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Title: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2011, 07:14:01 pm
how dos

My computer cabinet isnt the kindest place to put a tower unit for a desktop and it gets bloody hot and used to shut down saying it was to hot.  As it happens i set about the case with a dremel and have fitted a new fan on the outside of the unit which blasts air into the inside and it seems to have done the trick.  the case is much cooer to touch but i dont know about the CPU.  the heat sink on the CPU  was beyond caked with dust o ive cleaned that as well.

So, does anyone know of any CPU/mptherboard temperature monitors that will work.  Ive tried a few and they have all said either CPU or Motherboard not supported.

Motherboard is an Asus PSVDC-MX and the CPU is an Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 13, 2011, 07:17:52 pm

Mainboard   Cd ussually come with Cd with utils which include CPU temp / fan speed etc
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2011, 07:19:22 pm

Mainboard   Cd ussually come with Cd with utils which include CPU temp / fan speed etc
mike i bought this in 2006 iirc.  believe me when i say i have no idea where any of the discs are :grin:
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Hedge on June 13, 2011, 07:42:48 pm
You could try this. http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: stealthwolf on June 13, 2011, 07:45:15 pm
I used to use motherboard monitor. Not sure if it's still around these days. Either get some ducting into the computer cabinet to optimise airflow or switch to watercooling.
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 13, 2011, 07:50:07 pm

Liquid cooling FTW & Overclock it till it screams for mercy  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2011, 10:50:12 pm
You could try this. http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

tried that one.  'intel processor not supported'.  tried quite a few with similar responses
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Hedge on June 13, 2011, 10:54:17 pm
Time to spend some money.  :party:
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: stealthwolf on June 13, 2011, 10:59:49 pm
mike i bought this in 2006 iirc.  believe me when i say i have no idea where any of the discs are :grin:
Are you not able to go to the mobo manufacturer website and download the software?
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: stealthwolf on June 13, 2011, 11:00:29 pm
Which CPU do you have?
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2011, 11:22:03 pm
Motherboard is an Asus PSVDC-MX and the CPU is an Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz

as above :happy2:
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: bacillus on June 13, 2011, 11:22:51 pm
You need the Asus Probe program. It monitors cpu temp and fan rpm.

You can get the latest version off www.majorgeeks.com but cant say if you'll need an earlier version to work with your motherboard.
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2011, 11:25:48 pm
You need the Asus Probe program. It monitors cpu temp and fan rpm.

You can get the latest version off www.majorgeeks.com but cant say if you'll need an earlier version to work with your motherboard.

will try that mate :happy2:
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: bacillus on June 13, 2011, 11:26:52 pm
Direct link http://majorgeeks.com/ASUS_PC_Probe_II_d3301.html

If that version doesn't work, post back, and I'll dig up the motherboard cd that came with my old asus board that supported that P4 intel processor.
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2011, 11:47:03 pm
JACKPOT!!!!!

cheers pal.

Now for the next question :grin:

CPU warning temperature- whats excessive?  Mine is floating at around 65degrees.  Peaking at around 80 when downloading.

Am i right in saying that the CPU fan extracts air away from the CPU heatsink and  not onto it?  Just a thought as i have installed this new fan (about 100mm diameter directly opposite the fan blowing air onto the CPU.  

Would it be better to flip the fan around so it blows the hot air from the heat sink out of the tower, or leave it as is blowing cool external air onto the heatsink???

Edit---
Just found this http://www.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/cs-007999.htm#Specifications (http://www.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/cs-007999.htm#Specifications)  looks like around 70 degees max is about what it should be.  its floating around 60-65 so approaching the maximum.  god knows what it was hitting before i did this
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: bacillus on June 14, 2011, 09:00:31 am
Normally the heatsink fan blows air on to the heatsink. That being said, your cpu is running too hot. Is your hsf actually working?
If it was me and the fan was working, I would take the heat sink off, clean off the thermal interface and re-apply some fresh interface.
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: stealthwolf on June 14, 2011, 09:09:24 am
Have you taken the computer out of the cupboard to see if the temps drop? What about running prime95?
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 14, 2011, 05:44:49 pm
Normally the heatsink fan blows air on to the heatsink. That being said, your cpu is running too hot. Is your hsf actually working?
If it was me and the fan was working, I would take the heat sink off, clean off the thermal interface and re-apply some fresh interface.

HSF??  is that heatsink fan? if so yes that is running fine.  had a look under the heatsink and it looks like there was some substance or gel there originally which isnt anymore.  is that the interface you talk of?  if so il buy some and see how it goes
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 14, 2011, 05:45:06 pm
What about running prime95?
prime 95?
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 14, 2011, 05:47:08 pm

You could remove the heatsink and apply some fresh thermal paste?  It will transfer the heat to the HS more efficiently

Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: bacillus on June 14, 2011, 06:14:36 pm
HSF??  is that heatsink fan? if so yes that is running fine.  had a look under the heatsink and it looks like there was some substance or gel there originally which isnt anymore.  is that the interface you talk of?  if so il buy some and see how it goes

Yep, sometimes the thermal interface material dries up leading to an overheated cpu. Just a tip, spread the new thermal paste thinly on the cpu only after cleaning up the old stuff.
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 14, 2011, 06:26:00 pm
will do it this weekend.  Off to take that tomorrow in wales for a few days so ill be too busy screaming for robbie and the pet shop boys to care about the thermal paste
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: stealthwolf on June 14, 2011, 07:33:22 pm
Places max load on the cpu so you can see how temps fare with whatever you do. I'd start off by move the unit to a more open air environment, see what the temps are like. Then take the panels off and see how the temps respond. It's fairly easy to get a larger fan to plug in to maximise cooling. I've also remoed the fan and cleaned the crap between the fins on the heatsink which improved things markedly.

As above, can get tim cleaner and tim paste from the likes of maplins. Remember to have an old credit card handy. Helps with spreading the tim.

Might be an opportunity to upgrade the cpu to the max supported by the mobo, as well as fit a better aftermarket heatsink and fan.
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 14, 2011, 08:28:36 pm
Might be an opportunity to upgrade the cpu to the max supported by the mobo, as well as fit a better aftermarket heatsink and fan.

Fair point.

This is what the ASUS website says about my motherboard and CPU
Quote
LGA775 socket for Intel® Core™2 Extreme/ Intel® Core™2 Duo/ Intel® Pentium D/ Intel® Pentium 4/ Intel® Celeron D
Compatible with Intel® 06/05B/05A processors
Support Intel®EM64T/Hyper-Threading Technology

*Only PCB R2.0(or later version) supports FSB 1066 MHz
*Due to chipset limitation, the Intel Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology, C1E, and TM2 are not supported in this model)

Having a look online now for new CPU options.  Dont really have a clue what im looking at.  Seems like the maximum GHZ i can manage is 3.4Ghz or 3.6ghz!!! :scared: :scared:

  have really good graphics card, sound card and 4GB DDR2 ram, 2x 150GB HDs, and 2 DVD re-writers, so not really worth while selling up, if i can make the CPU more efficient and improve the cooling.

Only use it for surfing the net, Autocad, Electrical design software and Microsoft office.  Dont play games tbh

Edit--would this one work http://www.pcbuyit.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=754 (http://www.pcbuyit.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=754)
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: bacillus on June 14, 2011, 09:57:57 pm
before upgrading, check on the asus site to see if there is a bios update with microcode to recognise that cpu
Title: Re: CPU temperature monitors
Post by: stealthwolf on June 14, 2011, 09:58:43 pm
+1. You'd need a mobo bios flash before it'd support the latest cpus.