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Title: Puddle lights
Post by: stealthwolf on March 20, 2009, 07:23:47 am
Does anyone have these installed?

Would appreciate pics of the effect + of the unit.

Anyone installed it themselves?

Looking into it but don't know if it's feasible.
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: no golf clubs at all on March 20, 2009, 07:39:01 am
Not worth it mate, low level yellow lights that barely light up the errr puddles.
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: QD MBE on March 20, 2009, 08:19:02 am
The VWR Golf has them fitted, and I think they do a good job.  I started to look into retro fitting them, but didnt get too far due to work taking over again.

Would be very interested in sorting this.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: Greeners on March 20, 2009, 08:21:39 am
Flora has them on my old car and I for one think there great  :happy2: The bulbs should be easy enough to upgrade.
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: markymark on March 20, 2009, 08:52:41 am
Definately well worth having, they do light up the floor better than I thought they would and with an LED bulb upgrade would be fantastic! :happy2:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: 182_blue on March 20, 2009, 09:28:23 am
theres another thread somewhere about this, iirc the parts alone are over £400, then you need some wiring and programing, its something i would like, but not worth that hassle unless someone has a simple way of doing it
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: 182_blue on March 20, 2009, 09:30:49 am
this is another idea

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb155%2Frobinyau%2Fpuddle12.jpg&hash=5f46c04bc51550986ddf7688012886029250c3e0)
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: tony_danza on March 20, 2009, 10:14:32 am
^^ deffo easier. Tap into the wiring on the red light and dot in some LEDs along the bottom of the door panel.

I've got the puddle lights, they're ok I suppose but need a bulb upgrade for sure - and I just can't be bothered taking them apart.
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: Merlinman on March 20, 2009, 11:56:31 am
I've upgraded the bulbs in mine with 'Xenon' white sidelight bulbs - easy and worthwhile improvement  :happy2:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: RedRobin on March 20, 2009, 12:08:26 pm
....

Are we talking about the 'downlighters' in the base of the wing mirrors?

My 06-build GTI has them already. My dealer friend used his VAS to extend their "On" time for me. Very useful for me to see that I don't accidentally damage my car with my ramps in the dark.

How easy is it to change the bulbs to LED's?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FRampsinGarage.jpg&hash=2358a46cbe1bc85eab05b501b68e418fd40f4701)
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: VC on March 20, 2009, 03:14:24 pm
running them under the door rather than the wing mirrors means they would only be 50% effective. puddle lights by their definition are designed to light the area outside the car.

Being on the mirrors, coming to the car or getting out of, the lights flood the ground. if they were under the doors then they would only be effective when you get out of the car and not as you approach it to get in.

for that reason it would be OEM mirrors with LED's or nuthin for me  :innocent:

when i ordered my car i decided i wouldn't need them, now i want them because i haven't got them. In a year or so I will be selling the mrs's EOS and that has got them, wing mirror swap and all's good  :happy2:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: stealthwolf on March 20, 2009, 03:57:00 pm
VC mate, could you please grab some pics of the lights? Would like an idea of what they're like.

Might buy some second hand door mirrors and do a bodge job.
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: VC on March 20, 2009, 04:08:29 pm
course i will mate, watch this space  :happy2:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: VC on March 20, 2009, 04:16:59 pm
scuse the dirt, she's just done a 600 mile trip in it and i've not had the chance to give it a scrub  :ashamed:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Faa104%2FverycherryR32%2FEOSpuddlelight.jpg&hash=54eb32c2e761739f460330531a7feb45bde99f93)
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: stealthwolf on March 20, 2009, 04:18:52 pm
Fantastic mate! Requested and twenty minutes later, a perfect pic taken, uploaded and linked.

Hmmm....looks like something I can bodge to mate it work. Might do this over the bank holiday weekend.
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: pitch3110 on March 20, 2009, 05:37:42 pm
got 'em & lov 'em, will forward some nite time pic's
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: Altered Carbon on March 20, 2009, 08:56:19 pm
Here's a pic of mine with the puddle lights on:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FThe_Gza%2FGolf_GTI_Edition_30%2F83fee9d1.jpg&hash=454f8afb9f60d9bf6cd844a2a352f5460f3432cf)

Long exposure so they look brighter that they are normally.

HTH!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: hufcforpromotion on March 21, 2009, 06:47:47 pm
Here are some cheap retro fit ones on e-bay:-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vw-Golf-Mk5-Genuine-Auto-Folding-Mirrors-With-Swich_W0QQitemZ260381116155QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item260381116155&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vw-Golf-Mk5-Genuine-Auto-Folding-Mirrors-With-Swich_W0QQitemZ260381116155QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item260381116155&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: candy turbo on March 22, 2009, 08:02:13 pm
i ve got puddle lights and think they are great, not only do they look good they are very welcoming as you approch the car . any one who has nt got them would be well pleased if they done them as a mod  :smiley:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: mortygttdi on March 22, 2009, 08:16:41 pm
Been looking at doing this myself but think the ones on the Skoda Superb are better...and they are LED's aswell.  I think you could easily retrofit these in the golf cos the wing mirror on both cars are the same, its just the base plate that is different.

Darren
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: VC on March 23, 2009, 10:35:22 am
After looking under my wing mirror there is the plastic cap that covers where a puddle light would be, surely there would be a way of just utilising this and buying only the necessary parts rather than spending upwards of £200 for the privaledge of having these?
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: 182_blue on March 23, 2009, 11:16:39 am
After looking under my wing mirror there is the plastic cap that covers where a puddle light would be, surely there would be a way of just utilising this and buying only the necessary parts rather than spending upwards of £200 for the privaledge of having these?
pictures please LOL, I'm sure when I looked the part was solid
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: RedRobin on March 23, 2009, 11:19:49 am
....

Perhaps I'm talking at cross purposes, but my VW dealer says it's easy to swop bulbs to LED on the Mk5 GTI/Ed30 - You just swing the mirror tops forward and reveal access to the bulbs.

HTH :smiley:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: mortygttdi on March 23, 2009, 11:19:56 am
There is space in the mirror to more or less put a street lamp :grin: seriously you could buy some thing like a small vanity light like in the sun visor ones and put that under the wing mirror and buy a LED for that you would just need to retro fit all that then. Ive got a spare wing mirror and vanity lights from when I changed my roof lining and all the vanity lights I will have a go and see what happens.

Darren
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: cmdrfire on March 23, 2009, 11:35:38 am
These numbers are for a US spec car but if you go with them to your VW dealer he can get the appropriate UK variants.

1K1 857 507 BT 9B9 - Driver's Mirror, power, heated, puddle lights (2005.5 Jetta)
1K1 857 508 BR 9B9 - Passenger's Mirror, power, heated, puddle lights (2005.5 Jetta)

They come with harness IIRC and all version door controllers can use them, just need to change the setting in VCDS.
If you want door card lights you will require:

(2) 1K0 947 411 A - Door Entry Light
(2) 1J0 971 972 - 2-Pin Connector
(1) 000 979 019 – Wire Set
(1) 000 979 018 – Wire Set (one wire is enough for two doors)

Again IIRC these can be used without a new door controller being required.
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: VC on March 23, 2009, 01:26:56 pm
thats more like it, someone else can be the guinea pig though i've got enough on my plate  :P
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: cmdrfire on March 23, 2009, 02:22:59 pm
I'd have done this already if my car wasn't in a perpetual state of breakdown/running repairs.
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: gtipirelli on March 28, 2009, 08:46:08 pm
I have the puddle lights built into the underside of the wing mirror. They seem to stay on as long as the coming/leaving home light function and you can alter the time that the lights stay on through the computer.
Very impressed as it is the sort of thing you only expect on hihg end exec cars.

Do you know if these were std on the Pirelli

Thanks
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: 182_blue on March 28, 2009, 08:49:21 pm
I have the puddle lights built into the underside of the wing mirror. They seem to stay on as long as the coming/leaving home light function and you can alter the time that the lights stay on through the computer.
Very impressed as it is the sort of thing you only expect on hihg end exec cars.

Do you know if these were std on the Pirelli

Thanks

not standard
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: golfman on June 06, 2009, 04:25:22 pm
I have just successfully had electric folding heated wing mirrors with puddle lights fitted by my m8 @ vw,the only thing that needed changing where the window/door regulators and obviously the mirrors themselves,there was also an extra wiring loom on the back of each of the mirrors that my m8 thinks might be for auto dimming mirrors :wink:
no coding needed just a straight plug and play :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :jumpmove:
These are parts i used with my original wiring already on my 2006 golf gt tdi
Regulators are drivers 1K0 959 701L passengers 1K0 959 702G window switch 3C8 959 565A XSH not sure about the mirrors :confused:
I take no responsibility for anyone attempting this with the part numbers i have given,these are the part numbers that worked for my golf however these may not work on your car,please ask your local vw parts for the right part numbers for your car please :happy2:
cheers golfman

Ps i would also like to thank steveP for finding them on ebay :happy2:
and also darren for all his help with the part number of door switch  :happy2:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: Jules86 on June 06, 2009, 08:12:47 pm
Costs? VW quotes about £700 iirc including labour!
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: golfman on June 06, 2009, 10:42:25 pm
Cost £200 for the parts and £30 for my m8 :happy2:
some pictures
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo45%2Fscotty-boy_2006%2FElectricwingmirrors3.jpg&hash=1d4ddd9854f71a6e19900fae6a922f2b8cfa5755)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo45%2Fscotty-boy_2006%2Felectricwingmirrors4.jpg&hash=27cff22144315862a15876fb4813cb00f7fcf3fe)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo45%2Fscotty-boy_2006%2Fwingmirrorswitch1.jpg&hash=c98f71fa93e03325e4f77dd534d8e097284270eb)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo45%2Fscotty-boy_2006%2Fwingmirrorswitch2.jpg&hash=2fd0e7558b0e0ede33ac8a383878a7aa8794accb)
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: 182_blue on June 07, 2009, 07:54:41 am
^^do they also dip when you reverse ?
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: golfman on June 07, 2009, 08:38:53 am
^^do they also dip when you reverse ?
No they dont which sucks bigtime :sad:
wish there was a way of doing so :sad:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: SteveP on June 07, 2009, 09:00:19 am
All folding mirrors have that functionality IIRC  :confused:

You need to make sure the mirror switch is left or right mirror adjust setting (can't remember which) for it to work  :happy2:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: golfman on June 07, 2009, 09:04:09 am
All folding mirrors have that functionality IIRC  :confused:

You need to make sure the mirror switch is left or right mirror adjust setting (can't remember which) for it to work  :happy2:
Dont they need to be new built from the factory,or have memory seats or something like that :confused:
will go and try it and see if it works now :happy2:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: SteveP on June 07, 2009, 09:05:31 am
Nope mine has the standard seats (no electric/memory) and just the folding mirror option and the reverse dipping works  :happy2:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: golfman on June 07, 2009, 09:11:04 am
Just tried it steve and it doesnt work when in reverse and in either L or R :sad:
is there not also something about having factory fitted reverse parking sensors :confused:
unless someone knows of changing the coding or something,u have it without memory seats which now makes me think there has to be a way :confused:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: 182_blue on June 07, 2009, 09:50:15 am
Just tried it steve and it doesnt work when in reverse and in either L or R :sad:
is there not also something about having factory fitted reverse parking sensors :confused:
unless someone knows of changing the coding or something,u have it without memory seats which now makes me think there has to be a way :confused:

i think it may need programming via vag com
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: SteveP on June 07, 2009, 09:51:58 am
^^^ Agreed  :happy2:

Let me know if you want me to check my coding Golfman  :smiley:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: golfman on June 07, 2009, 09:57:51 am
^^^ Agreed  :happy2:

Let me know if you want me to check my coding Golfman  :smiley:
that would be great steve if you could i dont have vag com but i know someone who has so i could try it with his (vag com) :happy2:
do you have factory fitted reverse parking sensors?
cheers golfman :happy2:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: SteveP on June 07, 2009, 09:58:39 am
Yes I have factory sectors  :happy2:

Once it stops raining I will see what I can find on mine   :fighting2:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: 182_blue on June 07, 2009, 09:59:43 am
^^^ Agreed  :happy2:

Let me know if you want me to check my coding Golfman  :smiley:
that would be great steve if you could i dont have vag com but i know someone who has so i could try it with his (vag com) :happy2:
do you have factory fitted reverse parking sensors?
cheers golfman :happy2:

you dont need sensors for reverse dip
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: golfman on June 07, 2009, 10:07:33 am
^^^ Agreed  :happy2:

Let me know if you want me to check my coding Golfman  :smiley:
that would be great steve if you could i dont have vag com but i know someone who has so i could try it with his (vag com) :happy2:
do you have factory fitted reverse parking sensors?
cheers golfman :happy2:

you dont need sensors for reverse dip
hope your right 182_blue that would be great if it was just a bit of coding needed :happy2:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: 182_blue on June 07, 2009, 10:26:14 am
^^^ Agreed  :happy2:

Let me know if you want me to check my coding Golfman  :smiley:
that would be great steve if you could i dont have vag com but i know someone who has so i could try it with his (vag com) :happy2:
do you have factory fitted reverse parking sensors?
cheers golfman :happy2:

you dont need sensors for reverse dip
hope your right 182_blue that would be great if it was just a bit of coding needed :happy2:

i know of people without parking sensors that have reverse dip, that said not sure what other hardware is needed, i do know that reverse dip can be enabled via vag com, and as you havnt done any programming hopefully this is your problem
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: no golf clubs at all on June 07, 2009, 11:37:34 am
no reverse dip on mine, MY06 (Sept 05).
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: 182_blue on June 07, 2009, 11:43:21 am
no reverse dip on mine, MY06 (Sept 05).
do yours fold ?
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: mortygttdi on June 07, 2009, 01:23:46 pm
VCDS is needed to activate the fold down reverse function Scott if steve checks that its ticked out on his I think its in the convenience module?  if its ticked on Steves then you should be able to get it to work.

Darren
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: golfman on June 07, 2009, 02:21:41 pm
VCDS is needed to activate the fold down reverse function Scott if steve checks that its ticked out on his I think its in the convenience module?  if its ticked on Steves then you should be able to get it to work.

Darren
Darren my car never had the highline before and im sure my convenience module only has 19 numbers long as other cars that come with the highline have about 23 i think,but i dont know if that matters or not :confused:
scott.
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: 182_blue on June 07, 2009, 02:58:38 pm
VCDS is needed to activate the fold down reverse function Scott if steve checks that its ticked out on his I think its in the convenience module?  if its ticked on Steves then you should be able to get it to work.

Darren
Darren my car never had the highline before and im sure my convenience module only has 19 numbers long as other cars that come with the highline have about 23 i think,but i dont know if that matters or not :confused:
scott.

only one way to tell is get it looked at, where are you ?
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: golfman on June 07, 2009, 03:14:33 pm
VCDS is needed to activate the fold down reverse function Scott if steve checks that its ticked out on his I think its in the convenience module?  if its ticked on Steves then you should be able to get it to work.

Darren
Darren my car never had the highline before and im sure my convenience module only has 19 numbers long as other cars that come with the highline have about 23 i think,but i dont know if that matters or not :confused:
scott.

only one way to tell is get it looked at, where are you ?
Probably miles away(dundee scotland) :wink:
if steve can show me the vag com way to do it i can go and see my mate and try it?unless someone else is close by :confused:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: no golf clubs at all on June 07, 2009, 08:44:00 pm
yep highline and they fold. No dip. Think they may have came in later than mine....,
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: golfman on June 10, 2009, 10:14:11 pm
Nope doesnt work used vag com ticked the mirror dip box but it never worked :sad:
oh well at least i now know :surprised:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: neg on June 10, 2009, 11:09:45 pm
I had foldy auto dimming mirrors with puddle lights on my 05 but they didnt dip - also had reversing sensors as standard...

just to throw that one into the mix  :grin:
Title: Re: Puddle lights
Post by: no golf clubs at all on June 11, 2009, 06:28:11 am
No not on MY05 or MY06 (mine is a September 05 (55) my06).....

Or does anyone with these model years actually have the dip function?