Gti_Mad on May 16, 2011, 11:18:59 am: Ok matt well I'm gonna pop Vw when I finish work as I'm not happy with a few things, like the fact the gbox sump plug was loose n leaking oil after they changed the mechatronics unit

And they lied 2 me about rental car age the w@nkers
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Gti_Mad on May 16, 2011, 05:40:24 pm: Well went 2 Vw raised my issues and they took the car there and then so looks like some new bits will be fitted soon

So now have a slowwwwww pug 107 1litre jobby
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on May 16, 2011, 06:06:59 pm: Is there a pic of a mechatronic unit knocking around this forum? Intrigued to see one...couldn't find one with the good old search button.
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Gti_Mad on May 17, 2011, 04:32:08 pm: I'm not 2 sure mojo :happy2:

Right bit of an update dealer rang me 2day few bits on order shud arrive with them 2moz Mornin so hopefully my car should be back by thursday also when I get the car I will find out exactly wot has bin changed and report back

Dawain :driver:
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Post by: rich83 on May 17, 2011, 04:39:17 pm: Excellent... sounds like its nothing to serious then. :happy2:
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Post by: Richn83 on May 17, 2011, 04:42:21 pm: http://www.my-gti.com/825/volkswagen-dsg-mechatronic-replacement (http://www.my-gti.com/825/volkswagen-dsg-mechatronic-replacement)

Square thing with all the solenoids on it, sits in a bath of oil to keep it cool at the bottom of the box.
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Andy on May 17, 2011, 04:42:39 pm: Quote from: xxx_mojo_xxx on May 16, 2011, 06:06:59 pm
Is there a pic of a mechatronic unit knocking around this forum? Intrigued to see one...couldn't find one with the good old search button.
http://images18.fotki.com/v339/photos/1/1128101/4984597/IMG_1005-vi.jpg
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Gti_Mad on May 20, 2011, 07:21:49 pm: Right lads picked the car up from the dealers about half 5 ,

They changed the actual gear selector unit itself so hopefully all is well now :happy2:
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Saint Steve on May 20, 2011, 07:23:37 pm: :happy2:

Hope she's all sorted mate :smiley:
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Gti_Mad on May 20, 2011, 07:26:00 pm: I hope so 2 as wana get her mapped at inters :driver: :driver:
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Post by: rich83 on May 21, 2011, 06:25:11 pm: Excellent.. glad it was an easy/quick fix!
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Post by: stealthwolf on May 21, 2011, 06:37:50 pm: Have you given it a thorough test out? :driver:
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Post by: Gti_Mad on May 21, 2011, 08:09:15 pm: Yep 1 1/2 tanks full of thorough testing last nite :driver:
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Post by: alexperkins on May 21, 2011, 08:10:00 pm: Quote from: Gti_Mad on May 21, 2011, 08:09:15 pm
Yep 1 1/2 tanks full of thorough testing last nite :driver:
:signLOL: :grin: :grin: :happy2:
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: rich83 on May 21, 2011, 08:11:20 pm: Quote from: Gti_Mad on May 21, 2011, 08:09:15 pm
Yep 1 1/2 tanks full of thorough testing last nite :driver:

One and a half?? :surprised:
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Saint Steve on May 21, 2011, 08:17:11 pm: Quote from: richwig83 on May 21, 2011, 08:11:20 pm
Quote from: Gti_Mad on May 21, 2011, 08:09:15 pm
Yep 1 1/2 tanks full of thorough testing last nite :driver:

One and a half?? :surprised:

just to town and back? :signLOL:
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Gti_Mad on May 22, 2011, 03:52:28 am: Yep 100 quid later also :sad1:
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on May 23, 2011, 09:49:10 pm: Quote from: Gti_Mad on May 20, 2011, 07:21:49 pm
Right lads picked the car up from the dealers about half 5 ,

They changed the actual gear selector unit itself so hopefully all is well now :happy2:
How did VW eliminate the mechatronic unit from being faulty?

P.S. Great to hear things are sorted!!!
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: Gti_Mad on May 24, 2011, 06:01:57 am: Purely from the fault codes as it was showing up selector fault so the tested it all out and replaced that, also mechs unit is 2months old :happy2:
Title: Re: Help!!!!!! Dsg problem
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on May 24, 2011, 06:52:30 am: Thanks, mine is going in today to have it's mechatronic unit replaced. Fingers crossed.
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Post by: Gti_Mad on May 24, 2011, 08:38:44 am: Na it shud b fine mate :happy2:
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Post by: Andy on May 24, 2011, 02:08:54 pm: i was half right then :laugh:..glad you got it sorted
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Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on May 24, 2011, 03:56:11 pm: Thanks guys for all your input. I did have to press VW about the mecha unit by providing my own VCDS diagnosis and logged faults.

Just been told I should get my car back before close of play today.

P.s. Does the unit need to be programmed
after it s fitted?