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Title: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: George on May 18, 2011, 07:12:32 am
Hi all, as some of you know I'm on the hunt for an Edition 30. One has come up at the right colour and spec, the only problem is, is that the mileage is 56,000. Owning and enjoying the car with this mileage isn't a problem to me, but seeing as I put around 10k a year onto my cars, I'm worried to what 56,000 will soon develop to.

The car is a 2008 08 reg.

What are peoples opinions on this?

Thanks
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: 182_blue on May 18, 2011, 07:17:35 am
Well if you are happy then its OK, personally i would rather have lower mileage but thats just me.
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: Saint Steve on May 18, 2011, 07:27:05 am
Prefer a higher miler personally, as long as it's service shedule has been carried out by a vw approved dealer.
A car sat around doing nothing will deteriorate if not worse.

It's had maintenance rather then scant servicing for a 3 year old car.

Other thing to consider, is whether the cam belt has been changed.Maybe if it's a dealer sale car, you could ask this to be done, which will save you a HUGE chunk of dollar come next service time.
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: no golf clubs at all on May 18, 2011, 07:42:34 am
What's the average per annum these days 12k?

The car is 3 years old, so it's not hugely high really is it?

50k or 20k Service history essential but also consider how long you'll keep her and what mileage will be at the you sell.
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: JLCoad on May 18, 2011, 08:20:10 am
Wouldnt worry me as long as it has the service history as others have said. I bought mine at 45k and its now on 61k miles and ive not had a problem with it. Fanastic motor.
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: alexperkins on May 18, 2011, 09:36:18 am
Mine had 60k when I bought it back in January, and the majority (over 40k) is motorway mileage as the guy used to go from Yeovil to Newbury 3 times a week

Full VWSH and runs like a dream. As steve says, Id rather have a car that had done 60k of mainly motorway miles than 30k of plodding around towns.
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: Gladiator on May 18, 2011, 10:20:31 am
I bought my 07 ED30 last year with 18k on the clock as knew I would be doing quite high mileage (approx 20k pa) so wanted to give myself a buffer over next few years.

I've now done 40k and over that time had no problems and should still be average mileage come 5 years old with approx 60k.

So I think it's down to personal circumstances and if you feel comfortable having a high mileage motor. Personally I wouldn't buy a high mileage car due to the miles I would add on quite quickly.

But I would echo the other comments and providing it's been fully serviced by VW including cambelt then should be nothing to worry about.

Great choice of car though mate and hope you enjoy as much as I do  :smiley:
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: Frodo-anni on May 18, 2011, 11:00:34 am
Your in the similar situation to me, but im having to remind myself that these cars are now approaching 3-4 years old, so average miles would be in the region of 30-40k now. I was so lucky when i found my mk4 anniversary as it had only done 15k at 3 and half years old, so it still nice and low now, as im only doing approx 8k per year.

My aim is to find a dsg ED30 with good miles and the right spec, but its proving to be very hard.   :sad1:
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: swf7y on May 18, 2011, 11:05:26 am
With all due respect, I think these questions are actually silly. What is average mileage? Is it average mileage PEOPLE do a year or average mileage ENGINES are capable of doing a year? If a car has been looked after and has high mileage, I agree it's much better than a car with low mileage. When you drive it 'normally', you're more likely to get problems.
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: StuF on May 18, 2011, 11:13:58 am
Given the choice I think everyone here would choose a car with low mileage and full service history over the same car with high mileage and full service history.

Its not just the engine that has been subjected to the miles either - suspension components, mounts, brakes and general running gear will bear the brunt of the usage.

I was lucky when I bought mine as it was a garaged mostly weekend use car with about 20k on the clock after 3 1/2 years and full service history.  Wouldnt have bought the same car if it had 60k on the clock.
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: no golf clubs at all on May 18, 2011, 11:27:05 am
I inherited an old style mini in my youth from an ageing uncle,...it only had 300 miles on the clock but was 5 years old!

Despite a service, the car fell to bits in a year through seals and the like going!
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: George on May 18, 2011, 11:33:55 am
Thanks for the response guys! It's not really the fact the car has 56k on the clock, it's more to do with putting an additional 10k on top of that each year that worries me. The difference between 60k and 80k seems a lot larger than the difference of 20k and 40k.

The car is quite highly specced, and is listed at a private dealer at £14,450, which I think is quite expensive with the mileage.

Thanks

George
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: alexperkins on May 18, 2011, 11:38:28 am
Thats massively over priced

To put it into perspective, I paid under 12k for mine with 60k (on the dot), and mine has an incredibly high spec, plus its a DSG 5 door.
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: Richn83 on May 18, 2011, 11:51:25 am
That price doesnt make sense!  My tuppence if your going to make a car high mileage then surely its better to buy a cheaper car that already had the depreciation than buy a low mileage higher price car and turn it into a high mileage example price wise that would surely make the most sense.  But servicing is obviously key as is condition as a high mileage abused car will end up costing alot more than one thats been cared for properly.
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: Frodo-anni on May 18, 2011, 12:17:03 pm
Your in the similar situation to me, but im having to remind myself that these cars are now approaching 3-4 years old, so average miles would be in the region of 30-40k now. I was so lucky when i found my mk4 anniversary as it had only done 15k at 3 and half years old, so it still nice and low now, as im only doing approx 8k per year.

My aim is to find a dsg ED30 with good miles and the right spec, but its proving to be very hard.   :sad1:

I was thinking more for the future, of what mileage the car will be on at the time of selling, i've had my anniversary for 5 years. If i like the Ed30 as much as the anni then i can see myself keeping it a similar time.
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: alexperkins on May 18, 2011, 12:20:13 pm
The biggest issue with higher mileage alot of the time is the psychological barrier people have when it comes to buying a car with high mileage, especially where it is 100k plus. In most cases, the car will happily go on for at least another 60k, but when people see the dreaded 100k its like an immediate no for most
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: swf7y on May 18, 2011, 12:46:36 pm
The biggest issue with higher mileage alot of the time is the psychological barrier people have when it comes to buying a car with high mileage, especially where it is 100k plus. In most cases, the car will happily go on for at least another 60k, but when people see the dreaded 100k its like an immediate no for most

Spot on  :happy2:
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: Carrera2RS on May 18, 2011, 06:40:17 pm
I did 130k in an M5 with very few issues, great car. Look after and sell when the price and mileage dictates, I have 20k on my Pirelli I will probably sell when it's under 50k, or keep. Looked after modern cars are very capable of high mileages.

In Europe, the dreaded milestones are 62k miles and 124k, you can guess why ......
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: RedRobin on May 18, 2011, 06:50:39 pm

Thanks for the response guys! It's not really the fact the car has 56k on the clock, it's more to do with putting an additional 10k on top of that each year that worries me. The difference between 60k and 80k seems a lot larger than the difference of 20k and 40k.


....Hmm, my GTI (not Ed30) has done 93k miles in just under 6 years and I can honestly say she runs the same as she did at 40k. She is very regularly maintained though and has had many parts replaced through modifying and not due to problems. My point is that it's well known how well VeeDubs last if they are looked after. Mileage is of course a factor in the price but need not be an indication of poor quality.
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: jmspear on May 18, 2011, 06:52:36 pm
very interesting thread as I have just bought a mk6 GTD and am about to TRY and sell my 55 plate GTI, not a ed30 but 1 owner car - me, leather, winter pack, folding mirrors, dipping mirror, 5 door, tornado red, full VWSH till three years - 60k miles then specialist every 5k miles, always correct castrol oil, VW main dealer cambelt at 55k miles and 110k miles, currently on 115k miles, runs like a dream in good nick, few stone chips but nothing else, motorway miles every single receipt from new - everything from pads to mot's, new rev d diverter, air con pump, PCV, plugs, gearbox oil changed etc, etc. (I am OCD with my maintenance regime) Wonder whether it will sell? Am petrified that people will look at the 115k miles and say no way, yet she looks and runs like a dream! I guess it will be down to price, anyone hazard a guess as to what I should ask??
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: h4rdy on May 18, 2011, 07:28:29 pm
You know, whats the point of buying a car then worrying about the mileage, garaging, covering it, not enjoying it just to have it then you sell it and the next owner spanks the mileage, leaves it on the street uncovered, puts his dogs in it, smokes, never services it!

Mines done nearly 70k now and I love driving it.

Don't worry about the mileage as the average now, especially on Parkers (10k), is bullsh*t!

You buy a car for £25k never use it and halve its value, no point in that.

£14500 is way too much though, your looking at £12k max for that and that was a year ago!
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: George on May 18, 2011, 08:13:59 pm
Thanks for the advice all, a number of you will have seen my previous threads regarding hunting for the right Edition 30, and I shouldn't think this is the last one either.

As said before, if I was buying the car and it was staying on 56k through the duration of my ownership, I'd snap it up straight away (at a lower price of course). But I'm more bothered with how quickly 56k would develop to 80k. I don't want a car that I'm to scared to use and enjoy just for the sake of putting too many miles on it.

Once again, the search continues for the right Edition 30, time to bump my wanted thread  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: George on May 18, 2011, 08:24:51 pm
If anyone is interested this is the car in question:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201120387439453/sort/priceasc/usedcars/quantity-of-doors/3/transmission/manual/model/golf/make/volkswagen/radius/1501/postcode/hr74je/page/2/keywords/edition%2030?logcode=p

This one also came up for sale last week, but it's 346 miles ~ 6 hours away!  :scared:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2811971.htm
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: Saint Steve on May 18, 2011, 08:27:54 pm
Have you seen this one George??

A very good example and very high spec?

Forumite car so looked after meticulous...

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=184655.0
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: George on May 18, 2011, 08:35:28 pm
Thanks Steve, that one is local too! But wrong colour, gearbox and mileage is too high.

Whilst we are on the subject of over priced Edition 30s, this example looks immaculate and obviously been really well cared for. It was up for £17,850 last week, he's dropped the price but I still think it's expensive!

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2791653.htm
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: Saint Steve on May 18, 2011, 08:40:08 pm
^^^^ that's about 3k over priced.

And that's a private seller trying to shift above an optimistic VW approved used :stupid:

Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: George on May 18, 2011, 08:45:34 pm
I think he's just fishing for someone that will pay the excess for an immaculate and low mileage car. It's black and well over priced, so it can stay where it is :)
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: stu_no_1 on May 18, 2011, 10:40:10 pm
I think if u do high miles buy a low milage car beacause when the milage creeps up thats when the value of ur car rockets down but if u dont do high miles then i dont see the problem buying a well serviced example just think of the miles u will do in a year add it onto whats already on and see if it puts the car over average mileage if it does id say get a lower milage car because i bought my gti for 11k with 59k on the clock sold it 7 months on for 7500 with nearly 80k miles on it so i learned my lesson and bought an 06 plate r32 with 29k miles on it im now up to 38k but its still a long way off being average milage and i could still sell it on if i wanted and get my money back but i dont plan on doing that anytime soon :P
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: RedRobin on May 18, 2011, 10:50:51 pm
Each to their own of course but I really don't understand anyone who enjoys driving a Mk5 GTI, or Ed30, getting worried about racking up their mileage. Where's the enjoyment if you don't drive it!?
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: Truckie on May 18, 2011, 11:30:42 pm
Echo what rr said also the whats average for someone isnt for someone else kinda thing! Dont understand your logic with the 340 mile away one, if you have 14k in your pocket and you want a white edition 30...theres one there in renfrewshire go buy it!  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: George on May 18, 2011, 11:36:45 pm
Look at this eBay rocky horror:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2008-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-GTI-EDITION30-230-SA-WHITE-/220785203335?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3367d2d887#ht_1177wt_1139
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: no golf clubs at all on May 19, 2011, 06:48:57 am
Love the one in Renfrewshire that states "totally original" but the pictures show the car with crap stickers slapped on in odd places  :sick: and no mention of transmission, inside, spec, options, tyres....

Etto but he would stand a better chance of sale if he put detail in the ad and got out the soap and hot water.
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: h4rdy on May 19, 2011, 07:25:25 am
Each to their own of course but I really don't understand anyone who enjoys driving a Mk5 GTI, or Ed30, getting worried about racking up their mileage. Where's the enjoyment if you don't drive it!?

Here here RR.

A lot of people on here just buy to have it but not drive it.

If you love driving them you wouldn't keep seeing posts like this about mileage.

The Touran has done 120k now and ok its not like the ED30 but its still fun if i'm caught out in on the way home from work and its empty and nice.

TBH that doesn't feel much different to the day we bought it.

I have not driven mine for 2 weeks now but there is a reason for that and all we be apparent in the reviews section soon, its an improvement that ensures mine feels like it did and as I plan to keep it the expense is worth it.
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: rogerp on May 19, 2011, 08:40:22 am
I'm am would like to buy an Edition 30 do you have any buying tips like things to watch out for? Thanks
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: _Nathan_ on May 19, 2011, 12:31:37 pm
Likewise - anything specific to look out for on the ed30 over a normal GTi?
Title: Re: Buying an Edition 30 with 'High Mileage'
Post by: M7AXB on May 19, 2011, 12:56:12 pm
That white ed30 is not to far from me! I might go for a wee look at the weekend! Overpriced though!