MK5 Golf GTI
		All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Technical Workshop => Topic started by: _Nathan_ on May 25, 2011, 08:34:24 am
		
			
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				Hi guys, anyone seen this before? Seems to happen when I lift off when coming to a stop, was reset on Monday and came back on this morning but have used car monday night and yesterday so not happening all the time.
 
 
 1 Fault Found:
 008584 - Bank 1; System too Rich at Idle
 P2188 - 008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
 Freeze Frame:
 Fault Status: 11101000
 Fault Priority: 0
 Fault Frequency: 0
 Mileage: 84772 km
 Time Indication: 0
 Date: 2000.00.00
 Time: 16:42:10
 
 Freeze Frame:
 RPM: 879 /min
 Load: 34.9 %
 Speed: 2.0 km/h
 Temperature: 81.0°C
 Temperature: 44.0°C
 Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
 Voltage: 13.843 V
 
 Readiness: 0000 0001
 
 Interesting that the fault code was recorded at a higher milage than the car had done  at the time :laugh:
 
 
 
 Thinking throttle alignment in VCDS and checking for air leaks, especially around the intercooler followed by more drastic measures.
 
 Maybe MAF or Lambda sensor?
 
 Also guess I should check HPFP - is the easiest thing to do just smell the oil?
 
 Thanks
 
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				Hi Nathan, rich idle does sound odd but i had a lumpy idle a while back and that was when i changed the spark plugs and PCV and havent had it since. As i said i flagged it to Revo and VWR when the light popped up but i was reassured it was nothing to be concerend about although i can see why you would be. the mileage seems fine though as its in km so.. 84 772 kilometres = 52 674.8787 miles which is about right. Id be interested to see the out come though im sure its nothing to worry about otherwise i will feel a bit deflated with VWR and Revo both of whom i really think have been great to be honest. 
			
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				Been reading the yank forums?
 
 Ive seen this fault code many times, one was a split in the turbo inlet hose, the other was a faulty maf.
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				DV check on the Ed is relatively simple as it's right at the front of the engine.
 
 Still don't understand why you are getting the System too Rich code.  :confused:
 
 
 17705/P1297/004759 - Pressure Drop between Turbo and Throttle Valve (check D.V.!)
 
 Possible Symptoms
 Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) ON
 Power Loss
 Possible Causes
 Leaking Hoses and/or Pipes between Components
 Boost Pressure Control Valve (N249) faulty
 Diverter Valve faulty
 Throttle Body dirty
 Possible Solutions
 Check Hoses and Pipes between Components
 Check / Replace Boost Pressure Control Valve (N249)
 Check / Replace Diverter Valve
 Check / Clean Throttle Body
 Perform Throttle Body Alignment
 Special Notes
 Did anyone install an extra (wrong) dump valve?
 When found in the NAR 2.0T (BPY) check RVUTB: 01-09-03 or 2018919 for updated Crankcase Breather Valve
 If the breather valve is faulty, full engine vacuum is typically found when removing the oil cap at idle.
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				O rings missing on intercooler hose. Massive thank you to the people who did the work so badly in the first place ;), fair to say that Nick didn't get the work he paid for. Be careful who you trust to do mechanical work on your cars.
 
 Got a few bits to sell now as I've replaced some stuff that didn't need doing :D
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				Sounds like a result.  :happy2:
			
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				Thanks for your help too matey.  :happy2:
			
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				O rings missing on intercooler hose. Massive thank you to the people who did the work so badly in the first place ;), fair to say that Nick didn't get the work he paid for. Be careful who you trust to do mechanical work on your cars.
 
 Got a few bits to sell now as I've replaced some stuff that didn't need doing :D
 
 
 Glad its sorted mate, safe to say i wont be using revo's mechanics again  :fighting:
 
 to think it cost me about 400 quid to put back to standard and they cocked up a few things  :surprised:
 
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				I wasn't gonna name them matey  :signLOL:
 
 I'm glad it is all fixed now, no reflection on you as you paid money in good faith for the work to be done, I didn't even think of checking this stuff as I assumed it would've been done perfectly by them...
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				Did you get the rich at idle fault code back at all nathan? or is your car still running on stock code?