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All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Technical Workshop => Topic started by: cossy on March 18, 2009, 08:37:33 am

Title: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: cossy on March 18, 2009, 08:37:33 am: Hi All,

Would an exhaust swop help the old turbo to spin up quicker? :smiley:
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: gazbutS3 on March 18, 2009, 09:07:19 am: yes turbo-back exhaust and a map help a lot :happy2:
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: SteveS on March 18, 2009, 09:15:20 am: do turbo back include a cat?
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: dan.payne on March 18, 2009, 09:32:26 am: Quote from: SteveS on March 18, 2009, 09:15:20 am
do turbo back include a cat?

Yep :smiley: I recommend the Milltek non resonated it sounds awesome! 8)
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: SteveS on March 18, 2009, 09:33:02 am: man, i do want an r32 style.. but cost...
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 18, 2009, 09:54:28 am: Quote from: dan.payne on March 18, 2009, 09:32:26 am
Quote from: SteveS on March 18, 2009, 09:15:20 am
do turbo back include a cat?

Yep :smiley: I recommend the Milltek non resonated it sounds awesome! 8)

dont follow the crowd :grouphug: buy blueflame it sounds :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: CarrG on March 18, 2009, 10:16:33 am: And a High Pressure Fuel Pump. :happy2:
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: jacko78 on March 18, 2009, 12:52:48 pm: i can definately say the blueflame sounds :grin:.i heard matts yesterday and it reminds me of god gargling rocks :signLOL:
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: john_o on March 18, 2009, 01:15:53 pm: Nitrous , little 25bhp shot :driver:

seriously at what rpm does yours kick in?
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: joesgti on March 18, 2009, 04:54:04 pm: Quote from: SteveS on March 18, 2009, 09:33:02 am
man, i do want an r32 style.. but cost...

i got the full milltek R32 tbe for 770, not too bad!! :happy2:
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: SteveS on March 18, 2009, 04:59:17 pm: Really?? from where?
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: cossy on March 18, 2009, 06:39:15 pm: Quote from: john_o on March 18, 2009, 01:15:53 pm
Nitrous , little 25bhp shot :driver:

seriously at what rpm does yours kick in?

Kicks in at around 3750.
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: gazbutS3 on March 18, 2009, 06:43:48 pm: seems late that pal, can't remember exactly where my mapped ED30 used to kick in, but my S3 is earlier than that :happy2:
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: stealthwolf on March 18, 2009, 06:50:43 pm: I can hear mine whining about 3000rpm. Just do what I do and drive in a lower gear. I stay in second gear on slip roads, keeping the revs aroun 4000+rpm and then floor it.

Be careful I keep hitting the rev limiter and not realising till I'm outta acceleration.
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: bacillus on March 18, 2009, 07:26:30 pm: Quote from: stealthwolf on March 18, 2009, 06:50:43 pm
Be careful I keep hitting the rev limiter and not realising till I'm outta acceleration.

Now that wouldn't happen if you had DSG. :smiley:
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: john_o on March 18, 2009, 07:57:38 pm: Quote from: cossy on March 18, 2009, 06:39:15 pm
Quote from: john_o on March 18, 2009, 01:15:53 pm
Nitrous , little 25bhp shot :driver:
seriously at what rpm does yours kick in?
Kicks in at around 3750.

depends on map obv but you should be full boost by 3k rpm imho
mines getting well into its stride even by 2500 rpm
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: stealthwolf on March 18, 2009, 08:06:10 pm: Quote from: bacillus on March 18, 2009, 07:26:30 pm
Now that wouldn't happen if you had DSG. :smiley:

Tell me about it. When you're flooring it on a DC and traffic's coming up fast behind you, you need both hands on the steering wheel. At this moment, DSG paddles would be really handy.
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: gazbutS3 on March 18, 2009, 09:16:49 pm: Quote from: gazbutS3 on March 18, 2009, 06:43:48 pm
seems late that pal, can't remember exactly where my mapped ED30 used to kick in, but my S3 is earlier than that :happy2:

Ok tried it on the way home from work, starts to spool at about 2300rpm and is kicking in well from about 2750rpm, so yours kicks in quite late
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: Hurdy on March 23, 2009, 03:08:06 pm: K03 from 1750rpm and a K04 from 2250rpm, so you're about spot on Gaz :happy2:
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: nick-barnes07 on March 23, 2009, 10:14:01 pm: i had a full blue flame system on my old lcr, the difference was amazing after putting it on, spooled up a hell of a lot quicker and felt a lot more torquey, would highly recommend buying a blue flame system
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: RedRobin on March 24, 2009, 11:39:02 am: Quote from: jacko78 on March 18, 2009, 12:52:48 pm

i can definately say the blueflame sounds :grin:.i heard matts yesterday and it reminds me of god gargling rocks :signLOL:

....I haven't heard a Blueflame on the GTI yet and look forward to doing so. However, "god gargling rocks" sounds a bit rough to me.

A track car sound on the road attracts too much unwanted attention.
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 24, 2009, 11:42:04 am: The Blueflame system is :evilgrin: but its so quiet on the mtr way
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on March 28, 2009, 12:22:33 am: Quote from: CarrG on March 18, 2009, 10:16:33 am
And a High Pressure Fuel Pump. :happy2:
Has anyone got experience of this? Does it make a big difference to torque, and fuel consumption?
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: gazbutS3 on March 28, 2009, 09:04:03 am: had it on my ED30, massive difference in midrange torque no noticeabke difference in fuel consumption unless you use the extra all the time :laugh:
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on March 28, 2009, 10:34:51 am: Quote from: gazbutS3 on March 28, 2009, 09:04:03 am
had it on my ED30, massive difference in midrange torque no noticeabke difference in fuel consumption unless you use the extra all the time :laugh:
What does a high pressure pump exactly do?

Are they difficult to install?

Which ones would you recommend?
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: chungster on March 28, 2009, 02:24:03 pm: Quote from: xxx_mojo_xxx on March 28, 2009, 10:34:51 am
Quote from: gazbutS3 on March 28, 2009, 09:04:03 am
had it on my ED30, massive difference in midrange torque no noticeabke difference in fuel consumption unless you use the extra all the time :laugh:
What does a high pressure pump exactly do?

Are they difficult to install?

Which ones would you recommend?

it allows more fuel to be injected when the standard one runs out of capacity.

so with a tweak to the remap, you can hold boost bit longer and gain more torque / bhp as a result.

but fitting one without a remap is pointless.

and yes, i wouldn't try doing a DIY install on a HPFP.

recommendations? APR / KMD / AWE / Autotech all do HPFP kits. APR's one is a complete fuel pump done at their factory, so costs more.
Title: Re: HOW TO GET ED30 K04 SPINNING UP LOWER DOWN THE REV RANGE.
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on March 30, 2009, 11:18:08 pm: I guess fuel consumption goes out of the window?