MK5 Golf GTI
General => Product Reviews => Topic started by: QD MBE on March 19, 2009, 09:13:42 am
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Mods, I feel this is not a Generic SC/BF question, hence the new topic.
Stokey’s SUPERCHIPS Experience
I have been mulling over the various mapping choices for a while now.
My requirements were to have the car “more driveableâ€Â. By that I mean, more horsepower/torque, but not to alter the delivery too much. I am impressed at the way the GTI Ed 30 delivers the usable torque/power so low down the rev range.
I happened to be passing Superchips HQ, and dropped in. I spoke at great length with Jamie Turvey, toured the building and then handed my keys over to him.
The process of adding Bluefin, took about 30 mins, and then away I went. The drive back was ok, traffic was heavy, the car behaved faultlessly, although I was not happy with the power delivery.
The map I was given was the low power in 1st and 2nd gears, to reduce wheel spin. This has been spoken about on the forums for a while.
Drive home
All was a little vanilla up to 3500-4000 rpm, but then all hell broke loose, lots of torque, and urgency. Not really what I was looking for, the delivery had been changed, and not the low down torque/poke I was after.
I spoke to SC Hq and they were as good as gold, I was to receive another map, which was to be emailed to me the next morning. I was told to upload the BF drivers onto my computer.
That’s where the problem started; I am running a desktop and laptop with vista 64-bit operating system. The Driver is not compatible, I tried running the software in compatibility mode, and that had no effect.
Options
Live with the map, not an option, I don’t drive my car at 99% all the time, and a lot of the power was not accessible until the higher reaches of the rev range. I stress it may suit others, you will have to make your own mind up on that one. What is one mans pain, is another mans pleasure.
Send the BF back to SC to have the new map uploaded, not the versatility I was swayed by at the outset.
Buy a laptop, or retrospectively load XP onto my desktop/Laptop, not an option really, as 64-bit has been out for a while, and an innovative product such as SC BF should be “modernâ€Â.
Send the BF back to SC, and receive a refund.
I decided on the later, and after I had reloaded the stock map their courier collected the boxed handset, and I received a slightly tardy refund today. I suspect that the refund was tardy due to the weekend, and Halifax being a bit useless. Not SC hanging onto my cash at all.
I have spoken to SC and they assure me that they are developing a Driver for 64 bit.
Postscript
Would I use SC/BF again? Most definitely, I think the versatility of the BF is great, and a real plus point for me. Their customer service was second to none. Even when I was having trouble uploading drivers, they gave me some pointers, and work-arounds, but they did not work, and quite frankly I did not want to hack a “modern†product.
The only caveat I would place on that is finding a map that suits my needs, that the driveability of the Ed 30 is not compromised in any way.
I have at the moment gone full circle, I had more horses and a whole load more torque, but the map at the moment (Standard) is far more suited to me.
Some may say that 64-bit is not common, perhaps not, but it is modern software, and is becoming more prevalent, and I think SC should be compatible, and I hope in the future it will be. I should have asked the question when looking to have it fitted. Although I have bought other stuff, and it has all worked on 64-bit.
So a big thank you to SC for trying, and I hope we can do business again soon. I must add that this piece, is not a slating in any way of SC, just highlights a few pitfalls, and I must add, I am not sure I would have had the same assistance post purchase at a Generic map dealer, or the offer of another more suitable map, or even a refund.
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Although I have never used them, I have a lot of trust in SC's customer and aftersales service. The only car I've driven with a SC remap is VWR's 300R and have never had any problem with the way it delivers its power but I think it's a custom map.
However, SC need to get up to speed with their computer compatibility - What about Mac users!!? :fighting:
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VWR car is a custom map that they mess with all the time and it very :evilgrin: when it want to be
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Surprised you havent tried Revo maybe Dave???
Your experiances share those the same as Garethmk1's with his dislike of this map.
Maybe try revo and see if thats any better?. Give Jkm a call if i was you and see what Keith has to say, whether Revo's maps are not as aggressive.
As you say, pointless having all that extra power if it cant be controlled unless you like to drive at different speeds of course. :.But then your in the endless cycle of modifying what already is a great car to start with. ashamed:
I wouldnt mind just getting the downpipe added to mine, will increase the torque but wont upset the cars setup and the way it drives currently.
Nice writeup mate.
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yes Phil but if you add the down pipe then u have to map it to take care of the Lambda sencor next to the hi flow cat
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Why would you need to map it, if you just want a hi flow exhaust ?? will it not be compatible with the lambda sensor?
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Why would you need to map it, if you just want a hi flow exhaust ?? will it not be compatible with the lambda sensor?
it is compatible but the gas going through the cat is going through quicker so is not getting the cat as hot as it was before so will set you emissions light off on your dash
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Be very careful, Phil - It's a very slippery slope!!
I started exactly the same way! : -
1 - Milltek just so I could hear the engine better as a driving aid.
2 - Er....The rest is history and a very loooong story you all already know well.
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been a member of a mk5 gti forum for 2.5 years now, so i have good grip on my shoes Robin :signLOL: :wink:
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First off, good write up. Info like this is always good to read and has actually helped me in my future purchase of a map. I think that i may be in a slight minority on here but i want to feel an old school push (similar to turbo lag) when pushing through the revs. as long as the usual 1k to 3/4k pull is still there i woulddnt mind if i diddnt feel tha map till i was pushing on. Reason: Well as i just ahve the std GTi with a K03, it drops off from 5k onwards meaning you drive it similar to a Diesel and although fast, not exactly challenging or exciting (in some cases) The APR cat back has helped as i am sure the down pipe would, but a map is less reddies and will offer a bigger hit
From what you have described, the BF is a good one for this. Thanks :happy2:
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Personally I prefer a map which delivers its 'oooomph' in mid rather than higher range. In real life in the UK, I want most power and acceleration for overtaking. If I spent most of my time on unrestricted sections of the German autobahns, I would want power further up the range.
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Personally I prefer a map which delivers its 'oooomph' in mid rather than higher range. In real life in the UK, I want most power and acceleration for overtaking. If I spent most of my time on unrestricted sections of the German autobahns, I would want power further up the range.
Game set and match! The SC Bfin map was almost like a 2nd carb coming on-line at 3500-4000 rpm. Not my bag at all. I would be interested to feel a stage 2 revo map, for delivery.
I am of the mind, that the enjoyable part of the Ed 30 is the way it delivers its power, if I had a touch more, i woul;d be very very happy.
The delivery is the important part, rarely will i go above 4500-5000 rpm in everyday driving, hence my not goingf down the Pod at the last meet.
As has been posted, each to their own!
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from what you have described you may wish to try the APR remap too :happy2:
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Personally I prefer a map which delivers its 'oooomph' in mid rather than higher range. In real life in the UK, I want most power and acceleration for overtaking. If I spent most of my time on unrestricted sections of the German autobahns, I would want power further up the range.
Game set and match! The SC Bfin map was almost like a 2nd carb coming on-line at 3500-4000 rpm. Not my bag at all. I would be interested to feel a stage 2 revo map, for delivery.
I am of the mind, that the enjoyable part of the Ed 30 is the way it delivers its power, if I had a touch more, i woul;d be very very happy.
The delivery is the important part, rarely will i go above 4500-5000 rpm in everyday driving, hence my not goingf down the Pod at the last meet.
As has been posted, each to their own!
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Not forgetting they developed this 'version' of the ST2 map after feedback from customers having traction problems during the winter months. The first map may now be better suited to the climatic conditions and your driving style Dave :happy2: I may even look to change back to this version for mine :wink:
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I'm with Red Robin re Superchips and Mac users ! I've been using a Mac for years as my wife is a photographer (and that's all many photographers use) and am amazed now, with so many more people using Macs that so many companies just ignore the fact they exist :(
Regarding the maps Superchips issue I just can't relate my experiences to some of the comments ... mine comes on strongly with the newest DSG map at about 2,800rpm and keeps going to the redline.
The previous 'older' stage 1 followed the existing power curve but with about 15bhp more up to 4,250 rpm then went into a 'Vtec' kind of surge to the red line. The feeling was exactly the same as the RR curves on their site show and I still think I prefer the 'a little more of the same to 4K' followed by a nice increase thereafter to the redline.
I would have thought this was what the original poster was after - more driveable generally with more power but a nice wedge nearer the redline if you need it ... no compromise low down at all; infact more power but not undriveable.
Are the issues people have had only on manual cars ?
I can see the appeal of 'lower' remap power in 1st and 2nd but it seems from what I am reading that this map is just not up to their other excellent efforts .....
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This is interesting. I posted a question recently regarding the Bluefin map on my Ed30 seeming to change after a few hundred miles. I too was looking for the overall 'tractability' and 'driveability' you refer too. Initially the new map was as you describe very much high-end 'oomph' when the turbo started spooling, but I was prepared to live with it for the overtaking power available and the generally improved smoothness. However, after a while the map seemed to change and became much more like the standard Ed30 map - just moreso!! (if that makes sense?).
I have since removed and then reinstalled the map and experienced exactly the same.
So, my advice is that the SC map is actually exactly what you want if you're seeking the same sort of driveability that makes the stock Ed30 so special, but you need to run it for about 500 miles or so before it apparently adapts itself and calms down.
Shaun
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^^^ I agree with Shaun about the map "settling down" after a few hundred miles, and like S08 I find mine smooth and progressive :happy2:
It's good to hear they are developing additional driver support but with all the virtual machine software around it so easy these days to run another operating system on your machine which will support anything your host OS won't/can't. I use Vmware fusion on my Mac Book Pro to run Windows XP my road angel and blackberry apps :smiley:
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Sorry guys just getting around to posting. I've got to be honest, I'm still not happy with my map. Don't get me wrong it's still loaded into the car but I'm just not getting along with it fantastically. As some of you know I bought my SC BF on 5th January and have had ... needless to say quite a few problems. Intially it lit up the ECL and caused three fault DTC's relating to random multiple misfires, misfire cyl 2 and misfire cyl 3 over 6500rpm. Hmmmm .... I expected possibly 3 as it has the longest inlet trace but couldn't understand why 2 was misfiring. Anyway, superchips sent out a revised map that stopped. I then got frustrated with the poor acceleration in 1st and 2nd which was and still is slower than standard, this can be proved by poor santa pod times (all jokes aside about poor launches !! my reaction times were .63 !) couldn't crack less than 15 sec (albeit with a coolbox, all detailing products, a duvet, 3 pillows and a boot full of food and drink !!). I rang superchips and they sent the old 270bhp map out to me. The map was amusing, but I then missed the shove over 3500rpm. If I could combine the feel of the 270bhp map low down with the post 3500rpm shove of the full power map I'd be happy. So ... anyhow ... I switched back to the full power map and as another member has commented lived with it for the overtaking performance. Then my clutch started to slip. They then produced a custom map but the clutch still slipped. Took the car back to VW as reset to standard and they failed to find a slipping clutch - surprise surprise ! It won't slip as standard. I left the car standard for a week and started to enjoy the standard map again, 1st and especially second gear. After a while went back to superchips and asked for the full power map, and touch wood, the clutch hasn't slipped since. However I am still frustrated with the performance in 1st and 2nd. When I remapped I was under the impression that the way power was delivered would not change and that there would just be more "everywhere", unfortunately not the case so I remain unhappy. The way the car delivers power is tremendous after 3500rpm in 3rd but by which time you are well into licence losing terratory. Just not happy - need to phone SC again and see what they can do but feel the only resolution to the issue would be to attend at SC and get them to set the remap up "properly" on the rollers. Just finding the time to do so :sad:
I must say though my ED30 has done 15k in 10 months of ownership and for the time being is my daily driver (until my Mk1 is ready hopefully by May) and still delivers 35+mpg on my daily 50 mile round trip commute, excellent for a car with that level of performance.
I don't want the post to read negatively towards Superchips as I have received excellent customer service from them. I mean I have had outstanding levels of service for them and have even emailed their MD commending the service given by technical support. I just need to get the matter sorted once and for all. I was quite annoyed after Santa Pod - standard ED30's were doing better times ??? Just don't know what to do, obviously appreciate there are people out there with BF ED30's albeit stage 2 that were doing excellent times at the pod, both DSG's and manuals, to note my car is totally stock bar remap .... so ... dunno what to do. I bought the ED30 as I was so impressed with the driveability and tractability of the power. Just to note I recall the TC light flashing in 2nd in wet and dry as standard, I have not seen it illuminated since the remap (other than 4th gear dual carriageway in wet conditions)
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Just gonna have to go up there and get it sorted once and for all,
Regards,
Gareth
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This is interesting. I posted a question recently regarding the Bluefin map on my Ed30 seeming to change after a few hundred miles. I too was looking for the overall 'tractability' and 'driveability' you refer too. Initially the new map was as you describe very much high-end 'oomph' when the turbo started spooling, but I was prepared to live with it for the overtaking power available and the generally improved smoothness. However, after a while the map seemed to change and became much more like the standard Ed30 map - just moreso!! (if that makes sense?).
I have since removed and then reinstalled the map and experienced exactly the same.
So, my advice is that the SC map is actually exactly what you want if you're seeking the same sort of driveability that makes the stock Ed30 so special, but you need to run it for about 500 miles or so before it apparently adapts itself and calms down.
Shaun
^^^ I agree with Shaun about the map "settling down" after a few hundred miles, and like S08 I find mine smooth and progressive :happy2:
It's good to hear they are developing additional driver support but with all the virtual machine software around it so easy these days to run another operating system on your machine which will support anything your host OS won't/can't. I use Vmware fusion on my Mac Book Pro to run Windows XP my road angel and blackberry apps :smiley:
I had the map on for about 500 miles, and if anything it was getting worse.
Sorry guys just getting around to posting. I've got to be honest, I'm still not happy with my map. Don't get me wrong it's still loaded into the car but I'm just not getting along with it fantastically. As some of you know I bought my SC BF on 5th January and have had ... needless to say quite a few problems. Intially it lit up the ECL and caused three fault DTC's relating to random multiple misfires, misfire cyl 2 and misfire cyl 3 over 6500rpm. Hmmmm .... I expected possibly 3 as it has the longest inlet trace but couldn't understand why 2 was misfiring. Anyway, superchips sent out a revised map that stopped. I then got frustrated with the poor acceleration in 1st and 2nd which was and still is slower than standard, this can be proved by poor santa pod times (all jokes aside about poor launches !! my reaction times were .63 !) couldn't crack less than 15 sec (albeit with a coolbox, all detailing products, a duvet, 3 pillows and a boot full of food and drink !!). I rang superchips and they sent the old 270bhp map out to me. The map was amusing, but I then missed the shove over 3500rpm. If I could combine the feel of the 270bhp map low down with the post 3500rpm shove of the full power map I'd be happy. So ... anyhow ... I switched back to the full power map and as another member has commented lived with it for the overtaking performance. Then my clutch started to slip. They then produced a custom map but the clutch still slipped. Took the car back to VW as reset to standard and they failed to find a slipping clutch - surprise surprise ! It won't slip as standard. I left the car standard for a week and started to enjoy the standard map again, 1st and especially second gear. After a while went back to superchips and asked for the full power map, and touch wood, the clutch hasn't slipped since. However I am still frustrated with the performance in 1st and 2nd. When I remapped I was under the impression that the way power was delivered would not change and that there would just be more "everywhere", unfortunately not the case so I remain unhappy. The way the car delivers power is tremendous after 3500rpm in 3rd but by which time you are well into licence losing terratory. Just not happy - need to phone SC again and see what they can do but feel the only resolution to the issue would be to attend at SC and get them to set the remap up "properly" on the rollers. Just finding the time to do so :sad:
I must say though my ED30 has done 15k in 10 months of ownership and for the time being is my daily driver (until my Mk1 is ready hopefully by May) and still delivers 35+mpg on my daily 50 mile round trip commute, excellent for a car with that level of performance.
I don't want the post to read negatively towards Superchips as I have received excellent customer service from them. I mean I have had outstanding levels of service for them and have even emailed their MD commending the service given by technical support. I just need to get the matter sorted once and for all. I was quite annoyed after Santa Pod - standard ED30's were doing better times ??? Just don't know what to do, obviously appreciate there are people out there with BF ED30's albeit stage 2 that were doing excellent times at the pod, both DSG's and manuals, to note my car is totally stock bar remap .... so ... dunno what to do. I bought the ED30 as I was so impressed with the driveability and tractability of the power. Just to note I recall the TC light flashing in 2nd in wet and dry as standard, I have not seen it illuminated since the remap (other than 4th gear dual carriageway in wet conditions)
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Just gonna have to go up there and get it sorted once and for all,
Regards,
Gareth
I can feel your angst Gareth. It sounds like I had the same map, a bit of a wet weekend in 1 and 2, and then post 3500 rpm in and above 3500 rpm in every other gear (4,5,6) all hell brokle loose.
I can see why youir clutch slipped, I had the exactly same thoughts when the power was in, so much so, I found myself backing off.
Perhaps with your experiences in mind, SC BF is not for me.
Good luck in getting it sorted. I am really starting to think, I may nor remap at all. The Ed30 power is delivered in a fantastic way as standard, just could do with a little more.
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It's good to hear they are developing additional driver support but with all the virtual machine software around it so easy these days to run another operating system on your machine which will support anything your host OS won't/can't. I use Vmware fusion on my Mac Book Pro to run Windows XP my road angel and blackberry apps :smiley:
But why should you have to? Vista 64 Bit has been about for over 3 years now.
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It's good to hear they are developing additional driver support but with all the virtual machine software around it so easy these days to run another operating system on your machine which will support anything your host OS won't/can't. I use Vmware fusion on my Mac Book Pro to run Windows XP my road angel and blackberry apps :smiley:
But why should you have to? Vista 64 Bit has been about for over 3 years now.
yeh but theres only 4 people in the country with it :signLOL: sorry
Its good to hear different points of view on Bluefin , im still liking mine and dont have any problems with the power delivery 8)
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It's good to hear they are developing additional driver support but with all the virtual machine software around it so easy these days to run another operating system on your machine which will support anything your host OS won't/can't. I use Vmware fusion on my Mac Book Pro to run Windows XP my road angel and blackberry apps :smiley:
But why should you have to? Vista 64 Bit has been about for over 3 years now.
yeh but theres only 4 people in the country with it :signLOL: sorry
Its good to hear different points of view on Bluefin , im still liking mine and dont have any problems with the power delivery 8)
oh really! :signLOL: :signLOL:
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^^^ While I agree it been out a long time and does have a larger installed base than 4 people :laugh: it isn't a widely used OS and SC are just one of many thousands of companies who hardware devices aren't directly supported on it :happy2:
It would certainly make my life easier if everything worked on every possible OS and hardware combination :wink:
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Maybe I will stay standard. Good read Illyun, I hope you get sorted.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3133.msg48237#msg48237 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3133.msg48237#msg48237)
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Exemplary attitude from you, illyun - Most people would be throwing their toys out of their pram instead of being realistic.
I have to say that if anyone can get to the bottom of the problem, Keith of JKM can.
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good luck illyan, all this sounds pretty major and needs to be found out incase this effect most/all stage 2+ revo cars. Last thing you need is a major engine failure if left unchecked.
Fingers crossed for you mate :happy2:.
Youve got the best bloke on the job like Robin has said.
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Maybe I will stay standard.
....Probably a wise decision, at least until Ed30 issues are solved and settled.
In practice on UK roads, 230 neddies on the Golf gives a very good drive and the K04 is hardly irritatingly slow in the lower rev range!
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Maybe I will stay standard. Good read Illyun, I hope you get sorted.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3133.msg48237#msg48237 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3133.msg48237#msg48237)
Were not all having problems Dave. :wink:
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Phoned up SC's today and again spoke to Michael - he's made me another custom map - and now WAW ! What a difference, acceleration is much much much better in the lower gears but this time not at a cost of top end performance - FANTASTIC !!! GOT THERE IN THE END. Traction control light now blinking away like a good 'un ! Noise is much much much different now too - don't know what they've done but it is a great deal better - gutted now not going to the pod on Sunday to give it another go !!
Regards to all,
Gareth
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nice one gareth :happy2: good to hear.
out of interest hows your clutch ? Im in a perpetual state of will it / wont it fail these days... :surprised:
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Phoned up SC's today and again spoke to Michael - he's made me another custom map - and now WAW ! What a difference, acceleration is much much much better in the lower gears but this time not at a cost of top end performance - FANTASTIC !!! GOT THERE IN THE END. Traction control light now blinking away like a good 'un ! Noise is much much much different now too - don't know what they've done but it is a great deal better - gutted now not going to the pod on Sunday to give it another go !!
Regards to all,
Gareth
Nice to hear, glad you happy. :wink:
It would be nice to see a rolling road printout of your car to see what they have done.
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That's great news, Gareth. As a fellow Ed30 evangelist I've really been feeling for you over the problems you've been experiencing with SC.
As ever, though, it does sound like you're yet another customer who can vouch for their exemplary customer service. I hope I never have to take advantage of it (now that my Bluefin map seems to have settled down I'm really happy with it) but it's good to know you can rely on them when necessary.
Hope your clutch holds up now!
Cheers,
Shaun
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Phoned up SC's today and again spoke to Michael - he's made me another custom map - and now WAW ! What a difference, acceleration is much much much better in the lower gears but this time not at a cost of top end performance - FANTASTIC !!! GOT THERE IN THE END. Traction control light now blinking away like a good 'un ! Noise is much much much different now too - don't know what they've done but it is a great deal better - gutted now not going to the pod on Sunday to give it another go !!
Regards to all,
Gareth
hmm, wonder if they can send me a copy :grin:
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Slipping in 4th now lol !! I'm just gonna wait until it's really slipping like a slippy thing in slippysville ( lol!) and get it replaced under warranty !
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Phoned up SC's today and again spoke to Michael - he's made me another custom map - and now WAW ! What a difference, acceleration is much much much better in the lower gears but this time not at a cost of top end performance - FANTASTIC !!! GOT THERE IN THE END. Traction control light now blinking away like a good 'un ! Noise is much much much different now too - don't know what they've done but it is a great deal better - gutted now not going to the pod on Sunday to give it another go !!
Regards to all,
Gareth
Nice to hear, glad you happy. :wink:
It would be nice to see a rolling road printout of your car to see what they have done.
I agree - will be attending at SC's HQ in April.
Phoned up SC's today and again spoke to Michael - he's made me another custom map - and now WAW ! What a difference, acceleration is much much much better in the lower gears but this time not at a cost of top end performance - FANTASTIC !!! GOT THERE IN THE END. Traction control light now blinking away like a good 'un ! Noise is much much much different now too - don't know what they've done but it is a great deal better - gutted now not going to the pod on Sunday to give it another go !!
Regards to all,
Gareth
hmm, wonder if they can send me a copy :grin:
Blue, if you like I can give you my Bluefin serial / handset number and you can ask for the same map if you like,
The entire noise of the car has changed, the turbo spool and noise is MUCH more audible plus all the ound of dumpin, sucking (oh err.. !) and other associated noises - sounds as if it'll suck pedastrians off the street and into the K04 now lol !!!
:laugh: :happy2: :laugh: :happy2:
Regards
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Do you have to pay for these new maps? I bought bluefin about a week ago and just installed the first map that was sent to me assuming that was the best??
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Do you have to pay for these new maps? I bought bluefin about a week ago and just installed the first map that was sent to me assuming that was the best??
they do this free usually :happy2:
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Phoned up SC's today and again spoke to Michael - he's made me another custom map - and now WAW ! What a difference, acceleration is much much much better in the lower gears but this time not at a cost of top end performance - FANTASTIC !!! GOT THERE IN THE END. Traction control light now blinking away like a good 'un ! Noise is much much much different now too - don't know what they've done but it is a great deal better - gutted now not going to the pod on Sunday to give it another go !!
Regards to all,
Gareth
Nice to hear, glad you happy. :wink:
It would be nice to see a rolling road printout of your car to see what they have done.
I agree - will be attending at SC's HQ in April.
Phoned up SC's today and again spoke to Michael - he's made me another custom map - and now WAW ! What a difference, acceleration is much much much better in the lower gears but this time not at a cost of top end performance - FANTASTIC !!! GOT THERE IN THE END. Traction control light now blinking away like a good 'un ! Noise is much much much different now too - don't know what they've done but it is a great deal better - gutted now not going to the pod on Sunday to give it another go !!
Regards to all,
Gareth
hmm, wonder if they can send me a copy :grin:
Blue, if you like I can give you my Bluefin serial / handset number and you can ask for the same map if you like,
The entire noise of the car has changed, the turbo spool and noise is MUCH more audible plus all the ound of dumpin, sucking (oh err.. !) and other associated noises - sounds as if it'll suck pedastrians off the street and into the K04 now lol !!!
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Regards
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yeh, pm it me and i may give it a go, did they mention what power this is ?
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No they didn't but I did say that I'd had their so called "270bhp" original map and that it lacked the torque of the full fat map. Michael assured me he could easily "sort this" for me on a custom map.
My handset is in the boot - just gonna pop home will get it and post it here for anyone else who's interested gimme 5 mins ...
STAND BY !
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Bluefin Serial :- 03726
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Nice one, might pop them an email, do you have Michaels email also ?
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No sorry not for Michael, just ask for Michael in Technical Support,
Regards,
Gareth