MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: oldtomo on March 12, 2009, 08:12:09 am

Title: Can someone tell me....
Post by: oldtomo on March 12, 2009, 08:12:09 am
...what these do? If anything?

http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=11789&xSec=156

Or do they just change the look of the car?

Cheers  :smiley:
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: bacillus on March 12, 2009, 08:14:53 am
It's really just cosmetic.

If you really want them, you can get them much more cheaply from your vw dealer as it's an oem part.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: Jaywoo-GTI on March 12, 2009, 08:47:38 am
Just paid 22 pound for min from the dealer and it included air ducting for thr passenger side. Main reason i brought them was to give more air when i fit my FMIC at the weekend.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 12, 2009, 08:48:59 am
What the fcuk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! £58 pounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Awesome: You are really beginning to take the p!ss with your pricing.

From a dealer as Jay says ^^^ £22.

Purely cosmetic, look good!
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 12, 2009, 09:47:45 am
Fook me how much  :surprised: thats just taking the piss out of us  :fighting:
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: VC on March 12, 2009, 09:58:12 am
if you look hard at their website you'll see that they can be out of touch in a few areas  :chicken:

shame, it's something they need to address
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: no golf clubs at all on March 12, 2009, 12:18:32 pm
Oh dear.....this might get ugly.....

If RR and TT get their teeth into this debate again....OPEN FOG LIGHT GRILLS.....airflow etc.... (Im going to avoid this thread from here on in....)  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: tony_danza on March 12, 2009, 12:34:08 pm
Do they just throw numbers up in the air and charge whatever lands on the desk?

Disgusting.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: Top Cat on March 12, 2009, 01:59:38 pm
Do they just throw numbers up in the air and charge whatever lands on the desk?

Disgusting.

Correct and then just to p!ss you off that little bit more they let you work out your own VAT.

Think of it, like your this kangaroo. :grin:  (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftomashandmilly%2FDaft_stuff%2F1b035ee18d45b15ea54d31f51b0df67b.gif&hash=76f3ddfd9709c894d1826a317ffa5d69d22a61b4)
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: JPC on March 12, 2009, 02:46:17 pm
wow....that amount of margin is just shocking!!
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on March 12, 2009, 04:09:17 pm
Did someone say the "open-air" side grills are OEM parts? 

So, what car do they normally fit them on, and why do they have them blocked on the standard GTi?

Just curious...

P.S. Awesome's price is a joke...
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: john_o on March 12, 2009, 04:24:22 pm
 :surprised:
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: ukdub on March 12, 2009, 07:00:47 pm
Do they just throw numbers up in the air and charge whatever lands on the desk?

Disgusting.

Disgusting is a bit over the top isn't it :signLOL:
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: bacillus on March 12, 2009, 07:06:33 pm
Did someone say the "open-air" side grills are OEM parts? 

So, what car do they normally fit them on, and why do they have them blocked on the standard GTi?

Just curious...

P.S. Awesome's price is a joke...

That would be me!   :smiley:

They (the open grills) originally made their appearance on gtis bound for hot climate locations but it was only later that VW decided that they were not really necessary so stopped using them on new cars.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on March 12, 2009, 09:17:47 pm
Do you think the "open grills" look better?
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: winrya on March 12, 2009, 09:19:03 pm
Do you think the "open grills" look better?


They make the front of the car look more purposeful and aggressive IMO.  I really think they improve the front end
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: RedRobin on March 12, 2009, 11:02:35 pm

Do you think the "open grills" look better?


....Do you think they look better?

These arrived today. Really cheap! :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FCFvents.jpg&hash=320d3d2c43a322f6ae88ba255656d2d244afc654)

Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: savechip17 on March 12, 2009, 11:05:46 pm
ive got the open for grills. and think they look better.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: neg on March 13, 2009, 12:20:31 am
Jesus, now thats a price hike!

I wasnt sure onthe look tbh, with closed the flow of the grill I thought looked better - I had some on and removed but I might put back on for a second look  :confused:
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: Jaywoo-GTI on March 13, 2009, 08:40:07 am
I have just fitted them to mine and it changed the appearence a little but does look so much better.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: animal on March 13, 2009, 09:43:25 am
Do you think the "open grills" look better?

Nope. If all the mesh was punched out, they'd look ok. But as it's only a square section on each side, they don't do it for me.

I can't back it up scientifically without doing some work on it, but having worked with CFD in the past, I'd imagine this causes added turbulence and drag at the front of the car, particularly if they are used as a purely cosmetic mod and the air isn't routed any where. Think about trying to move a cup through water open-end first and the resistance you feel. With these open grills that are closed from behind, it's a similar effect
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: bacillus on March 13, 2009, 10:28:38 am
Do you think the "open grills" look better?

Nope. If all the mesh was punched out, they'd look ok. But as it's only a square section on each side, they don't do it for me.

I can't back it up scientifically without doing some work on it, but having worked with CFD in the past, I'd imagine this causes added turbulence and drag at the front of the car, particularly if they are used as a purely cosmetic mod and the air isn't routed any where. Think about trying to move a cup through water open-end first and the resistance you feel. With these open grills that are closed from behind, it's a similar effect

Maybe you want the fully finished grill on the right...    :smiley:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fy295%2FRaven6t9%2Fvwmostlyventedgrills.jpg&hash=22f6bb63a49bb09d464ae23de966c1f99ff2b568)
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: Top Cat on March 13, 2009, 10:29:36 am

Do you think the "open grills" look better?


....Do you think they look better?

These arrived today. Really cheap! :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FCFvents.jpg&hash=320d3d2c43a322f6ae88ba255656d2d244afc654)



your another slut buying all this carbon. These looked the shizzle on Neil M's
I was going to say get some pics up, but of course no need to with you  :wink:
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: savechip17 on March 13, 2009, 10:56:02 am
Do you think the "open grills" look better?

Nope. If all the mesh was punched out, they'd look ok. But as it's only a square section on each side, they don't do it for me.

I can't back it up scientifically without doing some work on it, but having worked with CFD in the past, I'd imagine this causes added turbulence and drag at the front of the car, particularly if they are used as a purely cosmetic mod and the air isn't routed any where. Think about trying to move a cup through water open-end first and the resistance you feel. With these open grills that are closed from behind, it's a similar effect

Maybe you want the fully finished grill on the right...    :smiley:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fy295%2FRaven6t9%2Fvwmostlyventedgrills.jpg&hash=22f6bb63a49bb09d464ae23de966c1f99ff2b568)




did you cut them extra holes yourself?
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: animal on March 13, 2009, 11:12:10 am
That is one very knackered Dremmel and a lot of patience you must have... good work!
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: RedRobin on March 13, 2009, 11:13:03 am
^^^^

The problem with cutting out all the holes is that you then see rough looking bulkhead in the upper region behind.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FDRL_Hella_explore.jpg&hash=59b233c1b02cdc22f13c7b9ea3043b5171a60e09)
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: animal on March 13, 2009, 11:15:29 am
Mask it off and spray it black?
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: RedRobin on March 13, 2009, 11:21:07 am

Mask it off and spray it?


....Yes, the best solution but still pretty untidy looking as you'd still see the sides of the fogs etc etc - Messy visually.

I prefer the square section but it looks like an amateur afterthought stylistically (I know I've got them on mine). I really detest the filled in ones as they look like a pretend vent.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: animal on March 13, 2009, 11:52:21 am
I'm a big advocate of form following function, not the reverse. For whatever reason VW decided to ditch the open grills. I'm happy to accept that an engineering decision has out weighed an aesthetic one.

I've seen people solve similar problems with cross members etc. showing through mesh buy painting the offending object black. You'd be surprised how well it hides everything that sits behind the grill. Obviously you wouldn't want to use a gloss black that would shine through, but with a matte finish, unless you got really close or direct light fell on the grill, you'd be hard pushed to see what was behind the full open grill.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: AwesomeSarah on April 02, 2009, 03:16:26 pm
Hi
Having had the time to catch up with quite a bit of forum work , I am now here on yours and decided to see what is going on
To my distress I see this
Now , what can I say?
These products , we have not been getting these from the dealers..... we have been shipping them in from America  :ashamed:
But then , now we are looking in to these from the dealers.....
I am so sorry , you will find that parts we get from the dealers , we sell at dealer prices or less
So our apologies , but we will be getting a pair on order from the dealer now , as we have just got the part numbers , so please watch , as the prices will be lowered very soon
Sarah
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: joesgti on April 02, 2009, 04:02:36 pm
you need to get your post count up  :P

see you next saturday!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: AwesomeSarah on April 03, 2009, 08:33:38 am
Hi Joe
If the flamin phones was to stop ringing , maybe I could get some work done  :mad: but hey ho!!!!
Hopefully we will have a bit more time soon , apparently there is a reccesion coming soon  :scared: but dont know when
Sarah
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: NEWEY on April 03, 2009, 09:00:48 am
nice one for sorting them out. im currently waiting on a few bits from yourself but there out of stock :sad:
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: AwesomeSarah on April 03, 2009, 10:25:48 am
nice one for sorting them out. im currently waiting on a few bits from yourself but there out of stock :sad:
Hi
We have a couple of bits on back order at the moment
But feel free to get in touch with me , and I can see where we are with them
America is a pain to deal with just now , and there has been a few of our suppliers gone bump :( , but we are working on new products and new suppliers all the time to try and get some prices down
But I will help all I can
Sarah
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on April 03, 2009, 10:57:43 am
You know why?  That's becoz Obama was here in the UK...
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: AwesomeSarah on April 03, 2009, 11:05:45 am
You know why?  That's becoz Obama was here in the UK...
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 :grin: never thought of that!!!!!!
But I am sure we will all be better for the meet eh?
Sarah
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: NEWEY on April 03, 2009, 11:19:55 am
you have a PM Sarah :)
Title: Re: Can someone tell me....
Post by: AwesomeSarah on April 03, 2009, 11:27:54 am
you have a PM Sarah :)
Replying now..... :) good news too
Sarah