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All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: jakeyED30 on June 11, 2011, 02:01:35 am

Title: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: jakeyED30 on June 11, 2011, 02:01:35 am
Hi

I have searched this and other forums on remapping my ED30 and ive been seeing very mixed reviews on bother these tuners all with different bhp outputs.

Superchips website says a gain of 61bhp 291bhp when ive seen people claiming 307bhp

if anyone could give me any figures or reviews on either to try help me make my mind up would be great.

Thanks :happy2:
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: heavyd on June 11, 2011, 06:46:03 am
Revo, shark performance and pdt maps are all better than superchips IMO, ive had them all :driver:
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: JackG on June 11, 2011, 07:40:58 am
Hi

I have searched this and other forums on remapping my ED30 and ive been seeing very mixed reviews on bother these tuners all with different bhp outputs.

Superchips website says a gain of 61bhp 291bhp when ive seen people claiming 307bhp

if anyone could give me any figures or reviews on either to try help me make my mind up would be great.

Thanks :happy2:

Were you located? Pop to dave at PDT? I have his stage 1 map on my car and it's brilliant, revo maps are very aggressive wich can lead to wheel spin when the car spools up, the map PD running has done is just right IMO
Power was 301.1 (had a twintake done at same time) pulls well all the way through apart from were my HPFP let's it down slightly!
Maybe try the free revo trial?
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: E30Dom on June 11, 2011, 09:42:50 am
I wouldn't bother with REVO trial, just get a full map. Trials are nothing like a full map. I am well impressed with my Revo stage1 map... Looking forward to having it RR'd next Saturday! ;-)
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: edd666999 on June 11, 2011, 09:55:47 am
Hi

I have searched this and other forums on remapping my ED30 and ive been seeing very mixed reviews on bother these tuners all with different bhp outputs.

Superchips website says a gain of 61bhp 291bhp when ive seen people claiming 307bhp

if anyone could give me any figures or reviews on either to try help me make my mind up would be great.

Thanks :happy2:

If i was you i wouldnt get worked up over who can offer you the most power, you should be looking at how drivable the car is after the map,the support you get after the sale and a proven track record regards to engine longevity.

If you go superchips you will get a handset with a map they put on all ed30's. I had a superchips stage 1 and was very impressed with it, I had issues going to stage 2+ with them though. personally wouldn't use them again

REVO will map your car on some rollers and if there are any issues there is a good chance they will be picked up on the before and during dyno runs. i have revo stage 2+ map and love it.

I have not heard anything bad about shark performance maps and i believe they are very competitively priced.
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: TrickGTI on June 11, 2011, 12:08:20 pm
Shark performance maps are very highly rated over on the skoda boys forum and as said price is very good to.
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: alexperkins on June 11, 2011, 12:11:48 pm


If you go superchips you will get a handset with a map they put on all ed30's. I had a superchips stage 1 and was very impressed with it, I had issues going to stage 2+ with them though. personally wouldn't use them again


Not entirely true. They will customise the map based on your logs if you send them across
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: edd666999 on June 11, 2011, 12:14:02 pm


If you go superchips you will get a handset with a map they put on all ed30's. I had a superchips stage 1 and was very impressed with it, I had issues going to stage 2+ with them though. personally wouldn't use them again


Not entirely true. They will customise the map based on your logs if you send them across

Oh yeah they are very helpful and will send you maps. i had 16 off them  :confused:
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: alexperkins on June 11, 2011, 12:18:10 pm
16!? thats a little scary!
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: heavyd on June 11, 2011, 12:54:01 pm
I had about 5 stage 3 maps of superchips aswell, and they were all still crap :confused:
Shark performance also do the same where you can buy the handset, and they'll email you the map, and you can put it on the car yourself, and swap between stock and performance map, also they'll send you an imobiliser map, and the handset also works as a fault code reader :happy2:
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: alexperkins on June 11, 2011, 12:59:05 pm
I think superchips are only good up to Stage 2 on the bluefin from what ive read
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: jakeyED30 on June 11, 2011, 04:42:31 pm
Hi thanks that has defiantly pointed me in the right direction of a revo map, i like aggressive maps as ive always had aggressive on my subarus.

I did call superchips and wasnt very impressed with the custome service, i asked for some info on the ED30 map and the guy just said "i take it youve not looked on our web site" gave me a price and that was pretty much it, i couldnt get a lot more out of him.

so revo i think it is, i have a dealer close in Dudley called Alden Automotive they have a rolling road and i know of other cars that have been there with good results, i take it revo will send there generic ED30 map and then will be put on rollers for a power run..?

also what is the stage 2..?

i take it its exhaust air filter etc.... does the car need a remap by revo after these are fitted..?

i will be fitting a cat back miltek next week and an induction kit maybe before maybe after the map.

Thanks again
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: E30Dom on June 11, 2011, 05:02:47 pm
Yeah you stge 1 revo, then when you add air/filter or just turbo back exhaust you can have stage 2 remap for £50;-)
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: edd666999 on June 11, 2011, 06:51:13 pm
Best thing to do is just get a downpipe rather than the cat back, you can then have a stage 2 map. The catback doesn't add any power and you won't need your map tweeked for it
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: jakeyED30 on June 11, 2011, 10:26:20 pm
Hi do you know what sort of sound I would get with just a de-cat..?.I'm after that nice sound, driving it standard you can here mapped with an exhaust it's goin to sound really nice.

I wonder how close to a milltek it would sound with a de-cat and then have someone like powerflow remove the resonator..?
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 11, 2011, 10:27:34 pm
I prefered the sound of just the downpipe on my car.  makes the exhaust note deeper but not intrusive.  Ruined it when i added the cat back
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: jakeyED30 on June 11, 2011, 11:03:35 pm
De-cat with the resonator removed might be the answer... Would be good if anyone was in the midlands Wolverhampton area with an exhaust on that I could meet to hear... Really don't want to shell out £500 and not be happy... I just want that nice cough sound you get on gear change (if that makes any sence) with out it being to loud, and obviously as much power as I can get.... :happy2:
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: Fizgti on June 12, 2011, 01:13:54 am
Would this advise be the same as the normal gti? And when you guys say filter do you mean just a panel filter like a k an n?
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: martziniuk on June 12, 2011, 08:21:03 am
I wouldn't hesitate to recommend DNA Tuning, at roughly half the price of the rest they give excellent figures which are up with the best tuners or better.
The SRS ii option means you can map at home too. I have a Graph in "the Ultimate Dyno thread", this is from a k03 Octavia.
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: bigeyd on June 12, 2011, 08:38:12 am
Revo
I know its more expensive but hey if you wanted cheap you'd get a map off fleabay
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: martziniuk on June 12, 2011, 11:19:14 am
I wouldn't go with Revo, bad customer service and I've seen some dangerously lean AFR plots which put me off.   :fighting:
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 12, 2011, 04:33:51 pm
I wouldn't go with Revo, bad customer service and I've seen some dangerously lean AFR plots which put me off.   :fighting:

there's alot of similar thoughts going around at the moment across all the forums.  i do think alot of the issues with revo come as a result of people winding their own settings up to high with the SPS switch
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: martziniuk on June 12, 2011, 06:42:18 pm
I wouldn't go with Revo, bad customer service and I've seen some dangerously lean AFR plots which put me off.   :fighting:

there's alot of similar thoughts going around at the moment across all the forums.  i do think alot of the issues with revo come as a result of people winding their own settings up to high with the SPS switch
Quite possibly which in my eyes makes it dangerous for people without VCDS as you cannot log the changes.
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: jakeyED30 on June 12, 2011, 06:51:57 pm
all tuners will have problems, from what research i have done so far revo seems to be the best about....can anyone recommend a  good revo agent in the west midlands...midlands vw has popped up a few times, has anyone used them..?
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: jakeyED30 on June 13, 2011, 08:18:27 pm
Spoke to midland vw today, they no longer use revo and have moved to custom code maps, he reckons standard it's a 300bhp map and with exhaust decat and induction kit 330 340 bhp... Sounds good!! He's done around 20 ed30's and said they all go like stink ! So will post a review after it's done.  :happy2:
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: martziniuk on June 13, 2011, 08:26:51 pm
Spoke to midland vw today, they no longer use revo and have moved to custom code maps, he reckons standard it's a 300bhp map and with exhaust decat and induction kit 330 340 bhp... Sounds good!! He's done around 20 ed30's and said they all go like stink ! So will post a review after it's done.  :happy2:
Have you searched Custom code?
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: Hedge on June 13, 2011, 09:38:04 pm
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Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: Saint Steve on June 13, 2011, 09:39:12 pm
Spoke to midland vw today, they no longer use revo and have moved to custom code maps, he reckons standard it's a 300bhp map and with exhaust decat and induction kit 330 340 bhp... Sounds good!! He's done around 20 ed30's and said they all go like stink ! So will post a review after it's done.  :happy2:
Have you searched Custom code?
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:scared:

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Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: jakeyED30 on June 13, 2011, 10:03:55 pm
I have had a little search and to be honest from what ive read so far all seems ok.... also i have a friend with and audi rs6 and one with an rs4 they have both been to unit 20 and had mapping work done, they use custom codes for there maps and have had good results with no problems as to yet.

but im now thinking not a good idea!!! i shall keep reading.. feel free to shed some light.....
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2011, 10:39:54 pm
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i wouldnt touch them with someone elsec car let alone my own.

Id put Shark Performance/APR/REVO/P-Torque on the list of mappers i would use, maybe Jabbasport but the list ends there for me
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: martziniuk on June 13, 2011, 11:02:04 pm
I have had a little search and to be honest from what ive read so far all seems ok.... also i have a friend with and audi rs6 and one with an rs4 they have both been to unit 20 and had mapping work done, they use custom codes for there maps and have had good results with no problems as to yet.

but im now thinking not a good idea!!! i shall keep reading.. feel free to shed some light.....
I have a friend who had a 1.8t who used Custom Code, his turbo blew and his cylinder head valves seals went, this was from running too lean. He got his car rebuilt but it was never the same again.
But you seem to know better than me so go for it  :stupid:
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: rich83 on June 13, 2011, 11:12:28 pm
I have had a little search and to be honest from what ive read so far all seems ok.... also i have a friend with and audi rs6 and one with an rs4 they have both been to unit 20 and had mapping work done, they use custom codes for there maps and have had good results with no problems as to yet.

but im now thinking not a good idea!!! i shall keep reading.. feel free to shed some light.....
I have a friend who had a 1.8t who used Custom Code, his turbo blew and his cylinder head valves seals went, this was from running too lean. He got his car rebuilt but it was never the same again.
But you seem to know better than me so go for it  :stupid:


I ran a custom code map on my old 1.9tdi mk5 for about 50k miles with zero problems!
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: jakeyED30 on June 13, 2011, 11:43:55 pm
I have had a little search and to be honest from what ive read so far all seems ok.... also i have a friend with and audi rs6 and one with an rs4 they have both been to unit 20 and had mapping work done, they use custom codes for there maps and have had good results with no problems as to yet.

but im now thinking not a good idea!!! i shall keep reading.. feel free to shed some light.....
I have a friend who had a 1.8t who used Custom Code, his turbo blew and his cylinder head valves seals went, this was from running too lean. He got his car rebuilt but it was never the same again.
But you seem to know better than me so go for it  :stupid:

i dont know better than anyone hence asking the questions.....

my conversation with Jodie at Midland VW sounded very convincing and he sure does know his stuff on vag thats for sure, god knows why hes using custom codes if so many people dont like them.. :laugh:
Title: Re: ED30 remap..? revo or superchips
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2011, 11:49:56 pm
I have had a little search and to be honest from what ive read so far all seems ok.... also i have a friend with and audi rs6 and one with an rs4 they have both been to unit 20 and had mapping work done, they use custom codes for there maps and have had good results with no problems as to yet.

but im now thinking not a good idea!!! i shall keep reading.. feel free to shed some light.....
I have a friend who had a 1.8t who used Custom Code, his turbo blew and his cylinder head valves seals went, this was from running too lean. He got his car rebuilt but it was never the same again.
But you seem to know better than me so go for it  :stupid:

i dont know better than anyone hence asking the questions.....

my conversation with Jodie at Midland VW sounded very convincing and he sure does know his stuff on vag thats for sure, god knows why hes using custom codes if so many people dont like them.. :laugh:

you have to cinsider that he will always support CC if thats who he deals with.  ID always advise to go for independant recomendations and normally if i read about negative points or am warned away from something i would normally drop them as an option