MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Kiwi on June 07, 2011, 09:35:48 am
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Morning All,
I have just taken the leap, in terms of jumping in the deep end of modding the Edition 30. What I find intriguing is reading through alot of for sale ad's & members write ups about modding, typical around gaining more power, that around six months later and alot of cash spent, that they are selling up, and going back to standard or even selling the car.
I mean the cost so far for me just this month has been £1200.00 on parts secondhand, so god knows what some people have spent on buying it all new & I haven't even got it mapped yet, which will be another £750 ( Engine & DSG box ) ( Hopefully Revo will give a big discount at GTI International event )
So anyone got any thoughts as to why?
Kiwi
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G'morning Kiwi :smiley:
I think it's because they can get more money if they sell their mods separately. However, I don't understand anyone modding their car if they're only going to keep it a couple of years, let alone only 6 months!
When/if I sell mine I won't be bothering to put her back to standard - Too much hassle and expense and too many things like Quaife diff, plus it would break my heart - I think of my car as much more than just a lump of metal. As a friend recently told me: My car defines me.
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i think alot of the enjoyment is actually building the car to the standard u want and are happy and then the majority seem to move onto the next project, i did this before with my old car, got it exactly how i wanted it then after a couple of months split the car to sell as there was nothing left that i wanted to do to it.
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I think of my car as much more than just a lump of metal. As a friend recently told me: My car defines me.
Sounds like me all over :signLOL:
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As Liver has said i modded my car to get it the way i want to.
I generally don't keep a car more than 4-5 years so for me i mod the cars as and when i have them. It is sometimes harder to sell a car modified so returning to standard makes it easier. The dealer were going to knock £1750 off my car if i sold it to them modified due to how hard it would be for them to sell. So i returned it to standard and sold the mods that won't fit the new one for nearly £1300 (Which has been used to buy the mods sitting in my garage awaiting the new arrival :grin:). So im actually £3k better off.
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Im like you carl. Keep for 4-5 years then move onto the next best thing
My last few cars have gone to friends that appreciate the mods and are happy to pay the extra to benefit from it though which has been somewhat convenient.
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i think alot of the enjoyment is actually building the car to the standard u want and are happy and then the majority seem to move onto the next project, i did this before with my old car, got it exactly how i wanted it then after a couple of months split the car to sell as there was nothing left that i wanted to do to it.
....Yes but having got the car to how you want it, don't you then want to enjoy that for a while? - I know I do. My car has been exactly how I've wanted it at every stage of its modding during the past 6 years.
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this is very true but i did get bored of not as such tinkering at weekends and fitting new parts etc and a new project appealed more, i intend to keep this golf for a year or two more so i will be enjoying it when i have got it how i want it :drinking:
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I don't do any of the tinkering myself but if I did I think the effort would make me want to keep the car even more! But I know what you mean and there's not a right way or a wrong way - We're all different :drinking:
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As Liver has said i modded my car to get it the way i want to.
I generally don't keep a car more than 4-5 years so for me i mod the cars as and when i have them. It is sometimes harder to sell a car modified so returning to standard makes it easier. The dealer were going to knock £1750 off my car if i sold it to them modified due to how hard it would be for them to sell. So i returned it to standard and sold the mods that won't fit the new one for nearly £1300 (Which has been used to buy the mods sitting in my garage awaiting the new arrival :grin:). So im actually £3k better off.
^^^X2. when I sold my Ed30 about 18 months ago, I actually sold parts for circa £1500. I mapped her for 150miles, and removed it (SC - car was awful to drive), so IMO not all mods enhance the car. we are not all the same thankfully.
The buyer did not want a modded car. One big lesson I learn't is the car without mods is a cracking car, and as a daily driver is far better as a standard car IMO for 99% of the time. VW spend a lot on development and it rightly shows.
An interesting point, is that mainstream VW dealers are getting wise to specs and Modding, when I sold my Roc R, the dealer knew the exact spec of the car from his computer, including interior, exterior and factory options. He did not want any deviations from that spec, not even extra OEM deviations (eg C/control), so if you do Mod, keep all the old OE parts, or sell it privately to another enthusiast (hopefully) and recoup?
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QD that definitely is an interesting point as im about to add xenons and cruise to my car. I dont really understand that approach from a dealer. If its OEM being added to car as long as its exact same from factory e.g. having headlight washers and auto levelling kit fitted also for the xenons then where would the problem be? Or im guessing maybe the dealer wouldnt want to put warranty onto something that didnt actually leave the factory like it?
Surely if its be done properly to manufacters spec i.e oem then just because its not on the long codes on the boot sticker shouldnt really make a difference. That will mean a dealer would rather you take the RNS 510 out and put the standard 310 back in, before trade in :laugh:
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I know exactly what you are saying Alan, I didn't really understand it, either. Not really tried to understand, just sold the parts on.
It maybe something as simple as warranty or indeed advertising. It may even have something to do with the underwriting process in the VW approved scheme
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I think its due to people not wanting a modded car and often modded cars sell cheaper than a standard one. I know I would much prefer to buy a standard car than one with bits already done. A modded one i always think would have been thrashed about all the time but thats just me!
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I think its due to people not wanting a modded car and often modded cars sell cheaper than a standard one. I know I would much prefer to buy a standard car than one with bits already done. A modded one i always think would have been thrashed about all the time but thats just me!
....Some modded cars are much better maintained and looked after than standard ones. Anyway, I don't even like to think about selling my car!
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I think its due to people not wanting a modded car and often modded cars sell cheaper than a standard one. I know I would much prefer to buy a standard car than one with bits already done. A modded one i always think would have been thrashed about all the time but thats just me!
Not just you, I reckon this is the thinking most of the general public would have about a modded car (me included), and therefore would be worth less.
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I think its due to people not wanting a modded car and often modded cars sell cheaper than a standard one. I know I would much prefer to buy a standard car than one with bits already done. A modded one i always think would have been thrashed about all the time but thats just me!
....Some modded cars are much better maintained and looked after than standard ones. Anyway, I don't even like to think about selling my car!
RR makes a good point, some modded cars are better maintained, some are not. The maintenance/mods carried out should be backed up by comprehensive records, the statement 'my mate services it for me, he used to work for VW' would mean nothing to me.
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I think its due to people not wanting a modded car and often modded cars sell cheaper than a standard one. I know I would much prefer to buy a standard car than one with bits already done. A modded one i always think would have been thrashed about all the time but thats just me!
Not just you, I reckon this is the thinking most of the general public would have about a modded car (me included), and therefore would be worth less.
....True, but the average Joe Public wouldn't be looking at modded cars at all - Enthusiasts would recognise what's what and be more interested. Dealers won't be interested because they can't think beyond making the most money. It all depends on the individual car and history of course.
I think I'd be more worried if I learnt that a used car I was interested in had been modified and then offered for sale as stock and without mention of once being modded - It kinda smells of dishonesty even if it's only the seller trying to maximise his/her sale price.
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I have sort of done this with old cars, the reason was i didnt keep cars too long as i got bored quickly, to relive this boredom i would mod the car to make it different, this would help for a short period but in the end i would still want a new car so would sell.
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I think its due to people not wanting a modded car and often modded cars sell cheaper than a standard one. I know I would much prefer to buy a standard car than one with bits already done. A modded one i always think would have been thrashed about all the time but thats just me!
Not just you, I reckon this is the thinking most of the general public would have about a modded car (me included), and therefore would be worth less.
....True, but the average Joe Public wouldn't be looking at modded cars at all - Enthusiasts would recognise what's what and be more interested. Dealers won't be interested because they can't think beyond making the most money. It all depends on the individual car and history of course.
I think I'd be more worried if I learnt that a used car I was interested in had been modified and then offered for sale as stock and without mention of once being modded - It kinda smells of dishonesty even if it's only the seller trying to maximise his/her sale price.
I do wonder how many people would say its been modified and then put back to stock? You do make a good point though!