MK5 Golf GTI

General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Janner_Sy on June 22, 2011, 06:39:58 pm

Title: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 22, 2011, 06:39:58 pm
Ill be doing the first 1/4 mile in the fabia this weekend at inters.  What's the best way of launching dsg, bearing in mind I dont have launch control.

Also how much if an improvment do you think I would make by stripping out the rear seats and spare tyre etc or is it not'worth it
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: edd666999 on June 22, 2011, 06:59:16 pm
I'll be joining you in my first run too!

I dont think im going to bother with launch control, esp off in sport (providing its dry) my prada spec 2's will get me going i hope!
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Poverty on June 22, 2011, 06:59:30 pm
Trade it in for something fast.....
































Like a megane rs trophy  :indifferent:
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: PDT on June 22, 2011, 07:00:52 pm
Get rpms up a little, manual mode in dsg with traction control off and hold the car on the brake pedal with left foot.

Will take a bit of practice, try launching in 2nd as well.
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: edd666999 on June 22, 2011, 07:03:20 pm
Get rpms up a little, manual mode in dsg with traction control off and hold the car on the brake pedal with left foot.

Will take a bit of practice, try launching in 2nd as well.


How do i launch in 2nd with dsg????
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 22, 2011, 07:28:19 pm
Well I just had a go at seeing at how easy it is to strip the seat out. As it hapens its all quick'release latches so no sockets required thought it would be rude not to weigh it all :jumpmove:

Seats benches and backs, spare tyre, tool kit, parcel shelf weigh a shopping 46.4kg.

If im running 213hp at 1200kg that's 177.5hp/ton

Drop that 49.5kg and that will make me 185hp/ton

What realistic difference will 10hp/ton make over a 1/4 mile.  I guess less weight over the rear can only be a good thing'for weight transfer
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Saint Steve on June 22, 2011, 07:31:10 pm
Ill be doing the first 1/4 mile in the fabia this weekend at inters.  What's the best way of launching dsg, bearing in mind I dont have launch control.

Also how much if an improvment do you think I would make by stripping out the rear seats and spare tyre etc or is it not'worth it

firstly for a  fast time, you need a fast car :evilgrin:

secondly, it must don a VW badge and have GTI on the boot lid,

If it's got a skoda badge....... Forget it :signLOL:




being serious for a change, I've found short shifting from 1st into 2nd with DSG helps with getting the wheels to keep a grip on the Tarmac.

if your running Saturday, the track surface might be wet, Sunday's looking better for track action.
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: edd666999 on June 22, 2011, 07:32:18 pm
Ill be doing the first 1/4 mile in the fabia this weekend at inters.  What's the best way of launching dsg, bearing in mind I dont have launch control.

Also how much if an improvment do you think I would make by stripping out the rear seats and spare tyre etc or is it not'worth it

firstly for a  fast time, you need a fast car :evilgrin:

secondly, it must don a VW badge and have GTI on the boot lid,

If it's good a skoda badge....... Forget it :signLOL:

You dont half take some stick
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 22, 2011, 07:33:31 pm
We'll see lol
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Saint Steve on June 22, 2011, 07:36:12 pm
Added some other points^^
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Jk911 on June 22, 2011, 07:42:24 pm
Why would you take your rear seats out, it's not a race car , don't you want to see your true 1/4 mile?
Unless you drive around all day with no rear seats  :signLOL:
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 22, 2011, 07:43:49 pm
It'll all be out for track days anyway, I just want to see its real performance at best. I know what it does on the road
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Top Cat on June 22, 2011, 07:52:33 pm
As long as you dont try and launch with more the 2500 RPM you should be fine. Dont mash the pedal in first after that you should get grip with your foot flat down i did  :wink:.  :driver:
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: jhtrophy on June 22, 2011, 08:06:13 pm
Trade it in for something fast.....



You not getting bored of that yet :stupid: get over it, your car is faster than a Renault that is half the price :congrats: now take it to the ring and show everyone one some 7s  :grin:




























Like a megane rs trophy  :indifferent:
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Poverty on June 22, 2011, 08:12:19 pm
Well I just had a go at seeing at how easy it is to strip the seat out. As it hapens its all quick'release latches so no sockets required thought it would be rude not to weigh it all :jumpmove:

Seats benches and backs, spare tyre, tool kit, parcel shelf weigh a shopping 46.4kg.

If im running 213hp at 1200kg that's 177.5hp/ton

Drop that 49.5kg and that will make me 185hp/ton

What realistic difference will 10hp/ton make over a 1/4 mile.  I guess less weight over the rear can only be a good thing'for weight transfer


You haven't accounted for fluids and driver
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 22, 2011, 08:14:42 pm

Sy will be going for a steady state run wrapped in cling film in the morning  :P

No harm in only using 1/4 tank and no washer fluid tho
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: RobH on June 22, 2011, 09:22:08 pm
Tbh after been out in Blades polo you can pretty much floor it and forget. They dont have huge torque so grip isnt really an issue. launch around 2000rpms and then sit back and :indifferent:

DSG will do the rest.
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 22, 2011, 09:23:54 pm
Tbh after been out in Blades polo you can pretty much floor it and forget. They dont have huge torque so grip isnt really an issue. launch around 2000rpms and then sit back and :indifferent:

DSG will do the rest.

And whilst making it to the finish get on the iPhone and edit the typo in thread title  :P :P
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Hurdy on June 22, 2011, 09:57:36 pm
Vrs weighs 1200kg with a 90% full tank.

Make sure you have under half a tank and you'll drop another 20kg off the weight too :happy2:

I too would suggest a shortshift to 2nd gear as the supercharger will definitely overwhelm the tyres if you don't

Don't bother messing with anything of the DSG, just hold it on the brake as you would normally do at a set of lights and then press the fast pedal when the lights turn :smiley:
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Poverty on June 22, 2011, 10:15:40 pm
Tbh after been out in Blades polo you can pretty much floor it and forget. They dont have huge torque so grip isnt really an issue. launch around 2000rpms and then sit back and :indifferent:

DSG will do the rest.

Its a bit like having a big dog and being a little owner. The dog takes them for a walk not the other way around  :signLOL:
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: heavyd on June 24, 2011, 06:26:16 pm
Has anyone got any tips for an ED30 dsg? is the launch control that cra :confused:
Do you need a lid on aswell for the strip?
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 24, 2011, 06:30:35 pm
You need a lid when over about 115 iirc..

Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: heavyd on June 24, 2011, 06:43:23 pm
You need a lid when over about 115 iirc..


Guess you wont need one then :signLOL: So will I need to borrow one for the day or not teh Sy :stupid:
Didnt get a stand pass off Ben either :sad1:
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: chungster on June 24, 2011, 06:58:50 pm
dont think they make u wear a lid at Inters unless u have a cage / open top / or serious monstrous power

dont think Ben or Steve used a lid last year and i certainly didn't.
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: heavyd on June 24, 2011, 07:03:58 pm
Ok thanks :happy2:
Title: Re: achievibg good 1/4 mile times
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 24, 2011, 08:45:39 pm
You need a lid when over about 115 iirc..


Guess you wont need one then :signLOL: So will I need to borrow one for the day or not teh Sy :stupid:
Didnt get a stand pass off Ben either :sad1:
neither did I, he's meeting me at the gate tomorrow