MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: geordie56 on July 20, 2011, 10:47:58 pm

Title: K04 or hybrid?
Post by: geordie56 on July 20, 2011, 10:47:58 pm
I may be considering the above, and want to know the benefits of both aswell as will my engine be to take the power ok being the 2.0 tsi not tfsi. Also would I need injectors or will mine be ok I know the fuel pump will be fine.
Title: Re: K04 or hybrid?
Post by: Janner_Sy on July 20, 2011, 10:54:27 pm
Jkm are running the k04 with apr on their tsi vRS Don't think revo do k04 tfsi software
Title: Re: K04 or hybrid?
Post by: bacillus on July 20, 2011, 11:04:51 pm
From what I've read, the tsi with a k04 conversion doesn't need different injectors.
Title: Re: K04 or hybrid?
Post by: vRS Carl on July 21, 2011, 08:00:18 am
The TSi has a lot beefier injectors and fuel pump than the TFSi.

Just be aware that a K04 is not a straight swap like it is on the TFSi. The Turbo needs to be machined quite extensively (it needs a DV amongst other things) to get it to fit and work so it could work out quite expensive at the moment.
Title: Re: K04 or hybrid?
Post by: Spin on July 21, 2011, 11:26:47 am
This is a useful thread as I have recently bought a mk6 GTI and have been having similar thoughts.

Title: Re: K04 or hybrid?
Post by: daz_pd on July 21, 2011, 09:51:06 pm
there are quite a few companies in the US with a K04 kit for the 2.0 TSI, the UK companies need to pull their fingers out, IIRC JKM's Octavia is running the APR TSI kit.
Title: Re: K04 or hybrid?
Post by: chungster on July 22, 2011, 10:48:21 pm

Just be aware that a K04 is not a straight swap like it is on the TFSi. The Turbo needs to be machined quite extensively (it needs a DV amongst other things) to get it to fit and work so it could work out quite expensive at the moment.

not when the APR kit is all done and the DV port machined into the turbo en masse in the states.

It's a cheaper kit too compared to the TFSI version.

340-360bhp available and it goes damn well i have to say.

Revo I gather are in R&D phase of the K04 upgrade. no idea when the SW will get released and even then as Carl says you'll have to find someone in the UK to modify the turbo housing.

Title: Re: K04 or hybrid?
Post by: vRS Carl on July 23, 2011, 02:52:01 pm

Just be aware that a K04 is not a straight swap like it is on the TFSi. The Turbo needs to be machined quite extensively (it needs a DV amongst other things) to get it to fit and work so it could work out quite expensive at the moment.

not when the APR kit is all done and the DV port machined into the turbo en masse in the states.

It's a cheaper kit too compared to the TFSI version.

340-360bhp available and it goes damn well i have to say.

Revo I gather are in R&D phase of the K04 upgrade. no idea when the SW will get released and even then as Carl says you'll have to find someone in the UK to modify the turbo housing.



Yep the APR is machined ready. However it's $2400 (Approx £1500) just for the turbo. Then your looking at Software required and a few other oil pipelines etc that are not included in the kit that you need. All in all you would be lucky to get change out of £3k fitted.

All info about it here

http://www.goapr.com/products/turbo_trans_20_tsi_k04.html
Title: Re: K04 or hybrid?
Post by: Janner_Sy on July 23, 2011, 03:32:25 pm
Shame, I was thinking of maybe getting a tsi in the next year and just bolting a normal k04 from an ed30 and having an easy 300hp with a stage 1(k04 tuned) map whilst still having the stock exhaust.  I thought that could have been done for less than £1k but its never that simple :sad1:
Title: Re: K04 or hybrid?
Post by: SteveP on July 23, 2011, 09:25:54 pm
Revo will have a kit very soon from what I here, there own Mk6 GTI is fitted with a K04 now and reports suggest it running very well.

I am not 100% sure the internals of the TSI block are fully up to the job but only time will tell.
Title: Re: K04 or hybrid?
Post by: vRS Carl on July 23, 2011, 09:43:01 pm
Probably not if Revo are doing the usual run everything at 11 out of 10 :grin:
Title: Re: K04 or hybrid?
Post by: daz_pd on July 27, 2011, 07:43:11 pm
the APR kit is complete with everything required and ready to fit, It seems the TSI engine is up to the task, lots of Americans running K04 with 330+ HP and no issues so far, may go down this route myself soon, seeing what prices JKM come up with!