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Title: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: heavyd on July 30, 2011, 10:15:55 am
Hello folks. I'm considering doing something to the suspension. I want to lower the car, but want to retain some comfort. I had kw v1s on my mk4, and it was very harsh.
I had considered eibach or H&r springs, but do they change ride quality too much? And for the work involved, is it worth buying dampers, or going for a coilover kit?
Thanks in advance for any advice :happy2:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: damoegan on July 30, 2011, 10:54:58 am
I'm running Koni FSD shocs with H&R springs, your more than welcome to have a ride out and see what you thinkof them, Dom  :happy2:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: fab5freddy on July 30, 2011, 11:46:28 am
H&R springs with blisten B8's

Ran the springs for 6 months before adding the dampers

Was fine with stock shocks but a definate improvment with the bilstens on (as you'd expect)

Only changed them as was advised the stock dampers would fail faster with lowering springs

But glad i did all the same :happy2:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: heavyd on July 30, 2011, 12:59:03 pm
Think I'll go with the H&r springs, what drop did you go for Damien? I'll price up some bilstein shocks, as I'm sure the fsds were pricey. What is the ride like with those on? Did you all buy new bearings aswell, or just use what was on?
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: fab5freddy on July 30, 2011, 02:38:26 pm
Ride is great

far better than stock IMO

Same bearings :happy2:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: PDT on July 30, 2011, 07:05:25 pm
The new B12 stuff is faptastic. The old B12 stuff was one of the best sub £1k kits available.

Remember to spec the springs by axle weight :wink:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: Greeners on July 30, 2011, 08:16:19 pm
Never had an issue with either Eibach springs on the Eddy or H&R on the .:R on standard springs. Much stiffer with less bodyroll but not compromising comfort.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: the bruce on July 30, 2011, 10:07:37 pm
lowering = loss of ride comfort

This is simple physics.  :wink:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: damoegan on July 30, 2011, 10:22:02 pm
Dom, my kit was fitted to the car just before I got itso cant compair it to standard.

After having coilovers on previous cars the current setup is great. As I already said, your more than welcome to have a ride out to see what you think.

Check out Damian@DPM for some good prices http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/golf-5-05-09-springs-shocks-c-1909_1945_2124.html

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: JASGTI on July 31, 2011, 05:23:19 pm
iv fitted apex 35mm springs thats it. looks just right and hasn't affected the ride comfort. :smiley:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: heavyd on August 04, 2011, 05:25:23 pm
I just went with the eiback sportlines with oem dampers.
Well impressed with the ride, same as stock, lowered to the right amount aswell, £135 delivered, bargain  :laugh:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb150%2Fheavyd123%2Fb6d61b8e.jpg&hash=bb751ec89ee245c7c9f10e07d7a41a3204f97289)
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: GarethB on August 04, 2011, 05:30:21 pm
I just went with the eiback sportlines with oem dampers.
Well impressed with the ride, same as stock, lowered to the right amount aswell, £135 delivered, bargain  :laugh:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb150%2Fheavyd123%2Fb6d61b8e.jpg&hash=bb751ec89ee245c7c9f10e07d7a41a3204f97289)

Considering these myself - any chance pics please?  :happy2:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: heavyd on August 04, 2011, 06:43:31 pm
I will do after it stopped raining and have washed the car :wink:, 27mm drop front and rear is what I measured from before and after
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: GarethB on August 04, 2011, 10:20:55 pm
Weird stuff with the post order / editing  :grin:

Ride height looks great - I'll have to get an order placed  :happy2:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: heavyd on August 04, 2011, 10:29:57 pm
motorsportworld was the cheapest I could find :happy2:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: baldwined30 on August 04, 2011, 11:11:47 pm
Are these easy to fit? anyone have a how to guide?
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: heavyd on August 05, 2011, 10:03:20 am
Rears take about 30mins, I got a garage to do the fronts, they had a nightmare trying to get the strut out, so I'm glad I didnt attempt it.
heres a guide off the net http://www.swankmonkey.com/vw/jetta/2006/suspension/
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: baldwined30 on August 05, 2011, 10:20:36 am
Notice much difference in ride? IE is it girlfriend approved!!
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: heavyd on August 05, 2011, 11:32:50 am
Same as stock. Thats why I didnt want to go down the coilover route, my last car was horrific on KWs. The eibach  pro kit is stiffer than the sportline kit, so make sure you get the right one if you want a comfy ride :happy2:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: baldwined30 on August 05, 2011, 11:43:01 am
So you think that H R springs are perfect to take a few MM off and still keep same ride?
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: heavyd on August 05, 2011, 11:49:42 am
No idea, I bought eibach sportlines!!!
you might get an extra 3mm with the H&R's, but I'm sure they're supposed to be stiffer, and cost an extra £85. I couldnt justify £85 for 3mm :popcornsoda:
When my dampers die anyway, I'll be getting some Koni FSD's or H&R B8's, these springs are matched to go with the B8's anyway in the B12 Kit, so youre money at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: baldwined30 on August 05, 2011, 11:55:39 am
Sorry didn't read t wrong. I had Eibachs on my MK4 and they were great! What site did you get them from?i
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: JoeDarKa on August 05, 2011, 12:41:57 pm
Any idea which go lower? The sportlines or the pro kit? They are 130 - 160 off awesome which i didnt think is too bad!
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: keano on August 05, 2011, 12:45:06 pm
Sportlines are lower

Very nice springs, although, not quite low enough for me now  :chicken:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5133%2F5462442007_2fd64152cc_z.jpg&hash=3a6e7b6cfabd45066fc6145ef7d8c9ecba53fb16)

Sportlines on ^^
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: JoeDarKa on August 05, 2011, 12:46:43 pm
Im sure the sportlines are cheaper too! Shame iv just had to shell out £400 on tyres  :sad1:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: heavyd on August 05, 2011, 01:45:06 pm
This was the cheapest place http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk

Dont think there is that much of different to yours Keano?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb150%2Fheavyd123%2FP1010472.jpg&hash=6af1558b39f364269715a1421974748458b53315)
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: keano on August 05, 2011, 01:47:01 pm
This was the cheapest place http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk

Dont think there is that much of different to yours Keano?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb150%2Fheavyd123%2FP1010472.jpg&hash=6af1558b39f364269715a1421974748458b53315)

The only difference being that yours looks way better than mine  :grin:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: heavyd on August 05, 2011, 02:06:46 pm
Nah, mines got too many doors :laugh:
Only white one I could find in the country with DSG when I was looking for one for 3 month so I had no choice :sad1:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: keano on August 05, 2011, 02:17:24 pm
Nah, mines got too many doors :laugh:
Only white one I could find in the country with DSG when I was looking for one for 3 month so I had no choice :sad1:

My wallet was the thing stopping me from getting white im afraid  :sad1:
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: JoeDarKa on August 05, 2011, 03:08:35 pm
Sportlines are lower

Very nice springs, although, not quite low enough for me now  :chicken:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5133%2F5462442007_2fd64152cc_z.jpg&hash=3a6e7b6cfabd45066fc6145ef7d8c9ecba53fb16)

Sportlines on ^^

I want!!!
Title: Re: Budget lowering with comfort?
Post by: baldwined30 on August 05, 2011, 08:51:45 pm
Yep! There's my next purchase!!!