MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on June 18, 2011, 08:47:22 pm
Any recommendations?  Need 2 fronts, and although enough tread to pass the MOT both on an advisory.  I am not feeling especially flush right now and am not driving much being a summer cyclist! Don't really want to spend more than £100 a tyre fitted. 

What are Kumho like nowadays? The KH31 seem to be well received and are £83 fitted by Blackcircles?   Happy to order online but would like a fitted price not just mail order

Cheers in advance all  :happy2:
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: Hurdy on June 18, 2011, 11:30:23 pm
Vrdestein Ultrac Sessanta's if you are looking at reasonably priced tyres with good grip. :smiley:
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on June 26, 2011, 03:03:43 pm
Thanks - but they are £122 each from Blackcircles!

Views on Kumho anyone?
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on June 28, 2011, 07:21:19 pm
No one ever had to buy tyres for their GTI or do you all use £120+ premium rubber?  Come on, help a damsel in (not a lot of) distress out  :grin:
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: four! on June 28, 2011, 10:12:59 pm
I had some on my previous car (not a gti) they were reasonably priced and lasted well and were quiet on the road

On my experience in the past be carefull going for something too cheap, they often don't grip very well and may give lots of road noise, Leaving you thinking why  didn't I spend the extra £10 or so each side.

Good luck
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: Nasir on June 28, 2011, 10:19:56 pm
Be aware that just because the outlay to buy the tyre is cheaper it may not last longer than a more premium tyre which will cost you more in the long run as you'll have to change the tyre sooner. You'll also not have as much grip etc.

Here are a couple of premium tyres around your budget:

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m54b0s16p12403/VREDESTEIN_TYRES_CAR_VREDESTEIN_ULTRAC_SESSANTA_-_225_45R17_94Y_XL_TL_

Most people love these tyres on this website and at £88 are good VFM.

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m54b0s16p73204/DUNLOP_TYRES_CAR_DUNLOP_SP_SPORT_MAXX_TT_-_225_45R17_94Y_XL_MFS_TL_

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m54b0s16p12745/GOODYEAR_TYRES_CAR_GOODYEAR_EAGLE_F1_ASYMMETRIC_-_225_45R17_94Y_XL_TL_

Check out tyrereviews.com for a good idea of what people think of a certain tyre. I know these aren't fitted but fitting shouldn't cost more than £30 and with this info you may get discounts at your local tyre place.
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on July 18, 2011, 10:33:25 pm
Thanks guys, apologies for my tardy reply!

What are people's views on the Falken 452s, come in around £91 from Blackcircles.  The Goodyears are £110ish, the Vredesteins £120!  Or anyone running T-1Rs on a GTI, have had them on a less powerful car before, can get for £89ish

One of my fronts is a Dunlop Sport Maxx.  It was changed when I got the car, done around 5000 miles and down to 2mm which seems rather crap!?  The other is some no name rubbish.  Got the traction light spinning in the wet today, think will need the tyres sooner rather than later

Any discount codes out there for BCs or Valuetyres?  There are also a couple of decent indys near me, will see what they have in the size.  

TBH I cannot be doing with getting tyres delivered and then finding fitting especially as I try to cycle to work weather permitting and carrying car tyres home would be a challenge   :signLOL:
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: rich83 on July 18, 2011, 10:44:44 pm
http://www.camskill.co.uk/m54b0s16p12403/VREDESTEIN_TYRES_CAR_VREDESTEIN_ULTRAC_SESSANTA_-_225_45R17_94Y_XL_TL_

Vred... cheap!!  :happy2:

Falkens 452 are cack... do not buy them.
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on July 18, 2011, 10:54:30 pm
Thanks

They are still £90 then I have the hassle of getting them home and indeed fitted - being a woman I will inevitably be ripped off

Thoughts on Toyo?  Can get those fitted for £90
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: Nasir on July 19, 2011, 12:50:42 am
Seriously buy the Vreds, other stuff won't compare at that price point. Go to your local tyre fitter and say you're only paying  around £35 to fit these, or if you're unsure a VW dealer will outsource it for you for a slightly higher price,
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: mortygttdi on July 19, 2011, 06:01:37 am
Iv'e been a Toyo man myself and my last car I had the T1-R but it was a focus ST and the sidewalls suffered with the heavy front end, Toyo stopped doing the T1-R so I now have the PX4's on and although good they are not T1-R good so think Ill be going Dunlop sport Maxx next

Darren
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on July 19, 2011, 08:14:47 am
Given I do about a 100 miles a week usually in traffic, not sure I'll notice the difference - I don't drive the car especially hard - the Vredesteins are around £125 each fitted, so £35 a tyre more versus the Toyos is a big difference...especially as I should really do all 4!  :scared:

Maybe the Sport Maxx are the compromise at around £100 a corner, although the Toyos at sub £90 is a very good price and the fitting centre is at the top of my road!
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: rich83 on July 19, 2011, 08:47:49 am
The vreds are not 125 fitted.

They are just less than 90 quid from camskill and the you should be able to get them fitted for around 5 pounds per tyre.
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: Stg123 on July 19, 2011, 10:50:01 am
I am in the same position, when I bought my GTI, it had some bizarre tyres (Runway Enduro 916) that I have never heard of fitted to it, and quite frankly they are shocking, although they do allow for some unintentionally spectacular slides on roundabouts. I had the Toyo T1R on my Saab 9-3 aero, and they were extremely good on that- excellent wet and dry grip, and the fronts lasted 15,000 miles of occasionally "spirited" driving, whilst the rears were probably good for another 5,000 at least. They were quiet as well. I can't decide whether to go for the Toyos again, or the Vredesteins. A neighbour of mine who has a mk5 GTI which is re-mapped and sporting a new exhaust to get it to 245-250bhp has bridgestone potenzas on his car and recommends them. Has anyone experience of the different tyres on the same car and could give some feedback on each?
I also admit I am a tyre tart and like the look of the toyos as they match, but to help cure my affliction could someone post a phots of the Vreds on their car so I can see how they look with their opposite tread pattern.
Thanks
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: Nasir on July 19, 2011, 10:52:19 am
Given I do about a 100 miles a week usually in traffic, not sure I'll notice the difference - I don't drive the car especially hard - the Vredesteins are around £125 each fitted, so £35 a tyre more versus the Toyos is a big difference...especially as I should really do all 4!  :scared:

Maybe the Sport Maxx are the compromise at around £100 a corner, although the Toyos at sub £90 is a very good price and the fitting centre is at the top of my road!

You misunderstood me, I meant £35 for all 4. Even that is a high price, I would usually pay around £25 for all 4 fitted and balanced.
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on July 19, 2011, 09:21:02 pm
Everywhere around here charges a minimum of £10 a corner, London prices...plus the faff of getting them home and fitted...nowhere to store them and they will STINK the car out  if I leave them in there for the inevitable few days!!!  :scared:
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: rich83 on July 19, 2011, 09:31:32 pm
Where are you based?? PM me if you prefer!
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on July 19, 2011, 09:35:58 pm
Sutton, Surrey :)
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: rich83 on July 19, 2011, 09:38:04 pm
Leave that with me i shall see what i can do! Im sure you can get them fitter for less that that.
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on July 19, 2011, 09:51:19 pm
The hassle and the pong put me off more ...tyres are the one thing I have never wanted to buy online!
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: rich83 on July 19, 2011, 09:52:52 pm
They dont smell that bad....  :smiley:
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on July 19, 2011, 10:09:01 pm
They do in my experience!!  Maybe boys are immune  :signLOL:
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: Black9 on July 19, 2011, 10:37:54 pm
I fitted some Vredesteins Ultrac sesantas to my GTI today which runs 18" and have to say they're brilliant. Wet weather grips great, good turn in and amazing feel. Definitely recommended
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: Frenzy on July 20, 2011, 12:46:39 am
i've just bought 2 Vreds (225/40/18") as i have two non-matching budget rear tyres which i've been wanting to replace since i bought the car. At 99 beans from Cam Skill it was too rude not to. I would have loved to have bought 4 and done all the corners at once but with a newborn need to save some cash for other necessities  :innocent: and the 2 avons on the front are decent.

I am very tempted to buy a couple more though  :evilgrin:

As to fitting prices it will cost me £10 a corner as i live in London. If you wanna hear P-155 take London prices i was quoted £40 for 2 corners fitted by one joker, he told me he'd do a discount of £70 if i needed all 4 fitting  :stupid:

ps Do you put new rubber on the front or the back, i can't remember :laugh:
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: Phathead on July 20, 2011, 03:36:36 pm
Thanks - but they are £122 each from Blackcircles!

Views on Kumho anyone?

I've used Kumho's previously and found then very reasonable. Good grip in dry conditions, obviously not as good as your "high performance" end, the only downside I found with them was the road noise was greater than the "premium" rivals......

Wear was good and wet grip without aquaplanning was good. All round a good performer and perfect for a cheaper tyre if you don't push your car to the limit of grip and you can put up with the tyre noise....few more notches on the stereo worked for me!! ;-)

Hope that helps!!  :happy2:
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on July 20, 2011, 08:33:26 pm
Thanks.  I assume the Toyos would be better, as they usually retail for over £100 a corner?  I did 4000 miles last year, I really don't feel the need to spend £500 on tyres at the moment!
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: Frenzy on July 21, 2011, 10:38:01 pm
received my 2 Vreds today  :party:

just bought two more  :evilgrin: so i can do all 4 corners at once  :drinking: (don't wanna mix asym with sym)  :driver:
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on August 07, 2011, 07:58:28 pm
Still not bought tyres, but having driven in torrential rain on the M4 pretty much from Swindon to the M25 today, I will need to at the end of the month

I have found the Vreds fitted for £107 a corner which is ok (Event Tyres mobile, so would come to me) - £90 from Camskill but I would rather not have the hassle of delivery (they only deliver between 8 and 5.30 and don't tell you when) and then getting them fitted to save £20!

Any other recommendations - the Toyo deal ended but can get 4 T1-R fitted by Black circles for £368.  For under 5000 miles sensible-ish driving is the extra £60 worth it?
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: Nasir on August 07, 2011, 08:39:20 pm
Yes, you drive a GTI for a reason.
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on August 07, 2011, 09:28:52 pm
I am also law abiding and live in the urban bit of Surrey which is very congested!

I like the power away from lights or as needed but that doesn't mean I cane it beyond speed limits  :wink:  I need an automatic for a gammy knee and only the GTI DSG provides enough poke

I have had a clean licence for going on 20 years for a reason...


...probably luck  :grin:
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: Frenzy on August 08, 2011, 12:08:37 am
I've done 80 odd miles on my Vreds now, round trip of 60 miles today down the M4 in a torrential downpoour and they were great though i was taking it easy as they aren't fully bedded in yet. Once it dried out i made them work a bit harder and definitely did on the way back. Great grip and feedback and as i say at less than 100 miles run on them i still haven't experienced the best of them.   :popcornsoda:

Comfort and noise are great too - highly recommended and what the car deserved, my best "mod" so far  :party:
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: vickster on September 06, 2011, 09:29:11 pm
With the deteriorating weather, I just ordered 4 Vredesteins from Event Tyres for £107 a corner to be fitted at my home on Saturday am.  Cheapest I could find and minimal hassle!  Everything else half decent was £95-100 a corner at least so actually these turned out to be in the same ballpark.

Thanks all for recommending.  Going to be another costly month  :scared:
Title: Re: 225/45/17 tyres
Post by: Frenzy on September 06, 2011, 11:26:35 pm
good choice, i'm now coming up to 400 miles on them and they are excellent, very planted and good feedback. I've done a few bends leading onto motorways which have demonstrated a bit of centrifugal force for those inside the car  :grin: but the tyres haven't so much as murmured and the car has remained true all the way round  :innocent: