MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Technical Workshop => Topic started by: SteveS on March 17, 2009, 06:25:37 pm
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Thought this may be helpful for some guys. Sure interest me.
Car: Golf GTI Edition 30
Mods: Carbonio + Filter
Settings: B6 T5 F9
Power: 303 hp / 283 torque
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Car: GTI
Mods: Revo2, Milltek TBE, Carbonio+ITG
Settings: B7 T5 F7
Power: Not yet dyno'd with these settings (JKM on 18th April)
Very smooth power delivery :happy2:
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just changed mine..
Car: Golf GTI Edition 30
Mods: Carbonio + Filter
Settings: B8 T6 F9
Power: unknown
red dont have a go :evilgrin:
Also now the traction control, even when off cuts in a bit on the straits with foot down... :driver:
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red dont have a go :evilgrin: now the traction control even when off cuts in a bit on the strait gas down... :driver:
....Sorry, Steve, but I don't understand this part of your post^
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thought u may have a go at me (in a niceish way) lol because i changed settings without "logging" as per previous thread about the switches
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My traction control does the same. I wish it would just fcuk off!
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@ SteveS
Sorry, mate - I was never wanting to have a go at you (IIRC) but probably just trying to help with advice, even if that 'advice' can sometimes be a strongly expressed opinion.
I've recently learnt that the settings potentially do less harm than I used to think they did. I think my point is that some settings suit individual cars better than others and my advice, for whatever it's worth, is to take notice of what the data logging can tell you.
For example, WhiteGTI's car and mine have a very similar spec and mods but there are differences and our settings are different.
Rightly or wrongly I'm inclined to advise people against trial and error experimenting - But that's just my opinion (currently).
:happy2: :drinking:
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You hit the nail on there head there Robin :smiley: :smiley: :happy2:
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08 S3
B6 T6 F9
328bhp, 345ft/lbs
with TBE and panel filter :smiley:
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@ SteveS
Sorry, mate - I was never wanting to have a go at you (IIRC) but probably just trying to help with advice, even if that 'advice' can sometimes be a strongly expressed opinion.
I've recently learnt that the settings potentially do less harm than I used to think they did. I think my point is that some settings suit individual cars better than others and my advice, for whatever it's worth, is to take notice of what the data logging can tell you.
For example, WhiteGTI's car and mine have a very similar spec and mods but there are differences and our settings are different.
Rightly or wrongly I'm inclined to advise people against trial and error experimenting - But that's just my opinion (currently).
:happy2: :drinking:
I was only being silly, i knew you wouldnt actually have a go. i just knew u thought it was a bad idea.. when im next at an event, ill see if anyone has vcom to check
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08 S3
B6 T6 F9
328bhp, 345ft/lbs
with TBE and panel filter :smiley:
thats a lot of torque :rolleye:
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lots of the revo'd/ remapped K04 cars are running them sort of figures, gives the clutch a hard time though :laugh:
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Mine did 315bhp and 375lbft but not sure what setting were are as it was just trying to find boost problem
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strange, my lbft was 283 at 303hp...
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to be honest its yours that seems a little low steves
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thats my point....
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This numbers chasing mentality can only lead to discontentment... :smiley:
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well even Revos site states 310..
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well even Revos site states 310..
When I spoke to Revo when we were having probs they said there stage 2 cupra only got 316bhp on dyno dynamics rollers and mine did 315 on them so I think they over hype the bhp for stage 1 if you ask me
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This numbers chasing mentality can only lead to discontentment... :smiley:
but 283ft/lbs does seem a little low for a k04 car :smiley:
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any ideas y ?
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not really something to guess at, did you have RR'd straight after the map because they do take a few days to settle
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yus. i did
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yus. i did
it will be better now i would think
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I think you only get about 70% of full potential immediately after map, with full potential reached after a couple of tankfulls. :jumpmove:
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oh goodie.
i have also increased my settings now..
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^^ Greedy boy! :party:
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What fuel are you running?
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indeed,
as above :signLOL: F9 (revo say standand cant cope with anything more)
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What fuel are you running?
indeed,
as above :signLOL: F9 (revo say standand cant cope with anything more)
Sorry mean't to say what fuel in the tank?
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:p tesco 99
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I think that Revo assume V-Power is used and tune accordingly.
I'm not saying that Tesco 99 isn't up to it though and I expect that it's the octane which is important.
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Boost
Range 0 Valet Mode
Range 1 Stock Boost
Range 6 Performance Boost
Range 9 Aggressive Boost
Timing Adjustment:
Range 0-3 91(US)/95(Euro) Octane Fuel
Range 4-6 93(US)/98(Euro) Octane Fuel
Range 7-9 Unleaded Race Fuel over 100 Octane
Fuel Adjustment:
Range 0 Stock Air-Fuel Ratio (AFR)
Range 9 Performance Air-Fuel Ratio (AFR)
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The great thing about REVO is the flexibility it gives you. This means you are able to fine tune your settings for your particular mods.
To take proper advantage of this you really need to be logging with VAG-COM at the same time as adjusting the settings.
For example:
Buy a new intake - Log your Intake Air Mass before and after installation of the intake. If you are getting significantly more g/s with the new intake you will probably be able to up your boost a little. Once you up the boost log block 115 in VAG-COM and make sure your actual boost is able to meet your specified boost.
Buy a HPFP - Now you should be able to richen up your AFR a little. What does this mean? Well it means you can supply the fuel pump with more fuel which should in turn bring down your Exhaust Gas Temperatures (EGTs). This means you will be able to run a some more timing and this is when you will start making some nice power gains :smiley:
Above is just a couple brief examples of what you can do. There are many many possibilities. This is the beauty of REVO, the SPS plus and VAG-COM.
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Great post, KRL :happy2:
And even without the SPSplus and VAG-COM/VCDS, you can rolling-road or go out with a laptop with a Revo agent and fine tune accordingly.
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My settings (Stage 1) are T5/B7/F9.
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Mine on Stage 2+ are T6/B1/F9 :ashamed: and its running 255BHP :confused: :embarrassed:
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er B1????
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Mine on Stage 2+ are T6/B1/F9 :ashamed: and its running 255BHP :confused: :embarrassed:
Why only 255bhp and Boost@ 1??
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boost 1 will explain the "only 255" surely
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boost 1 will explain the "only 255" surely
Perhaps but it could be a typo so he really needs to revisit this thread for some clarification.
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he is having probs so can only run boost 1
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he is having probs so can only run boost 1
Hmm, how come he got the car dynoed when it's having problems? :confused:
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he is trying to find out what the car is doing wrong so put on the dyno to see outputs and vagcom logs i think
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What problems are you having Illyun???? :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
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Just out of interest, what figures are Stage2 K03 cars with a TBE realistically making?
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he is trying to find out what the car is doing wrong so put on the dyno to see outputs and vagcom logs i think
....Exactly.
This is when a dyno (preferably run by someone who already knows the car and has logs to be compared to) can be a very useful diagnostic tool.
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Just out of interest, what figures are Stage2 K03 cars with a TBE realistically making?
....Mine's 240-ish when B6 / T5 / F9.
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Just out of interest, what figures are Stage2 K03 cars with a TBE realistically making?
Mine is 245 - so I'd say 240-250 realistically!
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What problems are you having Illyun???? :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
Well I had my car remapped to Stage 2 back in November last year and it has been running fine. The day before Santa Pod on the 31st Jan, I went to Northampton Motorsport as recommended by Revo because I was in a hurry to get Stage 2+ for RWYB and I had not been able to get to JKM in time the day before. Anyway, they put the code on and I went happily thinking I had approx 350bhp... though it didn't seem much different. My Santa Pod times weren't that good - best was 13.67s 1/4 mile, but that was put down to having a full tank of fuel, a Revo boost setting of only 5 and only 1 go on the strip - and for the first time. Plus the front wheels were at 1.6mm so I thought the time would be better when I these shortcomings had been resolved next time.
I was getting my boost gauge fitted by JKM early this month and thought I should also get the car settings sorted and the car RR'd to make sure everything was running as it should be. I spent a whole day at JKM and Keith told me that the car was having problems. It had been dyno'd at 321bhp back in November when I had Stage 2 installed and despite now having Stage 2+, it was still making 320bhp?! :sad: Also, boost was set to 9 and not 5 as I had requested. Keith initially suspected that the code hadn't been installed correctly, but when he reinstalled Stage 2+ on, it made no difference.
I had to rebook the car in and Keith had a few discussions with Revo HQ who were/are adament that the code is fine and that there was/is an issue with the car.
I went back to JKM on Thursday 12th and left the car overnight. Keith went through a lot of things and found that there was an issue with lean fuel after 4k rpm which is potentially serious as it can damage the engine - although I am not sure exactly how and why. Basically, Keith did all the usual checks and tests, checking for vacuum leaks and even replacing the fuel pump, fuel filter etc... but couldn't find the problem in that time. Oh, he had to fit a Carbon Fibre bonnet at the same time which took some time up :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: Priorities and all that :grin: :grin: :grin: He produced a report for me that describes the work carried out which I have inserted below.
The lean fuel issue disappears for lower boost settings (and therefore lower power) and the car is currently running safely at 255bhp, boost 1 on Stage 2+ software - basically on stock settings although the power isn't stock due to the exhaust, APR fuel pump etc...
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo319%2Fmudawana%2FStage2Issue.jpg&hash=041a4e800e8f2d83a35971668639f4e568638459)
I recieved an e-mail from Keith last Monday and he suspects a certain area in the data output as he kindly looked through the data produced over the weekend. I had the car booked in for Thursday and Friday just gone but unfortunately for Keith, his father-in-law passed away and he was not at JKM during those days. The car is booked for next Wednesday and Thursday now and I am hoping the issue is sorted in time for the GTI Spring Festival :sad: The car is also due for VWRacing Race-spec aluminium engine mounts - 3 in all - and top mounts for neg camber on Tuesday at VWR :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: Hopefully, once this issue is sorted, I'll only need suspension polybushes all round, brakes and CF rear hatch, rear spoiler, wings and door mirrors to finish it off - due much later this year when/if my bank account recovers. My thoughts are already moving onto the R32 and 450bhp :evilgrin: :evilgrin: C2 Motorsports are doing a great turbo conversion for around £6k which is much cheaper than HPA... Only problem is that I have to wait until the warranty runs out in 2 years and 6 months before I contemplate that as its my wife's car and I'd have to get her something else as a replacement. Excuse to get a Mk6 GTI in 2012 methinks :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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what a nightmare! :rolleye:
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The only good thing about the problem is that it has got significantly worse since I took it into JKM early this month - acutally, it was late Feb I think - compared to when it was on the dyno a week ago. I'm no mechanical expert, but to me this points maybe to a physical problem somewhere - maybe like a leak - which is getting worse and worse with more pressure applied over time.
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Make sure you keep us updated. Sorry to hear about your problems and they get sorted soon :happy2:
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Make sure you keep us updated. Sorry to hear about your problems and they get sorted soon :happy2:
Are you Kevin from Revo?
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Are you Kevin from Revo?
....Have you not met KRL aka Karl, famous Red Baron of the Luftwaffe?
(https://brhobbies.com/prodimages/GPMQ9110.JPG)
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On a more serious note, would it be a good idea to transfer/copy your problems and the very useful info you are posting, illyun, to a separate topic under Troubleshooting? My thinking is only that it could be a thread for valuable reference.
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I was wondering if it was Karl, but he normally uses 'Karl' as a username, hence my confusion :confused:
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And to add further to any confusion, at Revo it's Carl rather than Karl.
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Make sure you keep us updated. Sorry to hear about your problems and they get sorted soon :happy2:
Are you Kevin from Revo?
No just an interested bystander.
I do agree that it sounds like a HW problem and it is likely you have a leak somewhere. Have you checked the condition of your PCV?
If you have VCDS could you post some logs up? I can advise which blocks to monitot etc if need be.
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Are you Kevin from Revo?
....Have you not met KRL aka Karl, famous Red Baron of the Luftwaffe?
(https://brhobbies.com/prodimages/GPMQ9110.JPG)
:evilgrin:
:signLOL:
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Revo stage 2, tbe and panel filter
Settings were set to B7 T7 F9 by an approved revo dealer ADS in preston
Car made 330bhp 350lbft
Clutch had a little slip after a few k miles with these settings so i spoke to carl at revo and he suggested to set the car at
B6 T5 F9 until the clutch is sorted :smiley:, funny thing is, the car doesnt feel much slower and there is no slip :happy2:.
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I think that Revo assume V-Power is used and tune accordingly.
I'm not saying that Tesco 99 isn't up to it though and I expect that it's the octane which is important.
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Actually, if you speak to Revo, they will tell you that Tesco 99 is their fuel of choice, because it is a lot more stable than V-Power, and that this was particularly apparent during hot weather. When they were developing maps using V-Power, they said they basically had to rewrite the code for every new tank of V-Power, whereas with Tesco 99, they didn't need to.
I would strongly recommend you switch to Tesco 99 - if it is available in your locality.
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Ah well, V-Power is certainly good enough and my loyalties have always been with Shell.
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I think that Revo assume V-Power is used and tune accordingly.
I'm not saying that Tesco 99 isn't up to it though and I expect that it's the octane which is important.
:happy2:
Actually, if you speak to Revo, they will tell you that Tesco 99 is their fuel of choice, because it is a lot more stable than V-Power, and that this was particularly apparent during hot weather. When they were developing maps using V-Power, they said they basically had to rewrite the code for every new tank of V-Power, whereas with Tesco 99, they didn't need to.
I would strongly recommend you switch to Tesco 99 - if it is available in your locality.
Are you sure, I remember the exact opposite.. Tesco 99 is pretty inconsistent, sometimes its great, other times its pretty poor.. V-Power you know what your getting every time..
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Are you sure, I remember the exact opposite.. Tesco 99 is pretty inconsistent, sometimes its great, other times its pretty poor.. V-Power you know what your getting every time..
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Their first recommendation is V-Power, followed by BP Ultimate. They know that some people report good results with Tesco 99 but currently they don't highly rate its consistency. Once upon a time, back in the day, Shell Optimax was inconsistent.
That's from the horse's mouth, Teutonic_Tamer, so I just don't see where you get your info from.
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Tossco fuel has a very high proportion of E85, it gets them a fiddle on the duty thus making more profit. Oh, and its crap.
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Always run shell v power on mine :happy2:
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REVO set my car at 9-6-9 with the full set of engine support mods and V-Power. :happy2:
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9-6-9 must be awesome, mine is at 8-6-9 and is running fast as fook at the minute, even in the hot weather :jumpmove:. Also the car showed no correction factors on these settings after loads of runs on the road with the revo dealer and his logging equipment :driver:
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Tossco fuel has a very high proportion of E85, it gets them a fiddle on the duty thus making more profit. Oh, and its crap.
They use Toluene to boost the figures.. Pretty nasty stuff.. You can really smell it if you use that fuel..
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Tossco fuel has a very high proportion of E85, it gets them a fiddle on the duty thus making more profit. Oh, and its crap.
They use Toluene to boost the figures.. Pretty nasty stuff.. You can really smell it if you use that fuel..
Ahh yes, its Tolly, my mistake - I knew it was something that wasn't really that good for your motor... or living things for that matter, Superduper carcinegenic stuff that - wouldn't want it on my skin :confused:
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Tossco fuel has a very high proportion of E85, it gets them a fiddle on the duty thus making more profit. Oh, and its crap.
They use Toluene to boost the figures.. Pretty nasty stuff.. You can really smell it if you use that fuel..
....Yes, Tesco aka Tossco 99's additives are what Revo mentioned as scoring minus points.
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How do you find out your Revo settings?? I'm guessing you have to go to your Revo dealer...!? My car came with Revo so I have no clue as to what it's actually set at... is it free to check?
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anyone with a laptop and select switch could check it
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i was running at 8 5 9, but taken it to 7 5 9 because of this stupid cel light.
i want more power but dont know what to do about it, not sure if there is maybe something wrong because the RR only showd 305bhp/282lbs, others are well into 300s for torque.. :s
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Are you sure, I remember the exact opposite.. Tesco 99 is pretty inconsistent, sometimes its great, other times its pretty poor.. V-Power you know what your getting every time..
....That's how I know it too and I've just checked with Revo themselves for clarification : -
Their first recommendation is V-Power, followed by BP Ultimate. They know that some people report good results with Tesco 99 but currently they don't highly rate its consistency. Once upon a time, back in the day, Shell Optimax was inconsistent.
That's from the horse's mouth, Teutonic_Tamer, so I just don't see where you get your info from.
I got my info DIRECTLY from Revo, at GTI International - speaking to them face to face. The definately said that Tesco 99 was more stable than V-Power!
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Tossco fuel has a very high proportion of E85, it gets them a fiddle on the duty thus making more profit. Oh, and its crap.
I suggest you actually look and see exactly what 'E85'. Tesco 99 is NOT 'E85'!
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Tossco fuel has a very high proportion of E85, it gets them a fiddle on the duty thus making more profit. Oh, and its crap.
They use Toluene to boost the figures.. Pretty nasty stuff.. You can really smell it if you use that fuel..
Ahh yes, its Tolly, my mistake - I knew it was something that wasn't really that good for your motor... or living things for that matter, Superduper carcinegenic stuff that - wouldn't want it on my skin :confused:
And benzine is 'oh so kind' ????
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Tossco fuel has a very high proportion of E85, it gets them a fiddle on the duty thus making more profit. Oh, and its crap.
I suggest you actually look and see exactly what 'E85'. Tesco 99 is NOT 'E85'!
READ for once. Tesco contains 5% E85 to boost the octane of their regular crap. V-Power doesn't.
Tell me, what am I actually supposed to "look and see"?
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Are you sure, I remember the exact opposite.. Tesco 99 is pretty inconsistent, sometimes its great, other times its pretty poor.. V-Power you know what your getting every time..
....That's how I know it too and I've just checked with Revo themselves for clarification : -
Their first recommendation is V-Power, followed by BP Ultimate. They know that some people report good results with Tesco 99 but currently they don't highly rate its consistency. Once upon a time, back in the day, Shell Optimax was inconsistent.
That's from the horse's mouth, Teutonic_Tamer, so I just don't see where you get your info from.
I got my info DIRECTLY from Revo, at GTI International - speaking to them face to face. The definately said that Tesco 99 was more stable than V-Power!
....Then it appears we have a direct contradiction - You were told face-to-face and I was told on the phone (either Kev or Carl but being back in June I can't remember which). I guess you must have been told by someone at Revo other than Kev or Carl. I'm afraid that this is sometimes how contradictions occur - Neither you or I are to blame.
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I got told face to face with kev when he mapped my car for redline magazine that tesco 99 is not a good as v-power because tesco uses to many additves to make the octane raiting higher. :confused:
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REVO told me to stick to V-Power if possible with my settings - at GTI International when I bumped in to you having yours done Sean :happy2:
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kev also just told me v power abot 10 mins ago
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K04 REVO stage Two
F6 T5 B8
S3 cooler
DP / sports cat
BSH trueseal CAI
360 hp / 360 lbs
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Niceeeee figuressss
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Seat Leon Cupra Stage 2+
B9
T6
F9
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stage 1 - currently - F9 T5 B9 and it feels ridiculously powerful :jumping:
originally set on F7 T5 B9 :happy2:
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stage 1 - currently - F9 T5 B9 and it feels ridiculously powerful :jumping:
originally set on F7 T5 B9 :happy2:
....The 9's are quite 'aggressive' (but safe).
One day when you have £50 spare you should upgrade to Revo Stage2 - Very smooth but good power increase - Very linear.
I really like the fact that the Revo settings can be tweaked. Am planning on an aftermarket high-flow tubular air intake and I can reduce the Boost to avoid potential fuel cuts instead of needing to find an extra zillion squid for an APR fuel pump (no, I don't want the cheaper Autotech pump).
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My ED30
Stage2+
B8 T5 F6
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*sorry to chuck this in the middle of the thread*
I'm thinking I want my revo tweaked - who in the North with Knowledge can change my settings for me - I got mine about 2 yrs ago now it was done at Specialist cars at Malton Ben, who has now left the company did at the time.
I have Select only:
My settings are (according to the notes)
Boost/Throttle response: ?
Timing: 4
Air fuel ratio: 9
And I have always used V-Power :grin:
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the settings you can run should take into account the mds you have as well.
ie, Dp +cat only or TBE, what air intake, intercoolers etc.
it might pay to buy a selct + switch as well.
also is it ed 30 or GTI
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I haven't got any mods just a straight revo (with select switch) ie: stock, anti theft etc - is that what you mean? - I have no software to be able to tweak
I'm DSG GTi
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Speak to Red Robin and see if he can remember what his settings were on when he was stage 1. alternatively REVO carl could help you out.
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Will do with it being DSG I remember asking Ben at specialist cars to put 'chilled out' settings to save the clutches! :o
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Speak to Red Robin and see if he can remember what his settings were on when he was stage 1. alternatively REVO carl could help you out.
....Revo's Carl would be best to ask. I've changed my settings a few times to better accommodate various mods and to adjust Air-Fuel-Ratio etc. I can't reliably remember, sorry.
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yep will do - where can I get the settings changed best place?
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yep will do - where can I get the settings changed best place?
....Easiest is a Revo dealer/agent with a laptop (as you don't have the Select Plus switch). Carl will be able to advise according to your area.
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Or you could pick one from Revo's website.
http://www.revotechnik.com/locateDealer/ukSort.aspx
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lol yea - was kinda looking for northern recommendations as I had chats with Kev a couple of years back and got the low down on a few then :smiley:
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How far north, Dave at ADS Preston is pretty switched on :happy2:
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Bump - maybe this thread should be a sticky?
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Most on stage 1 will be running b6t5f9 or b7t5f9. :happy2:
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OK, today i woke up and thought, wtf.. ill explain..
my revo settings were
B8 T4 F6...
Ok so boost is ok, but T4 and F6, this is where im now confused. looking back at the variables;
Boost
Range 0 Valet Mode
Range 1 Stock Boost
Range 6 Performance Boost
Range 9 Aggressive Boost
Timing Adjustment:
Range 0-3 91(US)/95(Euro) Octane Fuel
Range 4-6 93(US)/98(Euro) Octane Fuel
Range 7-9 Unleaded Race Fuel over 100 Octane
Fuel Adjustment:
Range 0 Stock Air-Fuel Ratio (AFR)
Range 9 Performance Air-Fuel Ratio (AFR)
How does that make sense, surely T should be 6 for 99octane and F should be 9? but 9 is the standard setting?
anyone shed any light
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Hi Steve,
When my ed30 was stage 1, the default settings were b6t5f9.
Mine is stage2+ now and running b8t6f6.
Whilst I haven't seen logs for your car, fuel 6 is reasonable, but t4 seems rather low - your signature doesn't suggest you have an uprated intercooler fitted ?
Mine ran perfectly fine all year round with t5 but with the twintercooler I've been running t6 all year without any timing pull.
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Thanks that was helpful so I'll put f to 6.
Still don't get what they say in that manual.
The manual just doesn't read right to me on fuel.
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7/7/9
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Possibly a dumb question, but haven't found it answered elsewhere. Just got an Ed30 & Revo'd it last week. Looking through this forum, everyone has F9 on a standard fuel pump, "because it can't handle any more", but the SPS manual says 9 is "performance" and 0 is "stock". Seems the wrong way round?! Please can someone explain why F9 is correct? Thanks in advance. Rob.
Fuel Adjustment:
Range 0 Stock Air-Fuel Ratio (AFR)
Range 9 Performance Air-Fuel Ratio (AFR)
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exactly that i have brought up in the past.. dont think i ever got an answer
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Carl from Revo provided the following explanation (thanks Carl!):
"On a stock car with no fueling modifications the fuel setting should always be at 9. 0 is stock as in a stock vehicle, 9 would be used on a vehicle running software without a fuel pump as to stop any potential fuel starvation under heavy loading."
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9b 5t 6f for me!
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9b 5t 6f for me!
b9 in this weather? :-\
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yup S3 cooler with twintercooler is fine steve, i have found no issues at all i run 856/857/956 depending on my mood
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B7 T5 F9 in my edition 30 and feels immense! :happy2:
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0 is stock and 9 is performance for timing and boost for fuel its F9 been lean and F0 been richer. Technically the leaner yo run the more power you will make but heat is a bi product of been too lean.
Mine is set to B7 T6 F7, you need a hpfp to lower the fuel setting because the standard one will not meet requested. It barely makes requested on F9 with an intake and TBE on stage 2.
Boost set to 9 never felt that great to me good shove in the back low down but seemed to tail off at the top. Where as boost 8 and especially 7 just keep pulling and pulling well into the redline.
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B6 T6 F9.
Sometime pulling back timing but I was running a dodgy mix of fuel.
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Am surprised at running t6, that's quite high. Most common settings at stage 1 are either b6t5f9 or b7t5f9.
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Am surprised at running t6, that's quite high. Most common settings at stage 1 are either b6t5f9 or b7t5f9.
and i thought he's a cheapskate and only runs 95 RON stuff! :confused: :signLOL:
I mean I'm running B6 T3 F5 and with V Power all the time...but then it's cos i'm trying to preserve the poor clutch!
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Yes, I hear you - timing = torque, am running mine at T4 currently.
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Am surprised at running t6, that's quite high. Most common settings at stage 1 are either b6t5f9 or b7t5f9.
It was a bit high. Time pull was sometimes a bit high but he said that providing it's run on 98+ I can leave it as it is.
I'm going to run it for a week and then run some logs just to see what's happening. He said the fuel pump was holding up fine and he said it was running 1.3bar boost, is that about right?
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Yes, boost sounds fine Rich - definitely worth doing some logging though to look at correction factors - can do a butt dyno using MAF/.81 to give an estimate of power too.
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Thanks dom will post up any findings/problems.
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I feel a slippery slope coming at you quite quickly now.. :ashamed:
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Yes, boost sounds fine Rich - definitely worth doing some logging though to look at correction factors - can do a butt dyno using MAF/.81 to give an estimate of power too.
Of course you can butt dyno on the fly now Dom :evilgrin:
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I feel a slippery slope coming at you quite quickly now.. :ashamed:
Nah that's it for me... Im not stage 2ing it.
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Just had my ed30 mapped to stage1. No other mods yet. Mine was set to B7 T4 F8 , set up on road not rollers. She goes like a rocket. :happy2:
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Dom... What are acceptable CFs for the timing?
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Bumping this as i still find it very useful thread.
I been seeing some un-burnt fuel coming from the exhaust on hard acceleration, so iv knocked fuel from 6 to 7.
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Dom... What are acceptable CFs for the timing?
No more than -5, I keep one at zero :happy2:
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I'd have said -3 personally. :smiley:
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Hey guys, I know I am bumping this thread from the dead but I feel I have some important information in regards to this topic!
I had my gti mk5 revo'd to stage 1 and found out yesterday from the SPS switch that I was set on Boost:9 Timing:5 Fuel:5 :confused:
Now the car drove well but I had to ask revo directly if these settings where ok.
Revo got back to me and said that these setting where rare for stage 1 and more like stage2+ (with upgraded fuel pump). They said that I could damage the engine and said I should set b7 t5 f9.
I drove home tonight with the new settings but didn't noticed to much of a difference (not sure if it takes a few days for the setting to adapt??) but i can now sleep better knowing my car is running safer. Really not sure why my dealer set the car up in such a way if revo say this is unsafe for stage 1 :surprised:
Any one else have thoughts on this?
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Just quickly my settings are B9T5F9 but I have read this:
Timing Adjustment:
Range 0-3 91(US)/95(Euro) Octane Fuel
Range 4-6 93(US)/98(Euro) Octane Fuel
Range 7-9 Unleaded Race Fuel over 100 Octane
I only use v power nitro+ so does that mean I can bump up the timing from 5 to 7-9 :driver:
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^^ No... 7-9 is what I would call "special application" i.e... race fuel (over 100RON) or WMI.
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So is B9 T5 F9 the best I can go for?
I have:
Revo engine mounts
New Cam follower
REV G Diverter valve
Latest PCV valve
Revo air intake (race)
Iridium spark plugs
Revo stage one