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All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: robin_nerf on July 08, 2011, 10:18:59 am

Title: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: robin_nerf on July 08, 2011, 10:18:59 am
Hello everyone.

I'v read many post from this forum by searching on google so i try to make a question here even if i'm not a Golf owner.

I have a new (2011) Seat Leon Cupra R 2.0T and are looking for a new CAI.
I'm intressted in Forge Twintake or Maxogen ITG, but i cant decide which.
Is ITG to noisy or is Twintake to quiet ?
(I'm going to install a new Forge DV and a blow off at the same time as installing the new CAI).


Best regards / Robin from Sweden.
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: bacillus on July 08, 2011, 03:33:15 pm
I'm intressted in Forge Twintake or Maxogen ITG, but i cant decide which.
Is ITG to noisy or is Twintake to quiet ?

Both intakes can be noisey depending on how you operate the acclerator pedal.  :evilgrin:

Overall the itg is louder than the twintake.
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: Fizgti on July 08, 2011, 10:19:56 pm
I like the itg it gives you better power n noise
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: chungster on July 08, 2011, 10:32:59 pm
Having heard SteveP's ITG at Bedford...I would say they're both the same on noise level.

Unless you get their latest closed filter system (being tested on a couple of cars at the mo I think)...it's quieter I'm led to believe!
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: robin_nerf on July 09, 2011, 09:36:20 pm
I order a Forge Twintake, Blow Off Adaption Spacer and Vacuum Operated Valve yesterday, i hope that i will me satisfied with this :)
Since i have 320hp now and are planned to have about 350+ i order the Forge Valve since i have read that it is stronger then the stock and i like that blow off noise so order aswell a spacer for that ;)
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: baldwined30 on July 10, 2011, 12:35:18 pm
Just fitted a twintake. Its not too bad but then i dont want a screamer of a car! you can hear it sucking more with the windows closed! as for power, not sure but it seems to pull harder with it on further up the rev range, im guessing thats because theres better air flow! Not sure on ITG, never heard one apart from vids. they are both a good product but personal preference! i know all these intakes sound better on manual!  :sad1:
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: danishmkvgti on July 10, 2011, 01:57:00 pm
I order a Forge Twintake, Blow Off Adaption Spacer and Vacuum Operated Valve yesterday, i hope that i will me satisfied with this :)
Since i have 320hp now and are planned to have about 350+ i order the Forge Valve since i have read that it is stronger then the stock and i like that blow off noise so order aswell a spacer for that ;)

Save your money on the Forge blow off spacer, you get the sound when you fit the Twintake anyway, also just buy the standard revision D diverter valve instead of the forge one as it does the same and don't require maintainance, so in all buy the Twintake and a standard diverter valve revision D
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: baldwined30 on July 10, 2011, 02:01:35 pm
Just checked my oem version C! Still in one piece! Guess the superchips map isn't good enough to blow it haha
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: robin_nerf on July 10, 2011, 04:46:06 pm
Save your money on the Forge blow off spacer, you get the sound when you fit the Twintake anyway, also just buy the standard revision D diverter valve instead of the forge one as it does the same and don't require maintainance, so in all buy the Twintake and a standard diverter valve revision D

What kind of maintenance does the Forge DV need ?
Forge, as i know them, make really good products for tuning car's or tuned car's.
Is the Standard Rev DV expensive or cheaper then the Forge ?
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: baldwined30 on July 10, 2011, 05:07:28 pm
cheaper, OEM is about £45 and the forge is about£110
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: robin_nerf on July 10, 2011, 05:47:44 pm
The standard revision D diverter valve you are talking about, is it this one : http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=13242&xSec=360

EDIT : I guess there is no difference between the OEM DV D and Forge DV in sound ?
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: danishmkvgti on July 10, 2011, 06:48:10 pm
The standard revision D diverter valve you are talking about, is it this one : http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=13242&xSec=360

EDIT : I guess there is no difference between the OEM DV D and Forge DV in sound ?

The sound is the same, and yes the awesome one is the rev. D DV. Forge DV needs to be dismantled and lubed app. every 6 month.
The sound you are after comes when you removed the original airbox and fit the Twintake, along with the pift from the DV and wastegate chatter you get a breathing sound from the intake in the fender  :happy2:
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: baldwined30 on July 10, 2011, 06:50:44 pm
some people say that the version D ends up being better that the forge one. Im not sure either way! Always find these forge ones end up sounding like a punto turbo! Just my opinion  :happy2:
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: robin_nerf on July 10, 2011, 07:20:11 pm
Really big thanks guys for saving me some money :D

But i'm a bit concerned if i get that Blow Off sound without the spacer ?
The sound that i want is this :
(1,40 in the clip)
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: baldwined30 on July 10, 2011, 07:28:39 pm
you really want it that loud??
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: robin_nerf on July 10, 2011, 07:43:14 pm
you really want it that loud??

Do you got any clip of how it would sound with no Blow Off installed ? Or do i get this sound but a bit quieter ?
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: Weston on July 10, 2011, 07:44:00 pm
I have a twintake & rev. d DV. A blow off sound isn't something I'd want to have. As for the noise I love it. Can't comment on the ITG but from the inside and outside it sounds great. Only realised how much of a suction noise it makes when my girlfriend drove past me in it the other day!
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: robin_nerf on July 11, 2011, 06:40:14 am
I read this in a thread :
Quote
Part numbers are
Piston type divertor valve (new style)
06H 145 710 D (06H145710D) approx USD$100.00

Diaphragm type divertor valve (old style)
06F 145 710 G (06F145710G) approx USD $75.00
06F 145 710 C (06F145710C) - predecessor  to the G model

The funny thing about it, is that i now even dont need to order a new DV since i got the "06H 145 710 D"  :happy2:
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: danishmkvgti on July 11, 2011, 09:24:39 am
More money left for other mods then  :happy2:    :wink:
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: robin_nerf on July 11, 2011, 10:53:24 am
More money left for other mods then  :happy2:    :wink:

That's right  :smiley:
Think it will be a Intercooler with stainless end's instead of my plastic ones installed today.
Upgraded fuel pump, downpipe, racecat, JE-Design wing and a remap will be done soner or later to  :happy2:
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: RedRobin on July 11, 2011, 11:00:21 am

Forge DV needs to be dismantled and lubed app. every 6 month.


....Eek! Really? I've never lubed mine.
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: danishmkvgti on July 11, 2011, 01:39:55 pm

Forge DV needs to be dismantled and lubed app. every 6 month.


....Eek! Really? I've never lubed mine.

yup, you need to maintain it for it to work properly, so you would be better off with the rev. D DV mister RR  :wink:
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: robin_nerf on July 17, 2011, 11:57:48 am
Hi guys !

I'm waiting for my Twintake to arrive :)
But i read a note on Forge website yesterday : "Contents of kits supplied may vary with different vehicle models. No heatshields are supplied with the Seat Leon or Audi S3"

Why is it like this, dosent the Leon need any heatshield ?
Maybe you have order/made a heatshield from elsewere ? (Or maybe wrap the pipe in bandage(heat film) to keep it colder ?)

Regards / Robin
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: danishmkvgti on July 17, 2011, 01:58:24 pm
It's better to wrap it in heat shield  :happy2:
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: robin_nerf on July 17, 2011, 06:06:37 pm
It's better to wrap it in heat shield  :happy2:

Do i wrap the whole pipe in some sort of film/tape then ?
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: danishmkvgti on July 17, 2011, 06:50:07 pm
Like this:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,679.msg12203.html#msg12203
Title: Re: ITG and Twintake (Noisy/Quiet) ?
Post by: robin_nerf on July 18, 2011, 12:06:21 pm
Looks great in gold !
But where can i find it, i checked at Ebay but all i could find was heat tape that you have to wrap and lock with cable ties.

EDIT : I think it will do better in Silver/Aluminium, will this work? : http://www.ecsautostores.com/cooltape.aspx