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Title: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: rich83 on June 27, 2011, 08:06:45 pm
Hi all

I had some issues with my standard locking wheel nuts on saturday. Basically they were on really right and i had to get a 1meter bar on it to get them off. This has ended up chewing the locking wheel socket to bits so that now it will only go on with persuasion from a hammer, and then the sockets gets stuck in the bolt.

So.... are McGards the last word in locking wheel nuts? Or should i just get some new OEM ones?


Rich
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: Andy on June 27, 2011, 08:33:00 pm
Get oem ones mate,they won't Nick the wheels just the car :signLOL:
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: bacillus on June 27, 2011, 11:01:45 pm
If getting McGards, get the ultra ones...
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: rich83 on June 27, 2011, 11:05:18 pm
Are these the badgers?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK5-MCGARD-ULTRA-LOCKING-BOLTS-28018SL-/290528626559?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyres_Trim_Nuts_ET&hash=item43a4db077f#ht_2236wt_1141
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: Greeners on June 27, 2011, 11:12:28 pm
I had the same problem a while back and got some new ones from the dealer. These were a much better design than the factory fitted ones and feel much more sturdy!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: MattPoss on June 27, 2011, 11:14:35 pm
Make sure you get them with the right shaped bolt head to suit your wheel Rich (round, tapered e.t.c) :happy2:

Matt
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: rich83 on June 27, 2011, 11:14:49 pm
^^ any pics/info greeners?
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: Greeners on June 27, 2011, 11:23:24 pm
No pics but pretty sure I can dig you out a part number tomorrow......
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: GTiscrupes on June 27, 2011, 11:39:40 pm
I had a similar issue with the OEM locking bolts on my A4 and ended up buying another key from Audi, I went to  order one and was told they had them in stock??? I was surprised to see the guy get a box of around 20 keys and grab one which he handed over and charged £5, " how do you know it'll fit " I asked..... " cos they're all the same throughout the VAG range" he answered!


I promptly went to Halfords and had my eyes out over a set of McGards which i still have fitted to the golf.  I could'nt stand the thought of any Vag owner being able to get my wheels off.
Strangely, I bought another set of McGards in the tapered profile for a different car and the key was the same????

So that just goes to show there is always a chance that some scrote 'could' have the key to fit your locking bolts
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: bacillus on June 27, 2011, 11:46:01 pm
Are these the badgers?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK5-MCGARD-ULTRA-LOCKING-BOLTS-28018SL-/290528626559?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyres_Trim_Nuts_ET&hash=item43a4db077f#ht_2236wt_1141

Yup, those are the ones (I just checked the part number to be sure) I have on my car with the oem monza 2 rims.
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: RedRobin on June 28, 2011, 12:59:50 am
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If you do get McGards, don't let anyone use a wheel gun on them - They can strip/damage the key pattern. It hasn't happened to me but I know of others who've had this problem.
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: Andy on June 28, 2011, 08:24:15 am
I had a similar issue with the OEM locking bolts on my A4 and ended up buying another key from Audi, I went to  order one and was told they had them in stock??? I was surprised to see the guy get a box of around 20 keys and grab one which he handed over and charged £5, " how do you know it'll fit " I asked..... " cos they're all the same throughout the VAG range" he answered!
the set of keys you mention is a master key set of which we have for the scoobys we do at work


I promptly went to Halfords and had my eyes out over a set of McGards which i still have fitted to the golf.  I could'nt stand the thought of any Vag owner being able to get my wheels off.
Strangely, I bought another set of McGards in the tapered profile for a different car and the key was the same????

So that just goes to show there is always a chance that some scrote 'could' have the key to fit your locking bolts

Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: StevenW007 on June 28, 2011, 05:53:46 pm
I had mcguards on the rear of my 25th anniversary along with spacers and then recently transfered them to my edtion 30. I have found that the key design is prone to slipping off the locking wheel bolt which damages the key and over time it renders the key useless. I got a replacement key FOC from Mcguard and bought a spare while I was at it but now both of these are looking a little 'tired' I think the only way to prevent the keys from slipping off is to use a wheel brace to keep it at a right angle (and as such fully seated) when you apply the force to untighten them.

The OEM toothed design is much better in my opinion but then I need longer bolts due to spacers.

Ste
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: vRSAlex on June 28, 2011, 10:08:50 pm
Rather than spend 40 quid on the mcguards, go to sixonetwo (google it) and get their locking bolts.  They are much cheaper and just as good.
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: RedRobin on June 29, 2011, 08:37:54 am

Rather than spend 40 quid on the mcguards, go to sixonetwo (google it) and get their locking bolts.  They are much cheaper and just as good.


....Only about 6 squid cheaper a set (excl shipping) and how are they different apart from the bling finish which would attract extra attention?
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: QD MBE on June 29, 2011, 08:44:09 am
I have had McGards, and the shallow key pattern lends itself to failure, just as it di on my MK4, twice. 

I had to get a stud remover and use it to remove the bolts on each occasion.  OEM now, with no problems in 6 years.
Title: Re: Locking wheels nut woes
Post by: RedRobin on June 29, 2011, 08:58:27 am
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If the shallowness of McGards is a prob, then I would hope that the blingy sixonetwo's are deeper.

I've yet to have a problem with my McGards and I prefer the extra security to only having OEM, security being the sole reason for having aftermarket locking nuts.